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Fan talk > Tobias or Four?

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Emmie  Smtih (emsmith10) | 12 comments Four is better! I mean it seems like he is more tough and stuff. His originoal name when you meet him is four so i think i like four better


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Four!!!!!!!!!!


Miranda | 20 comments Four all da way!


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Kaity (i-love-books-because-reasons) I love both names.


Kaitlyn | 6 comments I like it when tris calls him Tobias.


Abigail | 290 comments Ya, but it's like their thing. So I say four


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Emma | 13 comments I like both. 4 sound cool, and slang. But Tobias sounds neat and sexy. So I don't know?


Carolina (carolina-reads) | 7 comments I like both names, but I'd prefer if only Tris called him Tobias :)


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Emily | 65 comments I think Tobias should just be a name for tris to call him but 4 be the name that everyone else uses


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Noura Rakab | 15 comments I like four, Tobias is only for tris and him


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Jordan Tobias I like four also but when they call him Tobias it's the real him we see who he truly is


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abie (abiebowers) Four.... I think... I don't know it's a hard decision.


Minimoule | 43 comments I love four but I think Tobias is better cause in dauntless it's personal between him and tris, plus there is a bit, I think in insurgent where tris uses the name four and he's like don't use that name against me. On the other hand there is the scene in divergent when they are taking and she says that he won't be in her fear landscape anymore and he's like then everyone can call you 6 and she goes yeah four and six.


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Tobias!


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MiMi (planetearthturnsslowly) In allegiant, every time Tris called him Tobias, I kind of cringed and was like no he is four!!


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Meghan Behymer | 2 comments I like Tobias I think because it kind of balances the bad boy vibe he pushes off with Four. It reminds everyone that he is not just one thing or characterized by one virtue, a point the books seem to stress.


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Alyssa | 5 comments I like Four, it's more mysterious and has a "bad boy" ring to it. But I like Tobias when he and Tris are alone, since it kind of shows that he trusts her


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Sara Totally Four! I always thought of him and Four and Four seems like a "rebel" name! Tobias is so....


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Four: adds mystery to the meaning and gives a bit of an unnatural background.


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Arikah Lynne I like Tobias but I like it pronounced tob-e-as I think it rolls of the tongue easier than tob-I-as


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Kasey Mcquitty | 16 comments I like the name Four better, but i think that Tobias was the better character of the two.


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Erin Vastag So here are my thoughts now. I like Four for divergent and insurgent,but in allegiant I like tobias better because you are reading from his point of view. It more personal and truly him, so Tobias is better.


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Guia (guialovescandy) | 6 comments Tobias. It's such a cute name. If he was my boyfriend, I'd definitely call him Tobias. I love how it rolls out of my tongue. Tobias. Tobias. Tobias. I can just say the name all day. Tobias just seems more intimate, and affectionate. So sweet.


Abigail | 290 comments I think only Tris should call him Tobias. Plus Four is more hot and mysterious, so Four


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readeraz (zoethereader) | 405 comments Abigail wrote: "I think only Tris should call him Tobias. Plus Four is more hot and mysterious, so Four"

I agree with this statement


message 176: by Erin (new) - rated it 5 stars

Erin Vastag Definitely think only Tris should call him Tobias. Plus he was four first so that is what I always call him when I talk about him. (which is alot)


ʟ ᴀ ᴜ ʀ ᴀ Kellie wrote: "Four. How do you pronounce Tobias? To-bye-us or Toe-bee-as?"

Neither, I think it is toe-bye-us. And I think I prefer Tobias to the name Four.


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I always think of him as Four. Never Tobias. Seems weird for his character


ʟ ᴀ ᴜ ʀ ᴀ That's the opposite for me. I mean, who would want to be a number?


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XD I don't even think of it like a number....Idk, it just seems like a regular name when pertaining to him


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readeraz (zoethereader) | 405 comments I think it would be so freaking awesome to have a number as a name. Don't get me wrong I love the name Zoe, but something about having a number as a name makes it so much more mysterious and cool.


Mistery (mistery_wl) | 56 comments I prefer Tobias.


Belle ~carry on my wayward son~ (BelleWinchester) | 134 comments I think of him as both. It depends on the situation but yeah, i cant choose one XD


Mistery (mistery_wl) | 56 comments Belle wrote: "I think of him as both. It depends on the situation but yeah, i cant choose one XD"

The two names are very nice.


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Pranavii | 2 comments I have to say I love the name Four just because it has an air of mystery to it and background. It makes the character more of a bad boy.


Christina | 13 comments Four is the name that makes him mysterious and tough. Tobias seems like the sweeter side of him, in which tris should be the only one who is allowed to call him that. <4


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Zara (zahraalghurani) | 91 comments ^ that, is perfect.


Máiréad (mod2000) | 7 comments I love the name Tobais!


Máiréad (mod2000) | 7 comments Tobias*


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Emma Tobias: a very special part of his life that only tris should know

Four: a tough, strong guy who everyone else should know


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Emma Thanks very much...I am that cool...


message 192: by Sarah (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sarah (sassafras88) Four. Tris and Four work best together as partners. Four is an amazing fighter and Tris has an extremely analytic (Divergent) mind.

When it's Tobias, he shows his vulnerability and it's sweet, but they are both so intense and extreme that they clash a lot over small things if they don't agree.

While I Tobias is still freaking fantastic, whenever Tobias sticks around for too long, they end up fighting. Also, I think Tris is kind of needy. Not in a sense of clinginess, but that Four is there more for her than she is for him. I think she even mentions something along those lines in Allegiant.

When they are both fighting the connect to one wavelength and can tell what the other is thinking/doing and is always ready to help. Just like with the Dauntless Simulation and other fight scenes.


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I like both but Four better. Four and Tris work better together. Four is strong and mysterious when Tobias is sweet and sensible.


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i like both but in the correct situation for example I think tobias is only when he and tris are alone and four works very well when he's being the leader


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Tobias. And, Toe-Bye-us.


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Rhma Almomen (rhmaalmomen) Four is more suitable for a man . It means that he is more strong than you can imagine , more mysterious , and that his personality is like an ocean , in need to be discovered .


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Nithya | 77 comments I really can't decide which. I mean if I call him Tobias I feel as if tris only has the right to call him that. But on the other side Four isn't really who he is, it's only a small part of him and will forever be.
I think I fell in love with Tobias but then again I really don't know what to think.
#fourtris4eva


➳Halina➳ Tobias... When he's Four, he's acting: it's not really him. Tobias is a real person that is not afraid to be afraid (lol that sounds so weird). He is also the person that Tris got to know more. Plus he was so sweet and sensitive. (Most of the time.)


message 199: by Lucy (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lucy FOUR!tobias is the weak side of him.


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Renée Muñoz (reneebriannemunoz) | 21 comments Tobias, Four is the part o f him that needed to be invisible in order to live and survive. Tobias is the person he truely is, he just needed some time to grow


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