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Do you think there is an emerging preference for shorter fiction and if so, how might this impact new fantasy trilogy/epic series? Will it be harder to establish a fan base for these?
Thank-you!

They all explore a similar theme of a commoner rising to the worlds greatest healer and magician. Along with gay and lesbian relationships and the violent overthrow of the established order. Is this a theme that you find yourself telling again and again because you are trying to get it right or one that you find personally compelling?
And will it carry on into your next trilogies?

When you decided Sonea should be pregnant at the end of The High Lord, was it just to set up the next trilogy and if you hadn't planned to write a new trilogy (or at that point did you not plan to write the second trilogy?) what do you think you would have done to tie up some of the characters stories a bit more (specifically Cery)?
Are you going to do anything with other magical/supernatural creatures? Another series? Or will they make a small appearance in other books?


Were there scenes you found particulary hard to write for some reasons? What kind of scenes would that be and for what reasons, if I might ask.
And: Do you plan much before you start to write? Do you write down many details about the world and the characters or do you just keep those things in your head, but not write it down?

Do you have difficulties finding names for your books or your chapters?

Hi Tom! I was going to answer the questions we didn't tackle in the interview but then I thought... maybe you'd prefer I waited until after the show has aired so people don't know which ones you asked. What do you think?


Lol, I nearly splurted my peppermint tea over the keyboard reading that. I will wait. Or answer new & different questions to those posted before the interview!
Trudi Canavan wrote: "Tom wrote: "We're recording our next two authors guides this coming Tuesday. Got questions for Trudi Canavan? Ask them here! We'll ask them to her."
Hi Tom! I was going to answer the questions ..."
I agree with Ty... in all things. The show will be up on Friday morning (Saturday in Australia) so if you don't mind coming back then it would be great!!
And thanks again for talking with us, it was great fun.
Hi Tom! I was going to answer the questions ..."
I agree with Ty... in all things. The show will be up on Friday morning (Saturday in Australia) so if you don't mind coming back then it would be great!!
And thanks again for talking with us, it was great fun.

It's been a few years sinde I read the Black Magician Trilogy and on top of that the german translation seemed to be done a bit poorly, so forgive me if I'm a bit fuzzy on the details.
My question is about the final confrontaion in "The High Lord" so I'll put in in spoiler tags.
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And on another note I'll quickly share my pet peeve with an otherwise compelling trilogy.
Your use of the term "black magic" always sat wrong with me. It is my experience, especially as a player of pen & paper role-playing games, that the term "black" magic is most often associated with demons and necromancy and such. It just never felt right in the context of your story to me. Imho the much more fitting term would have been blood magic.
Was this just me, or did anyone else have that problem?

As I recall they renamed high magic to black magic to vilify it after what happened with the mad apprentice and the things they learned during the prequel.
In fact if you read the whole series you get the impression that the academy which was set up to share knowledge between magicians has actual developed into an institution that focuses magicians talents away from those skills deemed to dangerous. Like mind reading which is revealed to be a simple ability that any magician can learn.
That's how I saw it. They call it black magic because they wanted to make it sound evil after they decided to ban it. Before then it was called higher magic, and still is outside the Allied Lands.
I think Alex's suggestion that the Guild's purpose is partially to focus magical study away from perceived-to-be dangerous areas is a good one. I guess the most remarkable thing is that it actually seems to have worked for a few centuries or so (I'm unsure what the time frame is from the mad apprentice through to Sonea's arrival).
I think Alex's suggestion that the Guild's purpose is partially to focus magical study away from perceived-to-be dangerous areas is a good one. I guess the most remarkable thing is that it actually seems to have worked for a few centuries or so (I'm unsure what the time frame is from the mad apprentice through to Sonea's arrival).

All three! Sometimes it's a scene or situation, out of which a character springs and a fragment of a world. Sometimes it's an idea on how to twist a common or obvious plot in a new direction. Sometimes it's a new cool way a magic system could work, or an environment that would pose challenges for humans to occupy. Often a good story comes out of shmoodging two or three ideas together.
But I can say I don't sit in front of the computer and just write. I tend to do a lot of thinking and visualising in my head first, then make notes and an outline, then put it in my 'incubator' folder and let it ferment for a few years.

They all explore a similar theme of a commoner rising to the worlds greatest healer and magician. Al..."
Hmm, I think I'll have to break this down...
Commoner: if you mean that my characters aren't royalty, then mostly yes. There's something about how often lead characters are (or were) lost, deposed or bastard princes and (sometimes princesses) that irks me. It's as if we haven't grown past the fairy tale, where only royalty have adventures. Far more interesting is the ordinary person who succeeds out of determination and intelligence. But I think that's changing and why there are so many stories where the central characters are thieves and scoundrels. I might write a royal character one day, but no plans to yet.
If you mean commoner as in from the lower classes, then I'd have to point out that Auraya was from the merchant class and is even more powerful than royalty at the beginning of PotW, Tessia is from the professional class, Lilia the servant class and Lorkin, of course, was raised in the Guild so is the highest class. In my next book one of the two main characters is a rich girl. So no, I'm aiming for variety.
Healer: I do like my healers. Mostly because I like magic, and it's the most noble and useful form of magic, needed in times of peace and war. Only one of my characters could be described as 'the world's greatest' healer, though: Mirar. It's likely there'll be healers in future stories, but I'm not aiming for them to be in all my stories or always have the starring role.
Magician: heck yes!
Gay characters: In more Black Magician Trilogy sequels? Yes. In other books? Probably, since to me it feels like a more realistic world if it reflects ours, but how prominent they are really comes down to whether the story requires it. In the end, the story rules.
Violent overthrow of the established order: I can't remember where I read or heard it, but someone once summed up what a satisfying ending to a fantasy epic required was for the character and world to be changed in some fundamental way. So unless I come up with a twist on that, then yes.

