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message 2651: by Critterbee❇ (new)

Critterbee❇ (critterbee) | 2786 comments Oh Kim, I am so sorry to hear that about your sweet Rugby. 14 years together- such a gift - I know you must miss him terribly.


message 2652: by Kim (new)

Kim Kaso | 511 comments TY, Carol. Am just so sad. Been hard to read, which is nearly unheard of for me. ;-(.


message 2653: by Kim (new)

Kim Kaso | 511 comments TY, Critterbee. It is such a hole inside & out. I keep thinking I glimpse him coming around the corner.


message 2654: by Abigail (new)

Abigail Bok (regency_reader) I'm so glad he had a wonderful last day, Kim! You have that to hang on to at least.


message 2655: by Karlyne (new)

Karlyne Landrum | 3895 comments Abigail wrote: "I'm so glad he had a wonderful last day, Kim! You have that to hang on to at least."

Yes, it is a comfort to know you gave him a good life. And his last day is what I want mine to be, too!


message 2656: by Jane (new)

Jane | 178 comments Oh Kim, I'm so sorry. I'm feeling so sad for you. I've got tears in my eyes. I'm surrounded by elderly pets and it's so hard to gear myself up for the inevitable. I have a huge Leonberger dog and he's so precious and has brought joy to so many people when he goes on therapy visits, but he's getting old and it makes me sad. I hope his last day will be a good one, like your sweet puppy had. I also lost my all-time favorite cat, Pip, in June and, at least once a week, I still expect to see him following me around the house, so I fully understand when you said you expect to glimpse your Rugby coming around the corner.


message 2657: by Kim (new)

Kim Kaso | 511 comments We’ve lost 2 cats in the past couple of months, as well, Jackson, a huge Tuxedo cat, and Coal, a medium-hair silky black cat with blazing green eyes. She died purring in my arms. In a house that has seen up to seven cats (2 out doors, 5 in) and 2 dogs, I am down to just one cat, Zen, a grey tabby who chews on the corner of my books. She is in my profile pic. We will adopt more at some point, but I am grieving & am not there yet.


Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ Kim wrote: "We’ve lost 2 cats in the past couple of months, as well, Jackson, a huge Tuxedo cat, and Coal, a medium-hair silky black cat with blazing green eyes. She died purring in my arms. In a house that ha..."

I think it pays to give yourself time to grieve Kim.


message 2659: by Barb in Maryland (new)

Barb in Maryland | 816 comments Oh Kim, so sorry to hear about the death of your beloved Rugby. {{{hugs}}} He was, no doubt, a good dog.


message 2660: by Susan in NC (last edited Feb 23, 2019 03:12PM) (new)

Susan in NC (susanncreader) | 4143 comments Kim, I am so sorry - when I lost my beloved Kate, five years ago, it was so hard. We got two senior rescue dogs we have come to love, but I still miss my beloved girl - she was 17, and it was so hard to let go, I know what you mean. I still miss her, and yes, they age too fast.


message 2661: by Susan in NC (last edited Feb 23, 2019 03:20PM) (new)

Susan in NC (susanncreader) | 4143 comments Jane wrote: "Oh Kim, I'm so sorry. I'm feeling so sad for you. I've got tears in my eyes. I'm surrounded by elderly pets and it's so hard to gear myself up for the inevitable. I have a huge Leonberger dog and h..."

Bless you and your good therapy dog - I’ve never met a real Leonberger, only seen pictures. I’d love to meet one and rub my face in that gorgeous mane of fur (only after a proper introduction, of course - one mustn’t assume!)

I am so sorry about Pip - our beloved friends come into our lives and enrich them immeasurably.


message 2662: by Teresa (new)

Teresa | 2186 comments Oh Kim my heart goes out to you. We lost our lovely Irish Wolfhound two weeks before Christmas. He was very very old and just gave up in the end. I cried for days afterwards. We still have his companion who is a Labrador cross. He's still a bit lost two and a half months later. They were together since they were six weeks old. The heartbreak of losing them takes a long time to go away. Thinking of you.


message 2663: by QNPoohBear (new)

QNPoohBear | 1638 comments Dear Kim.
I am so sorry about Rusby. I know how you feel. 14 years isn't nearly long enough. It's terrible that it happened on vacation which was supposed to be a happy time for your family.

