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message 1: by Booknut, Head Moderator (last edited Feb 15, 2013 08:04PM) (new)

Booknut 101 (booknut101) | 515 comments Mod
This is a place to discuss the lesser characters that pop up during the books - such as:
- Hollin, Dorian's ten year-old brother
- Kaltain, the spiteful lady with her sights firmly on Dorian
- Queen Georgina Havilliard
- Duke Perrington

And...not to mention one character who I certainly hope will make an appearance:
- Terrin, Lord of Anielle

For those who don't know, or have forgotten, the title of 'Lord of Anielle' was actually meant to be Chaol's. But, when he became Captain of the Guard, he gave his title to his brother, Terrin. I'd love to see what Chaol is like in an awkward-sibling situation, as well as the personality of his brother compared to him :)

Your thoughts and discussions on the minor characters (those listed/not listed) below!


message 2: by Sydney she.her (last edited Feb 15, 2013 11:06PM) (new)

Sydney she.her (bewberry) One lesser character I love is Philippa. Her remarks always have me laughing, especially when she over acts when pushing Celaena out the door to got to the ball and when Celaena eats all that candy and Philippa says "You look like a demon. Just don't open your mouth and no one will notice." I hope she appears more because she seems like a genuine woman.

Now that you mention it Booknut, I also hope Terrin makes an appearance. I wonder how long it's been since they've seen each other? Would their brotherhood be so glorious you wish you had their relationship or would they be distant and awkward because of the knowing title exchange? Would Terrin treat Chaol as someone below him for giving up being 'Lord' for 'Captain of the Guard'?
I feel like further introduction of Terrin would be either quite humorous or scandalous!

And as heartless as it sounds, I feel no sympathy for what happened to Kaltain. Karma, man, what goes around comes around.


message 3: by Booknut, Head Moderator (new)

Booknut 101 (booknut101) | 515 comments Mod
Sydney wrote: "One lesser character I love is Philippa. Her remarks always have me laughing, especially when she over acts when pushing Celaena out the door to got to the ball and when Celaena eats all that candy..."

Karma indeed - Kaltain was a nasty piece of work :)

And I think it would be even funnier if Terrin was only slightly younger than Chaol. I mean, guys aren't blind to Celaena...and Chaol might get super protective...it would be humorous!!

And Philippa is such a lovely woman. She's like the mother Celaena never had.


message 4: by talltyrion (new)

talltyrion | 188 comments Oh, jeez, that would be hilarious... Unless, of course, Celaena actually likes the wrong Westfall. Hell no.


message 5: by Booknut, Head Moderator (new)

Booknut 101 (booknut101) | 515 comments Mod
WordlesslyAmazed03 wrote: "Oh, jeez, that would be hilarious... Unless, of course, Celaena actually likes the wrong Westfall. Hell no."

Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell noooooooooooooooooo :)


message 6: by talltyrion (new)

talltyrion | 188 comments :)


message 7: by Sydney she.her (new)

Sydney she.her (bewberry) WordlesslyAmazed03 wrote: "Oh, jeez, that would be hilarious... Unless, of course, Celaena actually likes the wrong Westfall. Hell no."




message 8: by talltyrion (new)

talltyrion | 188 comments Glad to see we're all so open-minded and accepting of others and not at all a fiercely protective bunch of crazy shippers. :)


message 9: by Booknut, Head Moderator (new)

Booknut 101 (booknut101) | 515 comments Mod
WordlesslyAmazed03 wrote: "Glad to see we're all so open-minded and accepting of others and not at all a fiercely protective bunch of crazy shippers. :)"

Indeed *nods sternly*


message 10: by talltyrion (new)

talltyrion | 188 comments Yup. We're a great bunch of people. We should be famous.


message 11: by talltyrion (new)

talltyrion | 188 comments I am!! :)


message 12: by Melissa (new)

Melissa Nice xD


message 13: by talltyrion (new)

talltyrion | 188 comments I am! I go crazy for various ships and their various perils 92% of the time!


message 14: by Sydney she.her (new)

Sydney she.her (bewberry) H99 wrote: "WordlesslyAmazed03 wrote: "Glad to see we're all so open-minded and accepting of others and not at all a fiercely protective bunch of crazy shippers. :)"

We're not crazy shippers. At least, I know..."


Well, when it comes to ToG... I am indeed a crazy shipper, haha. ;)


message 15: by Sydney she.her (new)

Sydney she.her (bewberry) H99 wrote: "I'll make this more clear... We ARE shippers. We're just not crazy shippers."

Ah, haha, got it.
"Crazy Shipper" as in one who sails so fiercely on a certain ship, to the point of outright hatred and/or violence for any other possible ship...the scary ones. ;)


message 16: by talltyrion (new)

talltyrion | 188 comments I know it. I'm fully aware that I'm a crazy shipper, and I'm proud of it!


message 17: by [deleted user] (new)

I would say in thing and one thing only to Kaltain Karma is a bitch, like you.


message 18: by talltyrion (new)

talltyrion | 188 comments Niiice!


message 19: by [deleted user] (new)

WordlesslyAmazed03 wrote: "I know it. I'm fully aware that I'm a crazy shipper, and I'm proud of it!"

