Add Edition: Falling Out of Cars

[Nicola]

Please add the epub edition details of Falling Out of Cars.

There is already an entry for the paperback 978-0385602969

Thanks



* Title: Falling Out of Cars
* Author(s) name(s): Jeff Noon
* ISBN (or ASIN) : 9781301881338 (ISBN)
* Publisher: Jeff Noon
* Publication date: February 13th 2013
* Format: epub
* Description:
IN A WORLD OVERFLOWING WITH IMAGES, HOW CAN YOU TELL WHO YOU REALLY ARE?
Marlene Moore wasn't even sure why she accepted the job, except that it gave her the chance to just get in her car and drive. To escape from grief, to keep moving, to maybe find a destination for herself. Now she's journeying around England, a land that turns stranger and more dreamlike the further she travels. Along the way she picks up various passengers, each as lost as she is, each on the run from troubles of their own.

Slowly, day by day, Marlene is falling prey to a sickness, a disease that seems to change the world around her. Only by recording her feelings in a notebook can she keep track of her life. But now even her notebook seems to be turning against her. And the job that started Marlene on this journey turns out to be far weirder, and more dangerous, than she ever imagined.

WHERE DO YOU COME FROM? AND WHERE ARE YOU GOING?
A Road novel for the twenty-first century, Falling Out of Cars explores a country, and a psyche, falling off the edge of reality.

Please include the link to purchase the book on Smashwords as it is only available there - http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/...
Link to the cover on a non-bookseller website -
http://www.metamorphiction.com/books/...

[Sarah]

Done. But I can't add a purchase link on the entry since it's not allowed here but there is a drop down list for online bookstores after the book info and Smashwords can be one of the choices (Smashwords is not included by default--the GR member should set it in his account options.) I apologize for not being able to help you in that regard.

[Nicola]

Thank you but would you mind explaining what a GR member is? Would selecting smashwords as a default option be something I could do?

[Sandra]

Nicola, if you are here, and you are, you are a member.

What Sarah is saying, is that every person sets the drop down list themselves. So you selecting Smashwords would have no effect on anyone else's choices. I personally have Smashwords already.

[Nicola]

okay thank you for explaining.

in another post on jeff noon's books, a librarian said it would be okay to add a link as a URL to smashwords as it provides exerpts of the book and that is the rule for adding them so is it possible to get the link to the smashwords book added in the same way that they have done here...

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15...

I'm sorry to be asking you all to do so much but we really appreciate it!

[Sandra]

That was me and I presume you mean Falling Out of Cars not Channel Skin? If so, done.

[Nicola]

Yes, sorry I was just trying to show how it had been done on a different Jeff Noon book in case someone else did it. But thank you!

[Sarah]

Hmmm...actually that's incorrect. Smashwords is not a publisher really- it's more of a distributor for self-publishing authors not unlike in Amazon with its Kindle books. The only URL you can place in the entry are the publisher's web page for the book and the author's book entry from his personal website. The purpose of the URL link here in GR is to provide the person looking at the entry an option to gain information about the book beyond the basic details entered here. (This is highly optional since not all books have "extras" available for perusing). I'm sorry if we cannot help with the Smashwords linkage as GR is more of a library-type site w/c main purpose is to provide book basic info and not where to buy the book.

[Nicola]

Okay... well then in that case can we add links to the book pages on Jeff's website? Is that alright to do? I can provide links for those?

[Sarah]

Oh yes...that we can do. I actually saw Jeff Noon's site and his web entries for his books could def. be linked here. But the thing is, the links should be added on EVERY entry of his books. It will take time to get the job done.

[Nicola]

okay that seems sensible. here are the links for his website and books and we completely appreciate that it may take time to get them all updated. but thank you anyway...

http://www.metamorphiction.com/books/...
http://www.metamorphiction.com/books/...
http://www.metamorphiction.com/books/...
http://www.metamorphiction.com/books/...
http://www.metamorphiction.com/books/...
http://www.metamorphiction.com/books/...
http://www.metamorphiction.com/books/...

[Sarah]

^I've added the author's link for all the editions of Vurt (link #1 above)

[Debbie's Spurts (D.A.)]

I thought Smashwords, Lulu, and other sites (despite having self-publishing or indie authors) were treated like publisher sites?

That data could be used; that they acted as other traditional print publishers in that they then took the authors books and distributed out to booksellers even if also direct selling on their own (like publisher) website?

(I have been blithely pulling ebook isbn, bookcovers, and descriptions from smashwords and similar sites completely against policy if not permissible. I have no clue how to even revoke all those months of invalid data adds because were likely a mix of poster provided, author website provided and smashwords provided data.)

If Smashwords is treated as a distributor, aren't we allowed to use distributor sites (I know recently some German and Spanish distributors were ruled as okay as were some distributors used by small university presses)?

[Paula]

Preferred links are to the books authors website, where these are available they should be used.