I haven't stopped missing our family Cairn Terrier who was my favorite sibling and my father's favorite child. She holds a very special place in my heart and my dad's too. Her 14th anniversary just passed and it seems like last year. I like to think of her having a blast at the Rainbow Bridge with her e-mail pen-pals, her cyber-sweetheart and my dog-loving grandparents (NOT my grandfather's poodle, who hated everyone except my grandfather... she'll be in a recliner alone with him). I'm sure my grandmother will cook up some extra chicken gizzards for Rugsby.


message 2664: by Jane (new)

Jane | 178 comments I find it comforting to know that so many of you share that special love and bond we have with our pets, and also understand the deep sorrow when we lose them. It's healing, in a way, just to chat with all of you. :)

Susan, pretty much any Leonberger you meet would just loooove to be your new bff!! In fact, they're pretty much best friends with anybody and everybody they meet!! They would let you hug on their neck for hours. My Dreyfus has had kids stick their fingers in his eye sockets and up his nose, he's been put in a virtual choke hold by a surprisingly-strong little old lady with dementia, and he's had his feet run over by wheelchairs, and, yet, he just stands there wagging his tail and smiling.

I've never met an Irish Wolfhound (but I wish I had!! - I think Kim and Teresa were blessed to have shared life with such magnificent creatures). I'm under the impression that they have the same sweet and friendly temperament as Leonberger's and Newfoundlands.

I grew up on a farm and, sadly, people used to dump unwanted pets out in the country, so we always had a motley assortment of dogs and cats living with us, and they were all so sweet and different in personality. I never could understand why people would just dump their pets (but we've actually seen them open the car door and put the animal out and drive off !!). One day a beautiful English Setter showed up (not sure if he wandered up or was dumped). He was sweet and gentle and decided he adored my mom so he never left her side. One day, mom was home alone and a creepy guy showed up at the house. This sweet, gentle dog went into ferocious attack mode and chased the creepy guy off the property. About two weeks later the dog wandered off. He was only with us about six months. We liked to believe he just wandered to the next family that needed his protection. :)


Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ Jane wrote: "I find it comforting to know that so many of you share that special love and bond we have with our pets, and also understand the deep sorrow when we lose them. It's healing, in a way, just to chat ..."

What a sweet story, Jane! (the one about the English Setter)


message 2666: by Susan in Perthshire (new)

Susan in Perthshire (susanageofaquarius) | 1448 comments Kim - I’m so very sorry at your loss. Of course you miss him, he was part of your family. Look after yourself and let yourself grieve. You’re right, dogs live life to a much shorter candle. It makes it hard for us but at least we have the memories. Sending hugs 🤗


message 2667: by Susan in NC (new)

Susan in NC (susanncreader) | 4143 comments Jane wrote: "I find it comforting to know that so many of you share that special love and bond we have with our pets, and also understand the deep sorrow when we lose them. It's healing, in a way, just to chat ..."

Great story! And good to know Leonbergers, with their great size, are generally pretty even-tempered - your Mr. Dreyfus sounds like an 😇 angel!

Yes, very sad that people just dump unwanted pets - but thank you for your rescues and the love you and your family shared - my dad was a police officer, and often brought home strays (we did not live on a farm, I think it was challenging for my city-bred, no-pets-growing-up mom!)


message 2668: by Critterbee❇ (new)

Critterbee❇ (critterbee) | 2786 comments Hey everybody!

I have a cooking question, and from past discussion, I know that there is a wealth of knowledge among our group members here, so...

I made tapioca. I soaked medium pearls and cooked it in strong veggie broth with some lime juice. It is definitely savoury. My original intention was to use it like a grain, i.e. adding my veggies and beans to it. Well, it turned into a lumpy porridge consistency. I guess I really overcooked it. In my defense, I have successfully done this before, and it turned out fine, like a springy-sprongy, chewy couscous. Basically now I have savoury tapioca pudding.

Any tips on how to use this? Can I saute or bake it to make it into a firmer consistency? Add flour to make a chewy bread? Mix it with something to make it more of a full meal? Maybe mix it with veggies and bake it into a pot pie?

