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message 6451: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Jim, hope you find that tank! Then take a rest!


message 6452: by Nina (new)

Nina | 6069 comments Not fun Joy but what if you lived here? It was nine degrees below zero on Sunday and next Sunday(Christmas) it is predicted to be sixty four degrees. I guess we could consider this our Christmas present.


message 6453: by Nina (new)

Nina | 6069 comments Looking for a septic tank would be way down my list of favorite things to do. Good luck.


message 6454: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Nina wrote: "Not fun Joy but what if you lived here? It was nine degrees below zero on Sunday and next Sunday(Christmas) it is predicted to be sixty four degrees. ..."

Nina, they say that variety is the spice of life. :)

"Novelty is the great parent of pleasure.” -Robert South :)


message 6455: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Nina wrote: "Looking for a septic tank would be way down my list of favorite things to do. Good luck."

It's not one of my favorite jobs either, but not cleaning the holding tank every 5 years or so means the system is more likely to clog & then it can require replacing part or most of the system. It costs under $200 to get it pumped & several thousand or more plus days or even weeks to get it repaired.

2 houses (almost 20 years) ago, we were renting & the septic clogged in the middle of the winter. It took over 2 weeks to repair it. I had to use a jack hammer with a spade blade to break up the frozen ground along the pipe & over the holding tank so the backhoe could dig it up. Tree roots had infiltrated the old stone tank & clay pipe so it all had to be dug up & replaced.

In the meantime, we had to use a port-a-pot (portable outhouse) with sleet banging against it, do dishes in buckets, wash clothes & ourselves at friends &/or my mother's. Her place was 15 miles away. We had 2 young teens & a 6 year old & lived on a farm with a stream 150' from the house. I worked as a remodeler & Marg worked part time as a groom - a lot of dishes & clothes to wash. Needless to say, that made an impression on just how important a properly working septic system is!


message 6456: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Something else to worry about!


message 6457: by Nina (new)

Nina | 6069 comments I guess you could say the lesser of two evils/cleaning and or repairing it after it is found.. Hope this happens to be finished before Christmas.


message 6458: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) I never did find the damn holding tank. Jay & Tracy, the original owners were split on where they thought it had been, so I started probing about 9am this morning. Then I dug & probed. Then I borrowed the neighbor's little backhoe so I could trench & probe. Jesse, the septic cleaning guy came by & helped for over 30 minutes, but about 1pm I finally gave up & started filling in holes. We're hoping the health department has a sketch from the inspection.

It was a long, cold morning. If the real world handed out A's for effort, I'd get one, but the damn tank is still lost & I didn't even get lunch until 2pm & now I'm really tired.


message 6459: by Joy H., Group Founder (last edited Dec 22, 2016 01:30PM) (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Jim, Eddie says that septic tanks are usually placed near where the exit pipes come out from the house. Isn't this the case with the newly bought house you're working on?

He also says that their not very deep down.


message 6460: by Nina (new)

Nina | 6069 comments Good quotes Joy. "There is no path to Happpiness. Happiness is the Path." Gautama Budda


message 6461: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Nina wrote: "Good quotes Joy. "There is no path to Happpiness. Happiness is the Path." Gautama Budda"

That's another good one, Nina.

"Happiness is a direction, not a place." ---Sydney J. Harris

We have to be sure we're going in the right direction.

"You've got to think about big things while you're doing small things, so that all the small things go in the right direction." ---Alvin Toffler


message 6462: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Joy H. wrote: "Jim, Eddie says that septic tanks are usually placed near where the exit pipes come out from the house. Isn't this the case with the newly bought house you're working on?

He also says that their n..."


Thank Eddie for me, Joy. I appreciate the ideas, but I've installed, found, & dug up a number over the years & do know most of the tricks. So does Jesse, the guy that cleans my tank. We're both stumped.

It's probably just really deep, hence the trenches with the backhoe so we could get down another couple of feet to bury a 3' probe to the hilt. Not an easy job in this clay. We must have poked 1000 holes with the probes, plus I'd dug numerous holes & a few dozen feet of trenches in likely areas. The lagoon (no drain fields on this side of the road) is several hundred yards behind the house in the woods. The cleanout is obvious, but the Y is over 3' deep.

As for the depth of the tank, that's a function of the fall of the pipe between where it comes out of the house & enters the lagoon. The pipes enter & leave about a foot down from the top. Roger, who has the property south of the kids & whose backhoe I borrowed, had his tank put in by the same company that did mine & the kids'. The top of his tank was over 5' deep even though there's a lot of fall between his house & the lagoon. Mine is only about 8" down, a more normal depth.