Me Too!!!!!!


message 20: by Katherine (new)

Katherine (katebelikov) | 30 comments Okay now I have a question:

Now we all know Nox, the handsome competitor in the book that became friends with Celaena.

I'm wondering in the prequels: was he seen or mentioned.

I thought he could of been the masked man at the ball in The Assassin and the Underworld (where She first meets Doneavl) but then he says that he has never left Terrasen (other than for the competition)

Also, how awesome would it be if he had a spin off series!?


message 21: by [deleted user] (last edited Aug 06, 2013 09:44PM) (new)

My favorite lesser character was Philippa she was hilarious with all her smart remarks. She just totally blends and fits in with the book and the characters personality.

Now speaking of Terrin. What a dramatic twist it would be if she did fall for the wrong Westfall!


message 22: by Sydney she.her (last edited Aug 24, 2013 07:34PM) (new)

Sydney she.her (bewberry) Kate wrote: "Okay now I have a question:
Now we all know Nox, the handsome competitor in the book that became friends with Celaena.
I'm wondering in the prequels: was he seen or mentioned.
I thought he cou..."


When I read The Assassin and the Underworld, I totally got vibes that it was Dorain and Chaol at the ball.

And, I love Nox. (There was a part of me that was secretly hoping him and Celaena would get together) A spin off series would be awesome!


message 23: by Katherine (new)

Katherine (katebelikov) | 30 comments Really? Wow I hadn't even considered that! I'm gonna have to go and suss that out!


message 24: by Nancy (new)

Nancy | 21 comments Sydney wrote: "Kate wrote: "Okay now I have a question:
Now we all know Nox, the handsome competitor in the book that became friends with Celaena.
I'm wondering in the prequels: was he seen or mentioned.
I thou..."


Maybe its just me, but if it was Dorain and Chaol at the ball, i'm hoping there's a reference of it somewhere as the series progresses??!!


message 25: by Sydney she.her (new)

Sydney she.her (bewberry) Nancy wrote: "Sydney wrote: "Kate wrote: "Okay now I have a question:
Now we all know Nox, the handsome competitor in the book that became friends with Celaena.
I'm wondering in the prequels: was he seen or me..."


I was hoping it was going to be referenced at the ball in Throne of Glass, like they would have a sense of deja vu, but I don't think it happened.
I really hope it is referenced somewhere in the series's future!


message 26: by Allie (last edited Aug 25, 2013 03:16PM) (new)

Allie | 31 comments Sydney wrote: "Nancy wrote: "Sydney wrote: "Kate wrote: "Okay now I have a question:
Now we all know Nox, the handsome competitor in the book that became friends with Celaena.
I'm wondering in the prequels: was..."


Wasn't it referenced in the extra scene for the Throne of Glass paperback book? Dorian and Chaol are talking about the last time Dorian left the castle was to go to a party over a year before, where they didn't realize until much later, that there were assassins and dangerous people there. They mention that no one recognized them because they were wearing masks.


message 27: by Katherine (new)

Katherine (katebelikov) | 30 comments Oh wow I really should have payed more attention


message 28: by Katherine (new)

Katherine (katebelikov) | 30 comments Also what about Nox's trainer dude, the drunk? He was very elusive and you never saw his face makes me curious...


message 29: by Sydney she.her (new)

Sydney she.her (bewberry) Allie wrote: "Sydney wrote: "Nancy wrote: "Sydney wrote: "Kate wrote: "Okay now I have a question:
Now we all know Nox, the handsome competitor in the book that became friends with Celaena.
I'm wondering in th..."



Omg, how have I never heard of this?! Is there somewhere online I can read it?


message 30: by Allie (last edited Aug 25, 2013 06:16PM) (new)

Allie | 31 comments Sydney wrote: "Allie wrote: "Sydney wrote: "Nancy wrote: "Sydney wrote: "Kate wrote: "Okay now I have a question:
Now we all know Nox, the handsome competitor in the book that became friends with Celaena.
I'm w..."


If you go to amazon.com and use the look inside feature on Throne of Glass, it will give part of that scene. There are two different parts it can give and if you do it twice you'll get the whole thing. I had to sort of read it in parts because it would cut it off, but I eventually got the whole scene read. Its called The Captain and the Prince and its the second to last thing available in the preview. The sneak peak at a scene from Crown of Midnight is the last thing, I believe.


message 31: by Sydney she.her (new)

Sydney she.her (bewberry) Allie wrote: "Sydney wrote: "Allie wrote: "Sydney wrote: "Nancy wrote: "Sydney wrote: "Kate wrote: "Okay now I have a question:
Now we all know Nox, the handsome competitor in the book that became friends with ..."


