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Heroes that You Just Can't Stand!
Lady D, I don't like Gray Rouillard too! Also Rome from Sarah's Child. As for Diana Palmer, I think I will always have love-hate (mostly hate) relationship with her heroes. I mean, is she can make a likable hero?
I don't like Christian Grey. LOL, sorry for all his fans. I just don't know what appeal he had. Maybe because I had read plenty books with tortured heroes, I consider him as tame.
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Yeah, Rome was a jackwagon too. Thanks for reminding me!
I agree with Ren.. Christian Grey.. I am biased though, I didnt like the heroine (or the books) either :)
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*silently sobbing* I like Gray! He is sexy and possessive in all ways caveman-ish. LOL
On Christian Grey..... I most passionately agree. Pretty boy with a semi-baked sob story, direly lacking doormats (Read: Ms. Steele)
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I didn't care for Gray either, probably not the hate you guys are feeling... but he annoyed me.Never read SoG but from everything I heard about the story, I think I wouldn't like Christian either.
I didn't like Dominic from Dark Peril. He was too controlling and it bothered me... a lot.
Also didn't care for Zarek from Dance with the Devil. I know he went through a lot but thought he just needed to grow up and let it go.
Okay. I didn't finish this book but that's b/c I couldn't stand the hero in it. He seemed too, I don't know, sleazy to me. It's Nolan from To the Edge.
I didn't like Luke Stark (gasp!) from the Rock Chick books. I loved all the other Hot Bunch Guys but I didn't like how Luke went after both Roxie and Jules before he ended up with Ava. It felt like he just tried it on with everyone and ended up with Ava because she said yes.I also didn't really care for Tack from Motorcycle Man (double gasp!). I know, I know, but he just seemed a little bit.... icky to me. Eww especially that yucky room at the compound.
I have absolutely no complaints about Christian Grey though. LOVED him :-)
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Lhethal, I'm sorry. I don't find Gray sexy at all. But to each his own. Plenty agree with you on him, but I can't feel it for him.
So what characteristics make a hero someone you can't stand?
My main issue is how they treat the heroine and women in general. If they treat women like disposable trash, I am going to dislike them. And a high sleazy vibe drives down the hero like factor for me as well.
Cherrie, I agree with you completely about Tack. Add the goatee to that an the eww factor doubles. I really don't beards/stashes. I tried to ignore Tack's every time it was mentioned.Lady D, what you mentioned is pretty much the main issues with me too. Also, I dislike when they're too controlling. They can be the typical alpha male but at the same time shouldn't suppress the girl.
I also don't like beard or mustache, obviously... but I try to pretend that doesn't exist when reading.
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Stefanie, my dad was pretty indifferent to us, and we were raised mainly by my mother, but I think that is part of why I don't like bossy/controlling guys. Interesting we both feel that way but for different reasons.
I'm not real fond of facial hair. Vishous from the BDB is one of the main heroes with facial hair I like. I usually imagine my heroes clean-shaved.
I haven't read After the Night but with all this talk about Gray I just added it to my "To Read" shelf. I'm hoping I like him, I'll let you all know.
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@Cherrie I also didn't really care for Tack from Motorcycle Man (double gasp!). I know, I know, but he just seemed a little bit.... icky to me. Eww especially that yucky room at the compound.( ...running for cover....) I didn't really like him either and yeah that room !?! I did end up liking him by the end of the book but the beginning....I kept wondering why people kept recommending it to me?!?
I haven't read Luke's book yet - so no comment
@LadyD : OMG! And I think Jordan Powell and Garon Grier are the worst!@Lhetal : Aww, sorry for Gray ^^. My friends love him too, mostly because he have 3H (Hard, Hot and Hairy), lol!
To answer LadyD , I don't like when the hero is too controlling. Pretty much the same with mostly ladies here. I like them alpha, but no if they do something horrible to the heroine, or have abusive streak. That's why I don't like forced seduction theme. I always think that Stockholm syndrome is just an excuse, to let the sexual and mental abuse to woman and make it turn into love instead.
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I have to admit, I don't mind forced seduction. I guess it depends on the way it's written. In real life, I totally agree there is no such thing. Rape is rape. in a literary setting, I can deal with some scenarios depending on the execution. I totally respect where you are coming from and I do hate abusive heroes otherwise.
Lady Danielle aka The Book Huntress wrote: "Kryptonite, I agree. I can't stand controlling heroes. Stefanie, my dad was pretty indifferent to us, and we were raised mainly by my mother, but I think that is part of why I don't like bossy/controlling guys. Interesting we both feel that way but for different reasons. "
To add a different perspective: My father and mother both were very much involved in raising us. I’m fortunate to have wonderful parents. For me I think my dislike for too bossy/controlling guys stems from the fact that I’m a very independent person. And to be controlled would be going against myself. And since neither of my parents were controlling raising us, it's not something I'm used to.
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Heroes I can't stand?I think they would have to be Christian Grey and Gideon Cross. I also can't really stand Travis Maddox either. He's soooooo emotional and dysfunctional.
Ashley - I agree with you about Gideon Cross, I can't stand him. I do love Christian though.
I am going to disagree on Tack. To each his own but he can have crackers in my bed. I agree with Luke stark, and Christian gray. I was disappointed with Christian because of the build up of the book in the press and then he was more of a douche bag instead of an alpha.
Pamela(AllHoney) wrote: "I am another who can't stand Gray from After The Night. He just rubbed me the wrong way. I liked the book itself though. I normally don't when I find a book with a jerk in it. I also didn't like Cl..."Paradise Wild is one of my least favorite book of all time because both the h and H were awful people.
