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Brian O'Sullivan | 280 comments Dia dhaoibh a chairde (Hi everyone)
Back to Goodreads after several months absence. I've just started a list at Listopia that I'm hoping to populate with Irish writers of Mythology/Folklore (old or new). I'm particularly keen to avoid the plastic paddy/fairy/leprechaun crap that so many non-Irish writers put up in the lists. In any case, any suggestions you might have would be very appreciated.

Maith agaibh!

Brian


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Alan | 0 comments Hi Brian, any link to your list? I certainly wouldn't mind getting on there!


message 3: by Seraphina (new)

Seraphina How about lady gregorys complete mythology


message 4: by Brian (new)

Brian O'Sullivan | 280 comments Alan wrote: "Hi Brian, any link to your list? I certainly wouldn't mind getting on there!"


Alan wrote: "Hi Brian, any link to your list? I certainly wouldn't mind getting on there!"

Hiya Alan
Doh! that was a bit dumb not including the link. Here you go.
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/8...


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Brian O'Sullivan | 280 comments Seraphina wrote: "How about lady gregorys complete mythology"

Hi Seraphina! Been a while!
Sounds like a good idea. I think she 'sterilised' the stories for the audience at the time but she certainly deserves ot be there. Thanks for the suggestion.


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Alan | 0 comments Hagwitch, by Marie-Louise Fitzpatrick is a modern story interweaving elements of the children of lir. Might be one to consider too!


message 7: by Billy (new)

Billy O'Callaghan Morgan llywelyn wrote several novels based on the Irish myths and legends. Worth checking out.


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Brian O'Sullivan | 280 comments Alan wrote: "Hagwitch, by Marie-Louise Fitzpatrick is a modern story interweaving elements of the children of lir. Might be one to consider too!"

Thanks Alan. Hadn't heard of her before.


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Brian O'Sullivan | 280 comments Billy wrote: "Morgan llywelyn wrote several novels based on the Irish myths and legends. Worth checking out."

Cheers Billy. I have read a few of these and, in fairness, they're not bad. I think someone suggested her before but I didn't put her in in the end as she wasn't an Irish author. The weird thing about Irish mythology is that there seems to be very few actual Irish authors who've written in this field. I'm not sure why.


message 10: by Billy (new)

Billy O'Callaghan That's a bit curious, all right, Brian.
Maybe you'll find more poets addressing these subjects. One that comes to mind is Leanne O'Sullivan's 'Cailleach: The Hag of Beara'. I'll probably think of lots more when I can put my mind to it.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6...


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Brian O'Sullivan | 280 comments Billy wrote: "That's a bit curious, all right, Brian.
Maybe you'll find more poets addressing these subjects. One that comes to mind is Leanne O'Sullivan's 'Cailleach: The Hag of Beara'. I'll probably think of l..."


God, of course! Leanne is great. Great suggestion. Thanks Billy.


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Brian O'Sullivan | 280 comments To all of those Irish authors in the group please note a new Celtic Mythology Short Story Competition if you're interested. The details are at: http://irishimbasbooks.com/irish-imba...


message 13: by J.S. (last edited Oct 20, 2015 05:42PM) (new)

J.S. Dunn (httpwwwjsdunnbookscom) | 335 comments I'm here (wandering threads in this GR group) rather infrequently due to intensively researching areas that link with Gaelic-language mythology, like: archaeogenetics of the Isles, archeaoastronomy, archaeology and prehistory studies/anthropology.

Various individuals in academia have been gracious enough to correspond and even to read parts, chapters, and entire manuscripts, not to name names but as follows eg,

John Waddell who just published a nonfiction re: Irish Mythology. To wit, Archaeology and Celtic Myth An Exploration by John Waddell .

Another help has been Prof. Wm O'Brien head of Archaeology at UCC-Cork , who found the Isles' first copper mines in county Kerry (Lough Lein/Ross Lake) and whose quote is to be found on the cover of my first novel. That one took around a dozen years to research and write.

Btw, I've just spent three years analyzing the prehistoric bits embedded in The Destruction Of Derg's Hostel. Toghal Bruidne da Derga.... See: http://www.ucc.ie/celt/published/T301.... Note that Fordham University did a good translation --- though that institution is offshore in the USA from the Emerald Isle and thus apparently might be eminently, if not fatally, suspect as 'nonOirish' .

I also deplore leprechaun/paddywhackery but believe me, lad, that dreck is not confined to the 'nonirish' authors of the world whatever the hell that term means. We're such RABBITS, the Irish, that most of the planet's genetic pool now has a drop or two including a certain US President. Well, the man thinks he's the President.

For a sample of the result of blood sweat and tears trying to get rid of the medieval gloss laid on thick by those starving ( : starving as to food, sex, and decent booze) monks when they bothered to write down their own culture's tales, see: CONNERY THE GREAT, a short story episode that boldly includes the gig with the white horse at the feis Teamhair --- and not a f*&'n lupruchain in sight--- at:
Connery The Great by J.S. Dunn

Tongue firmly in cheek, Sincerely yours, American by birth, jsd


message 14: by J.S. (last edited Oct 20, 2015 05:44PM) (new)

J.S. Dunn (httpwwwjsdunnbookscom) | 335 comments PS: many of the 'middle' cycle, the Fenian cycle, have been admirably retold by Randy Eickhoff. Yup. He's. Yet. Another nonoirish, bless his Yank origins. And now he's a Texan for all that. Randy Lee Eickhoff His translation of Ireland’s national myth, Tain Bo Culainge (Cattle-raid of Cooley) is still being used as a textbook in schools in Ireland and several universities. His translation and dense annotation of Homer’s Odyssey is also being used in schools.

Anybody else want to take a cheap shot at nonirish ?


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J.S. Dunn (httpwwwjsdunnbookscom) | 335 comments Brian wrote: "To all of those Irish authors in the group please note a new Celtic Mythology Short Story Competition if you're interested. The details are at: http://irishimbasbooks.com/irish-imba......"

Thanks. Ever so. Much,


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Brian O'Sullivan | 280 comments J.S. wrote: "Brian wrote: "To all of those Irish authors in the group please note a new Celtic Mythology Short Story Competition if you're interested. The details are at: http://irishimbasbooks.com/irish-imbas-..."

Aaaah! You're. Welcome! :)

Apologies, J.S. That "Irish authors" was written here when I very tired and the term's way too restrictive. Didn't know how to edit it when I did see it again weeks later so I didn't. The actual competition is open to everyone.


message 17: by J.S. (last edited Oct 20, 2015 05:58PM) (new)

J.S. Dunn (httpwwwjsdunnbookscom) | 335 comments ....A horse that ate my Irish grass in my Irish paddocks when I had an old stone house there, placed in the Irish Grand National.

Am I Oirish yet? ;)


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Brian O'Sullivan | 280 comments J.S. wrote: "....A horse that ate my Irish grass in my Irish paddocks when I had an old stone house there, placed in the Irish Grand National.

Am I Oirish yet? ;)"


Just pigged out on a bowl of French fries J.S. so I'm not even going there! :)


message 19: by J.S. (last edited Oct 22, 2015 10:49AM) (new)

J.S. Dunn (httpwwwjsdunnbookscom) | 335 comments ...FREEDOM fries, according to some. & I certainly didn't eat the famed horse. Or any others, not knowingly anyway...


But we digress, in fine oirish fashion.

Carry on!


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