I hate wasting food, so if need be I will just reheat it eat it for breakfast, but I was hoping that someone would know how to wrangle this bouncy mess.


message 2669: by Susan in NC (last edited Mar 09, 2019 05:20PM) (new)

Susan in NC (susanncreader) | 4143 comments Gosh, I’m sorry, I’ve only ever used tapioca as an addition to slow cooker meals as a thickener, sorry! I’ve never tried to use tapioca on its own, but clever you for thinking outside the box!

My first thought was spread into a small baking dish and bake it like polenta then slice and serve with maybe tomato sauce, but I don’t know how tapioca would bake up.


message 2670: by Karlyne (new)

Karlyne Landrum | 3895 comments I'd try putting it into a buttered loaf pan and refrigerating it over night. Tip it out, slice it about half inch thick, and fry it in butter. With an egg on top it might be fabulous!


message 2671: by Susan in NC (new)

Susan in NC (susanncreader) | 4143 comments Karlyne wrote: "I'd try putting it into a buttered loaf pan and refrigerating it over night. Tip it out, slice it about half inch thick, and fry it in butter. With an egg on top it might be fabulous!"

There you go! Then you don’t have to worry about it drying out if you tried baking it.


message 2672: by Karlyne (new)

Karlyne Landrum | 3895 comments Let us know how it turns out, Critterbee. I use quinoa a lot for breakfast, and I'm always looking for variety!


message 2673: by Critterbee❇ (new)

Critterbee❇ (critterbee) | 2786 comments Thank you both Susan and Karlyne. I will try frying some for breakfast tomorrow, and see how it goes, and baking a portion afterwards. It is always interesting to see how new techniques work out.


message 2674: by Susan in NC (new)

Susan in NC (susanncreader) | 4143 comments Critterbee❇ wrote: "Thank you both Susan and Karlyne. I will try frying some for breakfast tomorrow, and see how it goes, and baking a portion afterwards. It is always interesting to see how new techniques work out."

😌 let us know!


message 2675: by Karlyne (new)

Karlyne Landrum | 3895 comments Have fun!


message 2676: by Susan in Perthshire (new)

Susan in Perthshire (susanageofaquarius) | 1448 comments I have only ever eaten tapioca as a dessert. It was a regular for school dinners when I was young. Cooked in milk and some sugar until it had a porridge like consistency and served with strawberry purée. I ate it but I was never overly fond because of its consistency. Never thought of it being prepared as a savoury dish!


message 2677: by Teresa (new)

Teresa | 2186 comments Same here Susan. My mother made it as a dessert. Can't remember how she did it but we always had it with a dollop of jam (blackcurrant for me) in the middle of it. This post has brought back some memories for me.


message 2678: by Susan in NC (new)

Susan in NC (susanncreader) | 4143 comments Teresa wrote: "Same here Susan. My mother made it as a dessert. Can't remember how she did it but we always had it with a dollop of jam (blackcurrant for me) in the middle of it. This post has brought back some m..."

I hope pleasant ones!


message 2679: by Susan in NC (new)

Susan in NC (susanncreader) | 4143 comments Susan in Perthshire wrote: "I have only ever eaten tapioca as a dessert. It was a regular for school dinners when I was young. Cooked in milk and some sugar until it had a porridge like consistency and served with strawberry ..."

Exactly- I was thinking of pudding-like consistency. I don’t remember having it, but I know it’s used in puddings (American pudding, as in custard-like dessert, not English pudding as in the title for generic dessert course).


message 2680: by Barb in Maryland (new)

Barb in Maryland | 816 comments Yes! we had it warm, as a sweet dessert--can't remember adding any jam. It usually made an appearance when one of us had a sore throat or upset stomach. I was an adult before I learned that tapioca had other uses! BTW, I loved the texture, though I can understand why some would not be so fond...


message 2681: by Karlyne (last edited Mar 10, 2019 02:06PM) (new)

Karlyne Landrum | 3895 comments Barb in Maryland wrote: "Yes! we had it warm, as a sweet dessert--can't remember adding any jam. It usually made an appearance when one of us had a sore throat or upset stomach. I was an adult before I learned that tapioca..."

