Latest Crackpot (tm) Theory

[Amber, Master Sympathist]

Actually Gumdaar, I like what you had to say, and so I will give you a little way out of your problem with the thrice locked chest.

We honestly do not know if that IS Kvothe/Kote's chest. It could literally belong to anyone , he doesn't seem to know how to open it. Thats a pretty good sign, in my opinion, that its not really his to be opening. EH?

If I had a safe in my bedroom I couldn't open...what you would think? You'd think I freakin' stole it like any other normal human would assume. Especially if I was hiding out so no one could find me......

Hmm, the more I think about it the more obvious that seems to me...why did I never think of this before?

[Amber, Master Sympathist]

Okay,

Nevermind, apperantly Bast says that Kvothe made it and it kinda suggests that Kote actually has the keys....

Did I get that right? Chapter Seventy One NOTW.

[Rothgar]

Here's my short theories on what's going to happen. Denna is working for, in a round about way, the Chandrian. At some point, Kvothe is going to come into a confrontation with Haliax/Lanre and Denna will be there. Now we know that the Amyr were/are pretty much powerful vigilantes bent on stopping the Chandrian and anything/anyone in cohorts with them. So in the confrontation that Kvothe has with Haliax, I think that Kvothe tricks/forces Haliax to give up his hold on Denna but then an/the Amyr swoops in to kill Haliax, who bolts out of there, and the Amyr in anger turns on the Chandrian cohort, Denna, and tries to kill her. Which, of course, Kvothe will not have. So Kvothe in ends up killing the Amyr(Angel) but loses Denna (either in her death or her running in fear of Kvothe or something along those lines) in the process. I don't remember when in the book, but I believe it's the Chronicler who has the thought, "It's hard to believe that this is the face of one who kills an angel" or something along that line. Then Kvothe in his grief of losing her, loses all his ability to focus, for all he can think about is his grief in losing her and without focus, he can't enter into any of the state of minds he uses to obtain his power/magic. So, I like the idea that he was specific in changing his name to Kote as a way to lock his power/mind away for the only this that the persona of Kvothe brought to him was pain and misery.
Any thoughts to all this?

[Amber, Master Sympathist]

I will offer you some thoughts gladly. LOL!

The one thing I noticed in your theory that I thought might be a bit off, or maybe you were confused about was the Amyr/Angel thing. Now this happens a ton, so I'm not calling you out or anything, it even happend to me before I got into this forum.
Angels are not Amyr. Amyr and Angel's are distinctly different groups. See, the Angel's were founded by Aleph at the same time that Selito's founded the Amyr.

Aleph wanted Selitos to join him and be an angel, but when Selitos found out that he would not be able to enact retribution for what had happened to Myr Tarinial he declined and instead formed the Amyr. At this same time Aleph still went ahead with his idea to create angels, the most discussed among these being Tehlu. Angels are different than amyr, they cannot judge a being by any acts commited before the moment they were created, but they are to judge and reward or punish every being from that point forward, kinda like a Karmic Force in a way. They are invisible except to those of great power, and apperantly they have all kinds of creepy wings, stone, blood, fire....something like that.

Amyr however, are just a group, basically based around vengeance. It was originally made of Ruach, which are apperantly not mortals. (The Angels were also made of Ruach) Except, they aren't given any special powers to punish or reward people. They're basically just a sect whose primary mission was to punish the Chandrian for what happend to Myr Tarinial and the other cities, eventually the ideals spread out and they became a form of law before eventually moving into secrecy or being obliterated because of there sometimes extreme tactics and apperantly the growth and power of the Tehlin Church.

I hope that makes some sense and clears the murk a little. I think the writing in that part is bit convoluted so it doesn't really make sense until you read it approximately 1 billion times. LOL!

I have always taken the idea the Kvothe killed an angel to mean one of two things. He either kills a literal angel, one of the ones created by Aleph, or he kills someone very innocent, or at least believed to be very innocent. I always took the latter to be more likely because if he killed a literal angel...well...no one would see it, except maybe him and Elodin. LOL!

[Rhy]

Noah wrote: "Who is in charge of taking away the things you swear away?"

Not infrequently, the Fae.

If Rothfuss will utilize that we have no way to know.

[Scans]

I like the idea that Kvothe may have killed someone who is considered an angel, as opposed to being an actual angel. We know from the narrative that stories tend to get out of hand and quickly become a bit inaccurate. So, he could have killed someone like a Sim or Auri (I hope not), who are extremely kind and unselfish (angels). Then as the story spreads it eventually becomes inaccurate and people think he killed a literal angel.

[Amber, Master Sympathist]

@Scans - Yes, I have always felt this to be the more believable of events as I said above, literal Angels are invisible so it wouldn't make sense for it to be well known enough for Chronicler to reference it in regards to Kote.

At least that is my opinion.

I have worried a bit that he might kill Auri or Sim myself. For a while there I was almost certain that Sim became the King of Atur and Kvothe killed him or was at least framed for killing him. But Thistlepong has made me feel better with her Roderick Calanthis Theory. LOL.
I really don't want either of those characters to die because they are both wonderful and personal favorites.

[Ashley]

I wouldnt be surprised if increasing civil unrest and rise of Tehlinism caught some of our beloved charas and led to their graves. Like Sim. With his family's history with Gibea and his own moral stances...well if he was offered the option of turning a blind eye to horrors being commited or fighting them and dying? The latter me thinks.

Also re your Singer(/angel) convo:

It is worth considering the Mender heresies. If Tehlu did once regain (?)a mortal body and die this sets precedance for K's supposed killing of an angel... that someone other that Elodin/Magwin could see :)

[Amber, Master Sympathist]

You know I never really considered that, that opens up a third option really.

If we had an angel who took mortal form and Kvothe killed him, that could present an interesting twist to the story. Plus, I kinda like that it balances against Tehlu's overall success at destroying Encanis.

hmmmmmm....