Deuce from Undeniable is someone I didn't like. Skeezy. He meets her when he is 23 and she is 5. And then molests?? Her when she is 16 and he is in his 30's. Ick.
I got two that are on everyone's favorite book boyfriend but leave me just thinking, "WTF?"Jesse from
is just so needy, his dominating just comes of as weak and insecure to me. this series is not helped by Ava being the worst heroine ever. Tony from
such an unredeemable asshole in my opinion. It's not the subject matter because I don't mind Caleb from
. I kept hoping someone would kill him at some point.
@Sandra.......oh most definitely Deuce. What a piece of misogynistic crap he was. Hated him, hated the book.
The De La Cruz brothers from Christine Feehan's Dark series. The define the definition of alphahole.
Donovan Caine in
- holier than thou, judgemental, self-righteous prick. My blood pressure is going up just thinking about him and NOT in a good way, lol!
Hawk from
. Plus the heroine and a large chunk of the characters from there.
Lisa - (Aussie Girl) wrote: "The De La Cruz brothers from Christine Feehan's Dark series. The define the definition of alphahole."I hate the Carpathians also. I never liked how the girls really don't have much of a choice.
Seth Mackey from
. I didn't like the heroine either in this book. Seth was a GIANT goober, IMO. He was always forcing himself on the heroine instead of talking about their issues. There were times when I felt like he was almost raping her. The "bad guy" in this book was more redeemable than he was.Also, Rydstrom Woede from
. While I loved this series this one was my least favorite because I could get over what a hypocritical douchenozzle Rydstrom was. He was horrible to his brother and since I LOVE Cade. I had a hard time warming up to him in this book.
Jessica wrote: "Seth Mackey from . I didn't like the heroine either in this book. Seth was a GIANT goober, IMO. He was always forcing himself on the heroine instead of talking..."Yes, Seth was definitely on the stalker side of things. I actually liked the minor villain in that book.
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Tiago from Thea Harrison's books. Ugh!!!And another character I've only recently begun to dislike that I don't have the courage to name because he used to be so beloved. Until recently.
Nick from Dark Hunter series would be my first choice. I won't even consider reading YA series about him.
Morana wrote: "Nick from Dark Hunter series would be my first choice. I won't even consider reading YA series about him."Morana, I love the Dark Hunter series and tried to venture into YA to follow Nick's story. The books are horrible IMO, and Nick 2.0 is just annoying.
Paganalexandria wrote: "Morana wrote: "Nick from Dark Hunter series would be my first choice. I won't even consider reading YA series about him."Morana, I love the Dark Hunter series and tried to venture into YA to foll..."
I love the series too. A lot. Except Nick. :)
Morana wrote: "Nick from Dark Hunter series would be my first choice. I won't even consider reading YA series about him."See I read the YA first and got to know him that way, so Nick is my favorite in the Dark Hunter books. But with that being said, he has been as ass for a while now.
Darcy wrote: "Morana wrote: "Nick from Dark Hunter series would be my first choice. I won't even consider reading YA series about him."See I read the YA first and got to know him that way, so Nick is my favori..."
I was thinking about that recently and it is understandable. I might have liked him if I hadn't read about the adult Nick first. Or I would have started to hate him. Who knows? :)
Morana wrote: "I was thinking about that recently and it is understandable. I might have liked him if I hadn't read about the adult Nick first. Or I would have started to hate him. Who knows? :)"That does make sense, I don't know that I would have liked him either.
What I really like about the YA ones is seeing more about Nick and his mom. I was really shocked in the Dark Hunter books because of that.
Darcy wrote: "That does make sense, I don't know that I would have liked him either.What I really like about the YA ones is seeing more about Nick and his mom. I was really shocked in the Dark Hunter books because of that. "
Yes, from what I could see from Dark Hunter books, Acheron and Nick's comments or memories, his mother would have to be a great woman.
Goge (BARRONS) le Moning Maniac, wrote: "Hawk from . Plus the heroine and a large chunk of the characters from there."
I liked Hawk but man that girl is on the top of my stupidest heroines ever list.
I don't dislike all the Carparthians, given their history I understand why they are so old fashioned and over protective of their women. The South American dudes just seemed so arrogant and unlikeable, they're the ones I really couldn't take to.
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And another character I've only recently begun to dislike that I don't have the courage to name because he used to be so beloved. Until recently."
I'm intrigued. Which hero is that?
What did you dislike about Tiago?
@Lady Danielle.....good question. I wondered about Tiago myself.
Lady Jaye wrote: "Tiago from Thea Harrison's books. Ugh!!!And another character I've only recently begun to dislike that I don't have the courage to name because he used to be so beloved. Until recently."
Okay now you have me curious, who is the other one you don't like?
I would have to say he is a character that infuriated me, if he would have done a few things differently I think the whole tone of the books would have been different. So Richard from the Anita Blake books gets my vote. I love to hate him.
Alisa wrote: "Goge (BARRONS) le Moning Maniac, wrote: "Hawk from . Plus the heroine and a large chunk of the characters from there."
I liked Hawk but man that girl is on the t..."
He's the first 'hero' I recall at the top of my head, who has ever achieved such violent and active and persistent loathing from me.
2/3I started to understand/tolerate the heroine.
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We can discuss these things cordially on the DHASG and keep things from getting personal.
The "Can an Alpha Hero be too Macho" thread had me thinking...
One hero that I can't stand, at all is Gray from After the Night. I joke that I want to hire James Diaz from Cry No More to kill him.
I can't stand JB from Heartbreaker (Long, Tall Texans) and I thought Michael from A Night to Remember was a complete sleaze.
Any heroes that you just can't stand...at all?