When you decided Sonea should be pregnant at..."
Actually - and this may seem weird - Sonea's pregnancy was a last moment decision that came out of needing the story's final wrap-up to not be too grim or tidy. I could tell that the descriptions of recovery weren't enough, and I prefer a sense that, like in reality, the story goes on. But I didn't plan to write a sequel at that point. I had a few ideas, but not enough for another trilogy. It took over half a decade for the ideas to develop into The Magician's Apprentice and the sequel.
Magical creatures? Maybe. There's something in the new series that kind of is and kind of isn't.

1) *Potential Traitor Queen spoiler* You dropped a lot of hints about the Igra and a potential magic vs firearms conflict at the end of The Traitor Queen yet you have stated that your new trilogy is set in a completely new world. Are there any definite plans to come back to this at any point or is it just one of those things dropped in just in case you do want to go back and expand?
2)Your magical system within Kyralia is one of my favourite ever because, though the magicians are powerful, they have very definite limits and weaknesses that make them human. What was your inspiration for the system and especially the decision to have separate types of magic (force, heat, etc)
3)*Definite Traitor Queen spoiler* The only thing I have felt to be really out of character through ten books was the relationship between Sonea and Regin. As the author, what did you feel were Sonea's motivations in Pursuing, or rather accepting, the relationship?
4) When you first published the black magician trilogy were you worried about the reaction to writing an openly gay character?
Sorry for the excess of questions, it's not often I get to ask these things of my favourite authors.

I realise I answered only half of this in the show. I don't read fanfiction and ask that fans not send me their ideas, so the relationship isn't as close as it could be. The reason are: I was advised not to in case I did something a fanfiction writer had done and they tried to sue me; and I can't help thinking that anything someone else suggests must be predictable so if lots of people told me lots of ideas I'd have nothing left to write!

Do you have difficulties finding names for your books or your chapters?"
Books: no. Chapters: sometimes, because it has to be something that fits the events in the chapter without giving away the plot. In Age of the Five I tried not naming chapters and in the new series I'm not doing it either. While it's fun, I do wonder if people associate it with children's novels.

Lol, no! Probably because there are US, UK and Australian editions with appropriate spellings for each.

It's been a few years sinde I read the Black Magician Trilogy and on top of that the german translation seemed ..."
(view spoiler)
Interesting pet peeve. In the ten years since the book was published this is the first time anyone has asked me about it.
I took the general meaning from past and existing cultures of this world, where black magic simply means evil, forbidden or secretive magic. I suspect it's more of a modern popular culture thing to narrow it down to necromancy or demon raising.
My pet peeve is the opposite, when they describe blood-letting magic as necromancy. Necro=dead body. As in 'necrophillia' which is... eww!

I'm downstairs in the aircon using an iPad so forgive me if my typing is a little off...
(1) Future BMT/TST sequels
I didn't think I'd write a sequel to the Black Magician Trilogy but I did, and of course the possibility I might write more was in the back of my mind while writing it. Yet I didn't want to commit to more books either, just in case I never did come up with enough ideas for any. So everything that is there that might lead on into future books is just that: possible but not definite leads. The firearms hint comes out of my observation that civilisations are rarely static. There is always change, and Kyralia is at a level of technological development where change should be speeding up.
(2) Magic is what I most love in fantasy, but it seemed to me (back in the 80s and 90s) that it was always too mysterious and only a last resort. I set out to make it almost ordinary, more like electricity than anything sacred or profane. Characters would use it for mundane tasks like opening doors just like we use a remote control. But the casual way magicians do this only highlights their place in society, like a rich person buying something expensive on a whim.
Of course, it needed limits and some structure in the training and fight scenes, so I tried to give a sense that it did obey, sort of, the laws of physics. Like how it's easier to heat something up than cool it down.
(3) Sonea & Regin
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(4) I was a little worried. Enough to ask my agent, editors and other authors for advice. But they all said to write the books I wanted to write, and it clearly hasn't affected their popularity. I get the very occasional complaint, far outweighed by all the emails of thanks and appreciation.

Lol, no! Probably because there are US, UK and Australian editions with appropriat..."
Thanks for the answer. I'm stil not totally conviced, though. ;p
Regarding your pet peeve: I can absolutely understand that. I would also have a problem with that. I have never come across it, though.
In all instances I have come across, necromancy always concerned itself with any combination of speaking to the dead, raising the dead, and controlling these raised dead.

Gary.