We had corn meal mush and tapioca pudding when we were sick! Well, not together. And, I just remembered, bread and milk. Wow, did those bring back childhood! My own kids and grandkids love tapioca, but, alas, not the other two.


Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ I love tapioca & sago - but my husband doesn't. We always had as a dessert, served with tinned fruit.


message 2683: by Lesley (new)

Lesley Ugh! Frog spawn :(
Every time we were at my grandmother's for Sunday dinner (not often thankfully) she'd have boiled beef and vegetables followed by tapioca with fruit.

To be honest I wasn't overly keen on any of the hot milk puddings. Couldn't stand tapioca, didn't much like rice, sago or bread & butter pudding at a pinch. In fact I guess I'm just not a pudding fan.


message 2684: by Critterbee❇ (new)

Critterbee❇ (critterbee) | 2786 comments Results time.

The tapioca stayed in the fridge overnight, and solidified into the shape of the dish I stored it in.

First: I cut out a few slices and first tried frying it in a non-stick pan at a med-high heat... and
it never got crispy! It stayed sprongy and reshaped a bit to fit the pan. I ate it with a spoon and some hot sauce. It was food, but not really something I would want to serve others.

Second: I scooped some out and stirred it a bit to loosen it and pressed it into a shallow ramekin. I baked it in the oven for about an hour at 400F (about 200C). It is STILL sprongy!

Do scientists know about this? That it keeps malleability in high temperatures? I can't think of any tech uses right away, but this is amazing. Although I am sure it dissolves in water.

I think in the future, I will limit it to sweet dishes, or that Brazilian cheese bread that is so delicious and chewy.


message 2685: by Karlyne (new)

Karlyne Landrum | 3895 comments Brazilian cheese bread?!? Nebbaheard of it!


message 2686: by Karlyne (new)

Karlyne Landrum | 3895 comments Lesley wrote: "Ugh! Frog spawn :(
Every time we were at my grandmother's for Sunday dinner (not often thankfully) she'd have boiled beef and vegetables followed by tapioca with fruit.

To be honest I wasn't ove..."


Lesley wrote: "Ugh! Frog spawn :(
Every time we were at my grandmother's for Sunday dinner (not often thankfully) she'd have boiled beef and vegetables followed by tapioca with fruit.

To be honest I wasn't ove..."


We call it frog's eyes!


message 2687: by Critterbee❇ (new)

Critterbee❇ (critterbee) | 2786 comments It is really called Pao de Queijo but I never studied Portuguese, and it really calls for tapioca flour not pearls, but it is amazingly chewy and packed with cheese and a bit of garlic.


message 2688: by Susan in NC (new)

Susan in NC (susanncreader) | 4143 comments Critterbee❇ wrote: "It is really called Pao de Queijo but I never studied Portuguese, and it really calls for tapioca flour not pearls, but it is amazingly chewy and packed with cheese and a bit of garlic."


Interesting! I hadn’t heard about Brazilian cheese bread either, but my son knew about it - he’s trying to teach himself Portuguese and is in social media contact with several Brazilians, says they are mad for this bread...



message 2689: by Susan in NC (new)

Susan in NC (susanncreader) | 4143 comments Remember we heard it here first - when Critterbee sells her invention to NASA or something for some space age application!


message 2690: by Jane (new)

Jane | 178 comments Wow. I had NO idea tapioca was anything other than a sweet & creamy pudding dessert (good memories from my childhood). ......
The things one learns in the Georgette Heyer group!!

Critterbee, I wonder if you could dye it and make it into the next great, must-have toy rage. Kind of like silly putty or that "slime" stuff they market to the kids.


message 2691: by Critterbee❇ (new)

Critterbee❇ (critterbee) | 2786 comments Jane wrote: "Wow. I had NO idea tapioca was anything other than a sweet & creamy pudding dessert (good memories from my childhood). ......
The things one learns in the Georgette Heyer group!!

Critterbee, I wo..."


I think it would be perfect for slimy toys - we made some with our tween girls book group, however we used shaving cream, borax and glue instead of tapioca!


message 2692: by Ginny (new)

Ginny  | 26 comments Lesley wrote: "Ugh! Frog spawn :(
Every time we were at my grandmother's for Sunday dinner (not often thankfully) she'd have boiled beef and vegetables followed by tapioca with fruit.