Oh my gosh, thank you!



message 32: by Michelle (new)

Michelle (misah) | 14 comments Sydney wrote: "Allie wrote: "Sydney wrote: "Allie wrote: "Sydney wrote: "Nancy wrote: "Sydney wrote: "Kate wrote: "Okay now I have a question:
Now we all know Nox, the handsome competitor in the book that became..."


Yeah, Thanx so much! I've read all the additional stuff, but totally missed this scene. And its so great :-)


message 33: by Michelle (new)

Michelle (misah) | 14 comments Hey, does anyone know who Eilidh Lochan is? I totally missed it and Sarah pinned her very often on pinterest. ?!


message 34: by Sydney she.her (new)

Sydney she.her (bewberry) Misah wrote: "Hey, does anyone know who Eilidh Lochan is? I totally missed it and Sarah pinned her very often on pinterest. ?!"

I think she is a character in the upcoming books, probably book 3 or 4. (unless she is in CoM; haven't read it yet.)


message 35: by Michelle (new)

Michelle (misah) | 14 comments No, she's not in CoM (and I searched the E-Book :-)). Yeah, she's likely from an upcoming Book. Thanks!


message 36: by Sydney she.her (new)

Sydney she.her (bewberry) Kate wrote: "Okay now I have a question:
Now we all know Nox, the handsome competitor in the book that became friends with Celaena.
I'm wondering in the prequels: was he seen or mentioned.
I thought he cou..."


So I was reading Ask Sarah J. Maas and speaking of Nox... :D

Jessica:"I'm looking forward to seeing were Celaena, Dorian and Chaol story goes and especially meeting new characters *cough* Aedion, Eilidh, Rowan, Asterin & Manon*cough* and being reunited with previous characters *cough* Ansel, Arobynn, maybe even Nox??*cough* "

Sarah: Man, I would LOVE for Nox to make an appearance again. I'm trying to find ways to bring him back into the story, but maybe he'll just get his own spinoff novella or something.



message 37: by talltyrion (new)

talltyrion | 188 comments ANSEL'S COMING HOME, BABY!! WAHOO!!!!


message 38: by talltyrion (new)

talltyrion | 188 comments Oh, did you mean EVERY FANDOM I'VE EVER BEEN IN? Unfortunately, this is well-explored territory for me.


message 39: by Izzy (new)

Izzy (izzybookholics) | 113 comments Do you guys look at her Pinterest? I was wondering, for those who've read CoM: (view spoiler)


message 40: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie  (sinmotion) | 234 comments Izabella (shadowraith) wrote: "Do you guys look at her Pinterest? I was wondering, for those who've read CoM: [spoilers removed]"

I don't think so. It's wouldn't make much sense. He is on a whole other continent with a whole other list of priorities.

I'm assuming he's someone much more significant to Ardalan...ugh, I can never spell this country correctly God!


message 41: by Izzy (new)

Izzy (izzybookholics) | 113 comments @Bex: yep, it's pretty cool!! You should check it out sometime :)

Stephanie wrote: "Izabella (shadowraith) wrote: "Do you guys look at her Pinterest? I was wondering, for those who've read CoM: [spoilers removed]"

I don't think so. It's wouldn't make much sense. He is on a whole ..."


Oh....well, I guess we'll just have to wait and see!!


message 42: by Nancy (new)

Nancy | 21 comments What if Terrin and Hollin became friends?


message 43: by Izzy (new)

Izzy (izzybookholics) | 113 comments Hmm, if Hollin can actually BE a friend to someone!!!


message 44: by Katherine (new)

Katherine (katebelikov) | 30 comments Can someone tell me who Manon and Asterion Blackbeak are? I'm on Sarah's Pintrest and I'm so freakin confused.


message 45: by [deleted user] (new)

Manon and Asterin Blackbeak are cousins. They'll be making their first appearance in Book 3.


message 46: by Izzy (new)

Izzy (izzybookholics) | 113 comments Kate wrote: "Can someone tell me who Manon and Asterion Blackbeak are? I'm on Sarah's Pintrest and I'm so freakin confused."

Yonehara wrote: "Manon and Asterin Blackbeak are cousins. They'll be making their first appearance in Book 3."

And, if I remember correctly, the Blackbeaks were one of the 3 witch clans in the Ironteeth Alliance!!!


message 47: by Izzy (new)

Izzy (izzybookholics) | 113 comments Unfortunately not :( But it was mentioned just once in CoM, and I have practically memorised the whole book!!!! ;)


message 48: by Rachel , Co-Moderator (new)

Rachel  (APCB Reviews) (gr8rach) | 185 comments Mod
I really hope that we get to meet Terrin! I wonder what he's like...


message 49: by beth (new)

beth (beth01) | 8 comments For some reason, I love Kaltain as a character. I honestly don't know why. But if you think about it, that might not have been her talking at all...

I also like Phillipa, and I really want to have Terrin in it, cause that would be so awesome!


message 50: by Yvonne (new)

Yvonne | 17 comments I really liked Archer.

And Nox.

They're both amazing in my opinion.


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