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If the book is not lendable you will see "Lending: Not Enabled"
Amazon allows books to be loaned out one time only and for a period of 14 days.
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I, Curmudgeon wrote: "And..some books on kindle do not allow borrowing ....like "Rook"."That part really pisses me off about the ebook's rights. If I order it with the BUY NOW button (per Bruce Willis' lawsuit) I own it and should be able to loan it to whoever I want. Just like a paper copy. But Amazon claims they are "licensing" the book to us, so they can allow us to loan it or not depending on the capricious whim of their overlords.
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That part really pisses me off about the ebook's rights. If I order it with the BUY NOW button (per Bruce W..."
Yes, if I "buy" a DvD, I don't have to go back to Block Buster or Best Buy to see if I have permission to let my brother in Texas watch it. Why do I have to with a book I paid for?
I'm using a Nook right now but soon I will own both formats.There are plenty of books I would like to read.
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Yes, the Nook also has a lending program.
As Eileen has alrady said, yes Nook has lending. Some books you can not lend (which is silly and needs corrected).
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I've thought a lot about the attempts at limiting electronic media. I think things like the lending limit are an attempt at making it bring in the same returns as the old media. I believe it's futile, too.We've seen this in the music industry. LP's, 8 tracks & cassettes wore out. CD's took a bit longer & could be copied, so the pressure was on, so prices went up & packaging stretched profits (One decent song on a CD). It got really ugly with irresponsible sharing & worse DRM.
Finally, iTunes made the breakthrough & dropped DRM & let us buy what we wanted & use it how we wanted. They created a price point that worked. It was cheap & easy enough that jumping through any hoops to get the song for free just wasn't worth it.
I think ebooks & such will evolve a similar method, but publishers are still stuck in the past & have to overcome their industry inertia. They have a lot to overcome, too. They made some bad moves back in the Depression that have come home to roost - the ability for stores to return just book covers & other idiocies they never corrected. Now there's another crunch & their profits can't support it & they're making things worse by all the mergers which are killing their quality.
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Books are now where you almost can go to a kiosk and say, "The Rook" and hear the question "Will that be e-book, paper copy, hard cover or audio book.
There are still some legal maneuvering by the "PTB" (Powers That Be) before e-books steady out. Like the law suit settled by Amazon that the Narrators Union (or guild?) brought because of "Text to Speech." That's why we can't find that feature on any Kindle except for the original one (3/4G with a Keyboard).
Seeley James posted a good article on his blog that suggested one possibility is that the heavy publishers would start using e-books and the indie market like farm league baseball teams, drafting the best sellers to their stables as they become popular.
I think the "counter" publishing industry (by that I don't mean Indie-writers but the staff and experts that make books, books that used to work for publishers) get together and figure out a way to offers services to polish books to professional quality (not that all indie writers and indie pubs need it) for either a percentage of royalties or a flat rate.
I just don't think that the "die is cast" yet. It's got a few fluctuations to go through.
Some of those fluctuations have to be bringing some sense to the publisher's business model. In what other industry can the retail store order as much of the product as it wants, then destroy it when it feels like, & still receive a full refund? Only book stores. Of course, they're dropping like flies in the winter, but they're still a basic hole that needs to be fixed & none of the publishers seems to have the moxie to be the first to put a plug in it.Another issue is the big business model that treats books like any other product. Books aren't. Yes, they're a product overall, but they're also art & require a personal touch that the big businesses aren't taking care of. Editors are swapped out as if they're interchangeable. That doesn't always work with authors who are artists. It certainly doesn't work for series where story & style continuity must be maintained.
And I don't think even the gods understand their marketing strategy. They'll push some books by pouring money into them until I'm sick to death of the ads, but we never hear of the majority, quite a few which I think are better.
DRM, proprietary formats & such will all likely go away. They don't play well in the long run. It's an immature market. Give it a decade & things will change. At least I hope so.
Serendipity, a friend of mine just put this article up on FB about how ebooks should be priced. It's very interesting.http://talkingwriting.com/how-much-sh...
Jim wrote: "Serendipity, a friend of mine just put this article up on FB about how ebooks should be priced. It's very interesting.http://talkingwriting.com/how-much-sh..."
Nice article Jim, thanks.
Jim wrote: "Serendipity, a friend of mine just put this article up on FB about how ebooks should be priced. It's very interesting.http://talkingwriting.com/how-much-sh..."
This is an outstanding article. A real level-set on how you value your work. All writers should read this one.
Jim, Thanks for sharing the article, very interesting.
Great article, Jim. It will be interesting to see where the 'Ebook world' ends up pricing-wise at the end of 2013.At the end of the day, here's my own personal take on it: It costs me a minimum of four months to write and edit a story. How many times do I want to do that, just for a chance to earn .30 cents a book?
I'm down with the idea that it's smart to have one book out of the oeuvre priced at free/.99 cents to help build a readership base, but the rest of mine are at $2.99 or higher and always will be.
I'd guess it would depend on how many books get sold. $0.30 doesn't sound like much. If you sell 10, then you might as well give the book away free as the good karma is probably worth more to you. A million puts an entirely different light on it, though. Time is also a factor. 10 per day for 10 years adds up. Finding that sweet spot & keeping it is the tough part.Thankfully, I earn my living at the daily grind. I'll never be rich, but I don't think I could stand the excitement of surviving as an artist.
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Jim wrote: "I'd guess it would depend on how many books get sold. $0.30 doesn't sound like much. If you sell 10, then you might as well give the book away free as the good karma is probably worth more to you..."I'm a musician and have spent all of my twenty's and early thirties grinding it out at clubs all over the Chicago and Milwaukee area. Everyone had a promise but nobody had a deal. I would imagine an author faces the same obstacles as a musician, it's hard hocking your product with so much competition all around you.
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