To be honest I wasn't ove..."


Lesley wrote: "Ugh! Frog spawn :(
Every time we were at my grandmother's for Sunday dinner (not often thankfully) she'd have boiled beef and vegetables followed by tapioca with fruit.

To be honest I wasn't ove..."


Karlyne wrote: "Lesley wrote: "Ugh! Frog spawn :(
Every time we were at my grandmother's for Sunday dinner (not often thankfully) she'd have boiled beef and vegetables followed by tapioca with fruit.

Leslie, I LOVE your analogy- for tapioca-- yes- visually alot like frog spawn lol.



message 2693: by Susan in NC (new)

Susan in NC (susanncreader) | 4143 comments Jane wrote: "Wow. I had NO idea tapioca was anything other than a sweet & creamy pudding dessert (good memories from my childhood). ......
The things one learns in the Georgette Heyer group!!

Critterbee, I wo..."


Jane has a great idea here, it does sound indestructible- the little darlings can bake it, fry it in the sun on a hot summer day, and it still bounces right back! And, edible in a pinch! Winner!


message 2694: by Ginny (new)

Ginny  | 26 comments Have you all tried bubble tea? My daughter ordered it in an Asian restaurant several years ago. Tea with huge pearls of tapioca in it. I passed on the pearls and had plain tea instead. See below for images of "bubble tea"
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&a...


message 2695: by Critterbee❇ (new)

Critterbee❇ (critterbee) | 2786 comments Boba! That was pretty popular when I lived in Japan but I never really liked it - something about having solids in my liquid. The straws were so big so you could suck up the pearls but it was not easy.
I think the first time I had it was in Taipei though, and it spread from there to the world.


message 2696: by Karlyne (new)

Karlyne Landrum | 3895 comments Ginny wrote: "Have you all tried bubble tea? My daughter ordered it in an Asian restaurant several years ago. Tea with huge pearls of tapioca in it. I passed on the pearls and had plain tea instead. See below fo..."

I would have talked my daughter into ordering the pearls, because I love the idea, but although I used to constantly try different teas, the only one I really like is a seriously black tea. So, I've narrowed down all my tea drinking to a loose leaf organic Assam; it's so perfect that I've stopped searching.


message 2697: by Critterbee❇ (new)

Critterbee❇ (critterbee) | 2786 comments Karlyne wrote: "I would have talked my daughter into ordering the pearls, because I love the idea, but although I used to constantly try different teas, the only one I really like is a seriously black tea. So, I've narrowed down all my tea drinking to a loose leaf organic Assam; it's so perfect that I've stopped searching..."

Which brand is that? DO you drink it hot and cold. I like Assam tea.


message 2698: by Karlyne (new)

Karlyne Landrum | 3895 comments Critterbee❇ wrote: "Karlyne wrote: "I would have talked my daughter into ordering the pearls, because I love the idea, but although I used to constantly try different teas, the only one I really like is a seriously bl..."

I get it from Amazon: Positively Tea, the 1# loose leaf organic Assam. It was $17.95 for years, but it's gone up to around $20 now - which sounds like a lot, but it makes a whole lotta pots! I have several one and two cup pots, so it's easy to make just what I want - and the tea leaves are great in my planter boxes. The smell, by the way, is gorgeous, like fresh earth and mysterious leaves and a hint of summer flowers.


message 2699: by Critterbee❇ (new)

Critterbee❇ (critterbee) | 2786 comments Sold!

I have had some Positively Tea before - it is good stuff. I like their Genmai and Ceylon teas.

Sometimes tea can be pricey. We read The Tea Girl of Hummingbird Lane for our Same Page program at the library, and had a tea tasting of various types of Puerh tea, which is not my favorite. Some of the participants liked the tea and went to purchase it - and found out that it was 69USD for 200 grams. Good thing the library gets a grant for that program!


message 2700: by Karlyne (new)

Karlyne Landrum | 3895 comments Critterbee❇ wrote: "Sold!

I have had some Positively Tea before - it is good stuff. I like their Genmai and Ceylon teas.

Sometimes tea can be pricey. We read The Tea Girl of Hummingbird Lane for our ..."


Wow! That's a taste I wouldn't want to cultivate!


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