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Why Jon Snow is not really dead and Sansa is alive
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Jun 21, 2015 07:10PM
I have a feeling some of those omitted storylines will be the focus of season 6. A Feast for Crows and A Dance With Dragons are concurrent, meaning that although they are separate books with Crows published before Dragons, they focus on a different cast of characters. Given the show's much maligned 'omission' of certain plotlines, devoting a season to different characters might be one way to go unless D&D are giving us a trimmed fan fiction version of Martin's sprawling epic.
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At this point I am kind of hoping that Sansa did die. Her chances of escaping Ramsey are not good, and considering what he will have in store for her death might be the only merciful alternative. I'm just going to take a wait and see attitude with season 6......if I like what people are saying about it, I might watch, but I can't sit through another season of constant abuse with very few rewards.
I think that is the current thought this season and I hope Dan n Dave are listening or perhaps having made their money they no longer care.I am sick to death of watching the bloody Boltons win especially that sicko Ramsay...The sheer brutality of this season had me reeling mainly because most of it didn't make sense.
Melisandre kills Mance Rayder even though he is 'The King Beyond the Wall' and we ALL know what stock she puts in Kings blood....and yet, in the TV version she lit the flames under Mance. Where is the sense in that? It would have made MORE sense if before leaving for Winterfell Melisandre had sacrificed Mance so the war would go favourably for Stannis....Did she do this? No!
Instead Stannis decides to burn his own daughter alive. This is a totally nonsensical......Ah dear...how could they totally mess up the battle for Winterfell? I dunno but they did!
In season 6 I think Sansa and Theon may just escape BUT for some reason Dan n Dave seem to like this psychopath and so he gets MAJOR screen time....So if they continue with the Ramsay Show he'll need someone to torture, some new 'toy'....Enter Brienne and Pod.
We know that in the books Biter(or Rorge) attack Brienne and make a mess of her face....Enter Ramsay and his dogs...Yes, I do think this will play out....What do the audience gain? Nothing!
The show is becoming too bleak and brutal & BTW why have the Frey's been totally forgotten?.....
I thought that melisandre didn't actually kill nance in the books? It was a farce and they swapped his outward appearance with one of the other wild kings and killed them instead. Also mances' son has disappeared, in the books he gets swapped with gilly's boy and goes with Sam and gilly to old town. I think it's weird they left these 2 parts out because I think they may have been leading somewhere?
Whitley wrote: "I thought that melisandre didn't actually kill nance in the books? It was a farce and they swapped his outward appearance with one of the other wild kings and killed them instead. Also mances' son ..."I was referring to the show and not the book. In the show they kill off Mance and he has no son. Also in the book there is Val but there is NO Val in the show. So the two at times are vastly different, unfortunately.
Whitley wrote: "I thought that melisandre didn't actually kill nance in the books? It was a farce and they swapped his outward appearance with one of the other wild kings and killed them instead. Also mances' son ..."Yes, in the book it's Rattleshirt who takes the place of the King Beyond the Wall who takes the guise of Abel and with several spearwives goes to Winterfell as a bard and washerwomen with the aim of rescuing 'Arya' who is actually Sansa's friend Jeyne Poole. Blending Sansa's story with Jeyne's was perhaps the showrunners attempt to economise the story, focusing on the main characters, but it's just one example of the times where a pre-existing storyline from the books is bastardised to fit with the show.
Woolfie wrote: "Whitley wrote: "I thought that melisandre didn't actually kill nance in the books? It was a farce and they swapped his outward appearance with one of the other wild kings and killed them instead. A..."In the books Mance Rayder takes or is glamored to look like Rattleshirt and it is the glamored Mance who goes to Winterfell.....I was also disappointed that Mance's role was not really included in the show as I loved the character and felt he would have added quite a great deal to the show....
