Twilight (The Twilight Saga, #1) Twilight discussion


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"Well, at least it gets kids reading."

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Abeills Paul wrote: "Eirene wrote: "Paul wrote: ""Desperate housewife"? I seemed to have touched a nerve.

No, I don't believe any book should be banned, nor did hint at it. I do believe that some material is for adul..."


I didn't even specified your name and honestly I do know what Paul stands for. You like fiction, not metaphors and paradigms. Don't you see? (there's a huge difference, but that's ok)
Tell me the age when the kids which wouldn't be kids anymore are allowed to read it :)


message 102: by Otessa (new) - rated it 1 star

Otessa I'm a Twilight fan ... kind of. Despite enjoying the series, I think the series emphasizes the importance of having a boyfriend too heavily. Twilight may be a young adult book but perhaps it's better suited for adults who are less likely to be influenced by Meyer's most likely unintentional but problematic message.


message 103: by Rachel (new) - rated it 4 stars

Rachel John I got really tired of listening to the "anything that gets kids to read is wonderful" crap in college. I was an early reader and I read everything I could get my hands on as a kid. I learned fast that not everything is a good book. I think inappropriate books stick in your mind longer than movies because you are the one creating the image. There are still things I read that I truly regret 20 years later.

Don't try and cast me as a book burner or a religious nut. If you can't see a difference between Charlotte's Web and Fifty Shades of Gray then we shouldn't even bother having a discussion.


message 104: by [deleted user] (last edited Jun 03, 2013 11:22AM) (new)

Eirene wrote: "Paul wrote: "Eirene wrote: "Paul wrote: ""Desperate housewife"? I seemed to have touched a nerve.

No, I don't believe any book should be banned, nor did hint at it. I do believe that some materia..."


Well, you confused me. You were calling me a woman like it's an insult to be a woman, which is odd coming from a woman, so I wasn't sure if you were trying insult me or just didn't know the name.

I like fiction as well as metaphors and paradigms. Not sure where you got that I didn't. My problem, as I have stated, is with the message.

I would say 18 and up. If for no other reason, to see if they would believe it if it wasn't pounded into their heads from an early age.


message 105: by Olivia (new)

Olivia Everyone seems to have an issue with this book-especially about feminism in it. They say that the way the man is more powerful than the woman is bad. The thing is, Edward isn't even a man! He's a vampire, and if Bella were the vampire and Edward was the human, then she would be stronger than him. Anyway, I think that ok-this book's basic plot might be stupid-but it's actually really addictive and not full of bad messages-and this is a great book to give to a kid that doesn't like reading-it's also really long.


message 106: by Gerd (new) - rated it 4 stars

Gerd Dominique wrote: "Gerd wrote: "Julia wrote: "No matter what content a book consists of, it's just a book. People who get upset over books are just weak minded."

Dunno, I remember a protest about an eBook on Amazon(..."


Now, if only I knew what the good Adolf, and more over his suicide, has to do with that. :)


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Heidi Naiya wrote: "I think the ire is less about Edward being more "powerful", and more about how the two character's interact and how Bella is unable to function on her own about a week after she meets Edward. "

See, its things like this where I wonder if I read a different book entirely. A week after she met Edward he was ditching school. I don't remember anywhere in the first book where it said she wasn't able to function. The second book you'd have more legs to stand on, but the first book? Since when has crushing on someone been unable to function? Being raised Mormon myself I do recall having crushes at 16 and thinking about that person all the time. If women knew what men thought about, it would be... Did you see the last Game of Thrones?


message 108: by Gerd (new) - rated it 4 stars

Gerd Heidi wrote: "Naiya wrote: "If women knew what men thought about, it would be... Did you see the last Game of Thrones?"

God, I do hope you don't assume that we all think like George R.R. Martin... For I sure do hope so - yeah, I cling to a smitten of believe in (male) humankind, call me a fool. :)


Mochaspresso Heidi wrote: See, its things like this where I wonder if I read a different book entirely. A week after she met Edward he was ditching school. I don't remember anywhere in the first book where it said she wasn't able to function. The second book you'd have more legs to stand on, but the first book? Since when has crushing on someone been unable to function? Being raised Mormon myself I do recall having crushes at 16 and thinking about that person all the time. If women knew what men thought about, it would be... Did you see the last Game of Thrones?


I've noticed that people often tend to exaggerate the events of certain controversial novels to push an agenda or make a point in their criticism of it.


message 110: by Heidi (last edited Jun 07, 2013 01:20PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Heidi Mochaspresso wrote: "I've noticed that people often tend to exaggerate the events of certain controversial novels to push an agenda or make a point in their criticism of it. "

I guess I'm in the dark on this one. Is Twilight a controversial novel? Is Game of Thrones? I wasn't exaggerating. I guess it doesn't concern me if something is controversial or not. Making a point in criticism? Sure. If I were to make a claim that some fictitious character wasn't able to function in a particular book , and if someone called me on it and didn't agree with me - then I'd back it with facts. If questioning things and asking for facts is trying to push an agenda, then yes. I'm trying to push one. Agenda of truth anyone?


Mochaspresso Heidi wrote: "Mochaspresso wrote: "I've noticed that people often tend to exaggerate the events of certain controversial novels to push an agenda or make a point in their criticism of it. "

I guess I'm in the ..."


I wasn't referring to you when I spoke of exaggerating. I was speaking of the person that you were responding to. The person who said that Bella was unable to function.


message 112: by [deleted user] (new)

Twilight got me into reading books.


brooke1994 Don't get me wrong... I AM a fan of teen fiction, but as long as it's realistic. I was never a fan of the whole "vampire stalks girl, girl falls head over heels in love with vampire" thing. I lean more towards teen fiction where the teens actually grow and develop. Twilight has always been weird to me. I mainly like the teen genre when it's mixed in with Christian, but there are a few other teen books, movies and shows I go for.


message 114: by Khai (new) - rated it 4 stars

Khai It's because of Twilight why I became more into reading books.


message 115: by m (new) - rated it 3 stars

m I absolutely hated this book series! I remember being obsessed with it for quite a while and i loved the films but..don't get me wrong this is an absolute waste of space in my bookshelf. The 3rd book-Eclipse- was crap and so i had to stop reading it. As you can see i still have Eclipse on my 'currently reading' thing and i haven't had time to read it Again! I know this means i'm a failure on reading this series but i had to stop because it was a disgrace and i literally cannot look at it whenever i am in the bookshop!


message 116: by Naomi (new) - rated it 2 stars

Naomi I think it's only good in moderation. There are so many wonderful books that kids need to be introduced to good quality literature, and they need to be taught how to choose good books. I think if they are going to read fluffy books, it should be in moderation. But if you introduce kids to good literature, they probably aren't going to choose the fluffy stuff very often.


Dramapuppy Any kind of reading is better than nothing, but being better than nothing doesn't make the book "good."


Dramapuppy Olivia wrote: "Dramapuppy wrote: "Any kind of reading is better than nothing, but being better than nothing doesn't make the book "good.""

kind of true there. just a thought does that twi book, is really good fo..."


It has a lot to do with maturity level. I think I read the first Twilight in sixth grade. The first one isn't really that bad is definitely appropriate for anyone with enough patience to read it. The others, especially Breaking Dawn get a bit worse, though. I'm against restricting reading so it just depends on what the kid can handle. Also, it's not just kids who don't read. There are some adults too.


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