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Fan talk > Tobias or Four?

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Kaylah Eiramenna Carrell (wearebutdustandshadow) | 32 comments I like Tobias, because it represents his troubled past, one that he has overcome in many ways((:


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Stormy :) (Stormy0218) | 1043 comments Exactly, the name Tobias truly embodies who he really is.


Kaylah Eiramenna Carrell (wearebutdustandshadow) | 32 comments Yeah!!! and I think its events better that he only wants Tris calling him by it like she's the only one aloud to see him as he is.(:


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Stormy :) (Stormy0218) | 1043 comments Yes, precisely! Tris is the only person he's ever been able to open up to before. So it makes their connection even more powerful by him revealing that part of him to her. But also, it was frustrating in Insurgent when Tris would have a tantrum and start calling Tobias, "Four". It's like chill out and don't use that name against him!


Kaylah Eiramenna Carrell (wearebutdustandshadow) | 32 comments really?! I haven't read Insurgent yet..in fact I just got it from the mail two seconds ago(:


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Stormy :) (Stormy0218) | 1043 comments Insurgent is a good read, however Divergent is a lot better. It's still a very good book though!


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A I liked Insurgent more


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Stormy :) (Stormy0218) | 1043 comments Tris' character just really annoyed me throughout the novel. All of the lying and arguments between her and Four was very annoying. I really hope their relationship improves in Allegiant


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Four because it is mysterious and makes you wonder about him and why that's his name. Tobias is more proper and I guess I just like the meaning behind four better too.


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Emilea | 5 comments Gracie wrote: "I think both names are great. I like that Tobias went by Four, and was brave enough to tell Tris (Beatrice) that his real name was Tobias, and show her his fear landscape. That, was true bravery. B..."

I agree because you didn't really know him until he became Tobias


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Stormy :) (Stormy0218) | 1043 comments Yes. At the beginning Four seems super invincible and such but then as the story progresses you see that vulnerability in him and the selflessness start to slip in.


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Luz | 10 comments Four! It adds a touch of class and mysterious ness


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Amina Kollere (goodreadscomninna) | 20 comments Four!!! Tobias sounds soo Abnegation and even though he is abnegation born, his character is far from abnegation. Four is more dauntless and I love that about him.


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Stormy :) (Stormy0218) | 1043 comments He's a mixture of both. But he is the old kind of dauntless, not the thrill rider people who run the faction run Tris joins.


Tiffanie (tiffanie_s) | 16 comments Four makes him seem more powerful but Tobias makes him sound more down to Earth I guess. I like both :)


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Hannah | 73 comments I like both but since four was his name at the beginning of the book I naturally would say four


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Joshua (fignewto) | 56 comments Four, without a doubt. When you hear it, you know there must an awesome story behind it.


Francesca Caruso | 26 comments Four <3


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Julia | 4 comments Tobias because I think it show the side of him that not many get to see


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Sofía Baltazar | 2 comments Four :D


Allison Janezic (allilj) | 94 comments I like Four. Just because it has some mystery to it. But that is all in my head. LOLOLOLOL There is a WHOLE lot to Tobias we don't know. ;D


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Ishbel | 484 comments I think both of his names give you an idea about what he's like as a person. The name Four is a rebellious and mysterious and 'tough guy' name, which is how he sometimes comes across, but Tobias seems like a softer name and it shows you the side of him that was damaged by Marcus and the way he is with Tris, the softer side of him. So, I like both names, but, if I had to choose, I would go with Tobias, I like that side of him better. :)


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I like his name tobias!!!and I really like him!!


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Ishbel | 484 comments Same!!


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Stormy :) (Stormy0218) | 1043 comments In normal conversation I used the name Tobias because that's who I believe he truly is. Four is just a mask, the outside layer of him. But Tobias is who he truly is.


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Eshana (eshanareads) | 30 comments Four mysterious




























Blahhhhhh


Abigail | 290 comments I love both. But I like Four a bit more cause its sort hot and mysterious...then I like Tobias cause it's the real, sweet him.


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Megan (chlorinated8) four. only Tris can call him Tobias.


Abigail | 290 comments Ya! It's like their special thing. Except for when she's mad at him...that's just annoying


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Omar (legaltheft) Four!


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Annie Duong | 3 comments I think four is a cooler name than Tobias


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Hannah Kim (hkkim22) | 4 comments Four


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readeraz (zoethereader) | 405 comments Four. The entire time I read divergent all I could think is "Wow that is SO hot. Such a mystery!!" <3


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RedNerdMonkey | 5 comments Four is way awesome when you read it and say it out loud.. tobias is only cool when you read it.. maybe im crazy (anyone have this too)


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Sandra Klasson (sandraklasson) I like four as well but Tobias because it's what - in the beginning - he only told Tris which made it more personal and we readers are verey close to him. Therefor I like Tobias better :)


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Erin Vastag Four definitely!!!! It sounds so mysterious.


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Taylor | 35 comments Four :)


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Leahxx (heyitsleahxx) | 12 comments Four, but I'm more indifferent than anything. Both are great and I love the idea that only people really close to him know him as Tobias, but Four is such a badass name haha


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Emilea | 5 comments Erin wrote: "Four definitely!!!! It sounds so mysterious."

But that's just it though, it makes him more mysterious until he tells her what his real name is and I think that when Four told Tris his real name that was when she really knew that they really do love eachother.


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Erin Vastag I agree with you Emilea. What I meant before is that Four was good in the first book and maybe the second. I just finished Allegiant and Tobias is so right in that book. The more Tris and Tobias learn about each other, the more right Tobias seems.


Kaitlyn &#x1f3b6; | 509 comments I like Tobias better because it is not his dauntless nickname it shows more of who he his and I love the unqunice


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Saba Mahmoudi | 3 comments four It fits his character better


The Life Of A Firefly (thelifeofafirefly) | 296 comments I actually like both his names although four does seem to fit better because that's what we knew him as first but tobias is also good


Abigail | 290 comments I like four better cause it's all mysterious and hot.

But then Tobias is the real him but that's why only tris should be able to call him that.


cozynickytea  (nickyr28) | 5 comments Four


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Majo (mary_avina) | 5 comments Tobias!!!!

If I had a son I would name him Tobias, I think is great name.

But . . . <4


Savannah (trisiparis) | 46 comments TOBIAS!


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