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Apr 04, 2013 08:09AM

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Yes, absolutely. As evidenced by today and it's now dreary. And it's forecast to be dreary right through the weekend. So now I'm mopey. Not unhappy, just not sunshiney.

But, of course, this is Spring and it's Boise, so it's to be expected. Honestly, I'd rather then rain so we're not in drought-like conditions so early in the summer.
We get fires pretty bad around here in the late summer.

Mr Jack and group have a lovely evening.

I heard she has quite the library...2600 books!!! I wonder if I can fit that many on my Kindle? hmmm....

Kat she has a kindle to and she told me that they are suspose to hold like 3500 books. hers is a old one. I do know she preferrs the actual books though. I want a e-reader but not sure which kind yet. yes her library is very large and she lets people check them out. She has been reading and creating a library for years since we were kids. I know when she got married one trip in her van was nothing but books...hahaha

I thought the kindle could only hold a couple of thousand books... I dunno for sure though.

The rest of my library I keep on my computer and browse in Calibre (a highly recommended program!).

I thought the kindle could only hold a couple of thousand books... I dunno for sure though."
well that is what my cousin said and I know she looks at stuff like that before buying..

I have not heard of that program Jon..

I have to say, I don't buy a lot of books now that I can get them online for free. For one, I don't have the space for physical books at the moment, and I simply do not have the money to buy books...
I don't know what you all think about piracy, but I'm usually fairly honest when I do it. Not that I go to the authors or other companies and tell them, of course...

It's also great as a standalone program if you want to organize your library on the computer. Lots of useful features.
Cherrelle wrote:"I don't know what you all think about piracy, but I'm usually fairly honest when I do it. Not that I go to the authors or other companies and tell them, of course... "
Step 1: Grab a ten-foot pole.
Step 2: Do not touch said topic with it.
:)

So what do you think about people from the UK celebrating Margaret Thatcher's death and trying to get "Ding Dong! The Witch is Dead" up to number 1 in the charts this week? Do you think the BBC should play the song or just skip over it?
Personally, I think it's good that people are expressing their feelings about her death like this. The media, at first, was trying to make out that she was a great person and the whole country will miss her. What we've done by buying this song is tell the world how all the working class really feel about Margaret Thatcher.
I also think it'd be wrong for the BBC to censor what makes it into the charts.
No! Lilac! It's terrible. Imagine how her family feels. I think it's disgraceful. She's dead now so what does it matter. I would never be so cruel to her loved ones. They should not play the song on the charts today. I hope others agree with me on this.

Listen, I don't care if people hated her. She did terrible things to Ireland too, but what does it matter now, she's gone. And I don't care what anyone says, it's very upsetting to the family. Even if they're not trying to hurt the family, it's totally hurtful. Imagine her young grandchildren. I don't think I could bear that if it was my mother. And I can tell you this, if it was a male leader, this would not be happening. She was the first woman to work her way up to leadership, and people didn't like that. I don't care what she did. It's terrible what they're doing. It's the cruellest thing ever.

Part of the reason they voted her in in the first place was probably to do with her being a woman. To prove that this country was becoming equal to both genders. And sure, it'll likely be a long time before another woman prime minister is voted in, because of the disaster of the first female prime minister. But that's not the reason people are glad she's dead.
People are glad she's dead because she messed up their lives. Thousands lost work because of her. Thousands became homeless. She messed with the heads of a whole generation of children brought up in her time.
The working class part of this country is trying to say that they are not happy with what she did. And they are not happy that Thatcherism (as it's being called) is still living.
(I do agree that it's quite sickening that someone's death is being celebrated, but there is reason behind it. It's not just to be stupid and upset her family.)

I know, I just don't think it's right for people to do this. We understand what she did, we don't need to torture her loved ones for it. She was called the Iron Lady because she didn't care what people thought about her. Now that she's dead people are expressing her anger, but to who, she's dead! Her family are getting the sharp point of it. Everyone already knows that we all hated her, why go buying a song that doesn't change anything at all?!
And they are doing really bad damage. And they've always expressed themselves. Why do it when she's dead and she's not there to hear it, not that she would care, hence Iron Lady