Publisher websites should only be used where they offer more than the ability to buy

Librarians Manual

"This field is for entering a URL officially associated with that book, such as a page on an author's site for the book. It may also be an author or publisher's website for the book, IF it contains additional information or resources. Fan sites, reviews, book sellers, Wiki pages or other such pages should NOT be listed."

[Debbie's Spurts (D.A.)]

Smashwords site about section says they are wotld's largest distributor of indie books and provide a service "...for any author or publisher, anywhere in the world, to publish and distribute ebooks to the major retailers."

I always thought providing publishing services = publisher; that distribution services could be any combination of businesses including publisher, distributor, vendor, wholesaler, brokerage, or one of the odder provider services as used by assorted library systems.

[Emy]

I believe Rivka stated that for books published AND sold by Smashword that they are an acceptable source. This seems logical as it is inline with the practices with regards to other publishing houses that also sell their own books.

[Debbie's Spurts (D.A.)]

I get " search unavailable" trying to search threads for that Rivka comment but that's what I thought, too. A sh*#%load of bookcover requests have smashwords links and are going to need revisited and covers revoked if smashwords is not an acceptable source.

I am absolutely certain that whether or not author is indie/self published has nothing to do with what is/isn't a publisher. (Data on createspace confuses me still and some distributor sites I have to question in group to tell if bookseller or publisher/distributor.)

[Debbie's Spurts (D.A.)]

Librarian manual at http://www.goodreads.com/help/show/26... still saying smashwords acceptable so unless someone can link to an official comment overriding until manual's next revision...I say Smashwords can be used as Publisher.

[Emy]

I think the same thread said CreateSpace is OK as it is specifically the publishing arm of the Amazon-ian entity. BUT, I'm sure Rivka will tell us categorically either way when she's able, and that the manual will be updated once it's definite. :)

[Sarah]

Now I'm confused. So Smashwords really is a publisher of ebooks therefore different from Amazon and B&N? What sets it apart from the two?

[Debbie's Spurts (D.A.)]

Smashwords like other publishers distributes its authors' books to booksellers like Barnes and Noble and amazon. Just like Random House, Harper, etc. who distribute to booksellers but also sell the books directly on their sites. Plus, at the risk of being snarky, that's what the manual and a ton of followup posts have already repeatedly said.

Librarian Manual wording, in case link is failing (emphasis mine):

"List of acceptable sources for book covers and other book data*:
Author Websites
Publisher Websites (such as Random House and Smashwords)

National Libra...

*Sites that are not acceptable to use:

Amazon
Barnes & Noble
Library Thing
Shelfari
Baker & Taylor
Google Books
Alibris
Abebooks
Powells
Indiebound
all other (non-publisher) bookseller sites"

[Sarah]

Ok got ya

[Emy]

Difference with Amazon in short is their policies on using their information - if you use Amazon as a source they in return expect you to only link out to them. This is directly contrary to GR's mission so we can't use them.

[Debbie's Spurts (D.A.)]

Plus publisher sites are permitted data sources via U.S. intellectual property rulings on "fair use"; bookseller sites are not and explicit permissions to re-use their data is required. (U.K. Has similar wording.)

And before amazon made that condition about being only bookseller on gr, some goodreads data was obtained perfectly legally under an existing, negotiated data feed from amazon — amazon still insisted goodreads remove existing and not just future data. Ex post facto, anyone? Unpleasant.

Lots of "unknown author" and "unknown book" data problems still not fixed in the aftermath of pulling amazon data.

Some different bookseller sites, some different rules. But no bookseller data unless/until it's something goodreads staff says this site was legally given permission to use.

[Sandra]

Sarah wrote: "Hmmm...actually that's incorrect. Smashwords is not a publisher really- it's more of a distributor for self-publishing authors not unlike in Amazon with its Kindle books. The only URL you can place..."


Smashwords HAS been determined to be a Publisher and Rivka has said so previously.

And they provide sample excerpts of books, which is why it is OK to link to them.

[Debbie's Spurts (D.A.)]

Of course, first preference for official url link is a dedicated book page on an author's personal website/blog (or an official book/series site actually set up by author/publisher versus set up by fans) — even if author's book page links out to or contains stuff not permitted on goodreads.

In lieu of author website/blog with book and author info, most publisher sites do a good job of creating author and book pages whether or not excerpts can be downloaded. (In some cases more robust websites than the author creates...smashwords has author profile pages similar to goodreads and that-bookseller-we-don't-like-crediting—okay, similar is an understatement as most author bio matches exactly ☺ )

Providing excerpts I don't think is a policy consideration.

[Debbie's Spurts (D.A.)]

So, now that the big debate has gone on for so long ... Any of the original posters still have book issues they need addressed? Smashword links needing to be added?

(Sorry, got off track while on soapbox and freaking out thinking about all the smashwords stuff I had been doing...)