totally agree with this line Jack.
I also think that most people downloading and spreading this song on social networking sites seem to have been born since she left power and so don't really have any true idea of what she did or didn't do for this country. I think they see it as just another viral craze to do....like post videos of Gangnam style!
Yeah, some people are just taking it as a joke and don't even understand.mtheyre probably like "look, that song is no.1 on iTunes. What song is is? I'm downloading. It! Hahahahahahahah"
Lilac wrote: "I don't believe people are doing this because she's a woman at all.
Part of the reason they voted her in in the first place was probably to do with her being a woman. To prove that this country wa..."
I didn't day it was because she was a woman, I said it wouldn't be happening if it was a man. Believe it or not, men like to be in control and some don't like to see powerful women.
Just because she was a woman doesn't mean another woman leader won't be voted in. And to be honest men are just as bad leaders. I hope another woman will be voted in. Unfortunately there ha never been a woman Taoiseach in Ireland, but there had been women presidents and they were some of our best presidents.
Part of the reason they voted her in in the first place was probably to do with her being a woman. To prove that this country wa..."
I didn't day it was because she was a woman, I said it wouldn't be happening if it was a man. Believe it or not, men like to be in control and some don't like to see powerful women.
Just because she was a woman doesn't mean another woman leader won't be voted in. And to be honest men are just as bad leaders. I hope another woman will be voted in. Unfortunately there ha never been a woman Taoiseach in Ireland, but there had been women presidents and they were some of our best presidents.

I too hope another woman is voted in sometime, but I don't want one voted in simply because she's a woman. I want one voted in only if she'll make a good Prime Minister.
But, yeah, I'm sticking by what I said. I'm happy that people are celebrating. It's natural to be happy when a "baddie" dies, even at the expense of their family. They're just celebrating that Margaret Thatcher can never do anything bad again.


i agree the song should not be played... although a strange sort and not really a favorite... she has family and they loved her.. good and bad.. and it would be a very disrespectful hurtful thing to do.. Sometimes you act as a bigger person by simply walking away and letting it be.. enough..

The time to express it was when she was living and could defend herself.. In death... its one sided... before becoming a leader she was a woman with family it they felt they needed to take a stand it should have been before her death.. to me it is as bad as people who protest the war at a loved one's funeral...

I myself would feel the need to forgive her... not drag her through the mud there are respectful ways to show your feelings..I can't agree..with what they are doing...it goes back to treat others as you would want to be treated.. I would hate to think someone would hold something I done against my family and making them feel bad for loving me...In the end we all pay and answer to a higher being in my belief and its not my place to hurt others because someone kin to them made mistakes.

Hear, hear! I agree with everything you've said here. The disrespectful way people have been reacting to her death is alarming. There is a line between expression and freedom of speech and ideas, and actually celebrating someone's death. She wasn't in power at the time she died, so her death should not be a political issue. And I absolutely, 100% believe that this would not be happening if she were a man. It's disgraceful and saddening.
Jen wrote: "Jack wrote: "Listen, I don't care if people hated her. She did terrible Inge to Ireland, but what does it matter now, she's gone. And I don't care what anyone says, it's very upsetting to the famil..."
It is very saddening, and a very disrespectful thing to do.
It is very saddening, and a very disrespectful thing to do.
Denisa wrote: "I have to leave this discussion... it saddens my heart and soul that this is happening"
I'm must leave the discussion too. It's to upsetting, and it's terrible to believe that in this day and age, people can be so cruel.
I'm must leave the discussion too. It's to upsetting, and it's terrible to believe that in this day and age, people can be so cruel.

For something lighthearted....how about discussing our plans for the evening, haha. Mine are to prise myself away from GR, read a chapter or two of The Selfish Gene, feed my 4 cats, chat with my daughter some more about her GCSE and A level choices as she's been worrying about them, do some washing and load the dishwasher, check my son is still alive in his bedroom where he's been since getting home from school, then go to bed - exciting Monday night stuff!
On another note my daughter has just started reading The Hobbit and so I suggested doing a buddy read with her as I'm planning to start it this week - she rolled her eyes and suggested I should spend less time on GR!

For something lighthearted....how about discussing our plans for the evening, haha. Mine are t..."
Sounds like a nice Monday... I will arrive home from work fix supper.. my hubby and son want BBQ ham with scallop potatoes.. My hubby will go to the auction at 8 pm and I will get my bass out and pluck a little bit of Kin Croche time in a bottle. usually my son will play along on his guitar from his bedroom... but I can hear it and will smile.. then after a hour we will feed the 7 birds and let them out for some love and popcorn.. they will giggle and talk and till about 10:30. Then Ustee will announce "go night night" so up they all go and I wind down with a book... I usually don't have school work on Monday so its pretty even steady relaxing...
I haven't read the Hobbit yet either. It is on my list but a little ways down lol...


Who the eff targets children??
They knew there'd be families waiting at the finish line for the runners.
F&ck&rs.

My family's and my prayers go out to all and to the whole nation in our suffering and trying to make sense of it all..

My ..."
your welcome...united in prayer and good will is and can be amazing

I don't know why people bother to 'report' things if they don't have all the facts. Me included!

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