I'd think with those clues we could have found it. I was wrong.


message 6463: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Jim, I'll read your post to Eddie. I think he made it sound easier than it is! :) Let us know when you solve the mystery of the whereabouts of the tank. It's a good thing the awful "stuff" knows where it is! lol


message 6464: by Nina (new)

Nina | 6069 comments I remember reading long ago Alvin Toffler's "Future Shock." And it was a good book.


message 6465: by John (new)

John | 14 comments Hi Joy and all Group Members,

I just wanted to wish all of you a joyous holiday season.

Years ago I wrote a holiday song—a musical Christmas card, if you will--called “The Spirit of Christmas.” I just wanted to share it with you during this special season.

All the best

--John

Here’s the video link:
https://youtu.be/n8zYJKEr5BU


message 6466: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Nina wrote: "I remember reading long ago Alvin Toffler's "Future Shock." And it was a good book."

Very good. I read it not too long after it was published as a teen. I still remember how he broke down our history into lifetimes. 50,000 years was/is fairly distant & incomprehensible, but 800 lifetimes laid end to end made our timeline far more immediate & understandable. It also taught me a general & very important lesson in dealing with large numbers.


message 6467: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments John wrote: "Hi Joy and all Group Members,
I just wanted to wish all of you a joyous holiday season.
Years ago I wrote a holiday song—a musical Christmas card, if you will--called “The Spirit of Christmas.” I..."


Merry Christmas, John. Thanks for the musical Christmas card. It was very pretty! Enjoy the holiday!


message 6468: by Joy H., Group Founder (last edited Dec 23, 2016 06:48PM) (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Nina wrote: "I remember reading long ago Alvin Toffler's "Future Shock." And it was a good book."

Nina, all I remember about Future Shock was the part about the little girl who went on an errand and couldn't find the building. When she returned home, instead of saying she couldn't find the building, she matter-of-factly stated that the building had been demolished. In other words, the demolishing of buildings will be nothing new to young people in the future. In fact, it will be a common occurrence.


message 6469: by Nina (new)

Nina | 6069 comments Unfortunately it came true.


message 6471: by Nina (new)

Nina | 6069 comments Joy, that was a good summary in the NYT about Jackie K's interest in saving the Grand Central. Sometimes I think it is my age that I come across written things that aren't really wrong but not quite right; thus, it is mentioned in the article that the drama program, "Grand Central Station," was even listened to by the 1940's. In reality it was the 1930's when it really originated as I used to listen to it as a child then. Maybe it was still on the radio in the forties but as I said they didn't get it quite right. That's what comes from being older than those writers out there that don't bother to check. Even Pultizer Prize winners like David McCullough.


message 6472: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) We had a pretty good Xmas. It's pretty much another day to me now that the kids are grown & gone. We did have Josh & Erin around half the day, but I started out like any Sunday morning by calling my mother at about 5am. She was out trying to get the horses in, so we kept it short & I got the bills done, then went out to the shop for a few hours. The kids came by & we opened presents.

I got a Nerf 6 shooter & a USB camera pinhole camera with a 16' cable. I just hooked it up to a cheap Win10 laptop here at work & it worked immediately with the camera app. It should be really handy. Best of all, I didn't have to go down to the kids' house & do any work at all. That's a first for weeks.

We phoned the boys & some other family, but I spent most of the day out in the shop working on Inkle loom designs. I've worked out one really good, simple one. I'm still fiddling with a couple of other designs. Won't know for sure how well they work until a couple of weavers spend some time with them, though.


message 6473: by Nina (new)

Nina | 6069 comments Did you ever find the septic tank?


message 6474: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Nina wrote: "Did you ever find the septic tank?"

No, as I wrote earlier, we're waiting until Erin can get to the Health Dept to see if there is a drawing with the permit. No sense digging more blindly if we can get any dimensions from them. Unfortunately, they're closed today & only open for an hour each weekday morning. Not sure why.

I did take my tractor down there tonight & pick up the end of Josh's shop a little & shim it up. It's one of those 14'x36' prefab garages & it was all my front end loader could do to pry it up a couple of inches, but it did it. Now the window on that end moves easily & can close. I also graded the path for the back yard fence which dips down into the woods where it runs into my fence on the west side. The ground was too wet for good grading, but there was a big, old stump in the way that I tore out plus a lot of brush, so we have a clear path now.


message 6475: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Today only, Amazon has 80% off GoodRead's Choice Award books for the Kindle.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/browse.html...


message 6476: by Nina (new)

Nina | 6069 comments A quote I like, "We are the choices we make," Sarte


message 6477: by Joy H., Group Founder (last edited Dec 27, 2016 02:17PM) (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Nina wrote: "Joy, that was a good summary in the NYT about Jackie K's interest in saving the Grand Central. Sometimes I think it is my age that I come across written things that aren't really wrong but not quit..."

I remember that radio program years ago. I still remember the opening fanfare:
"Grand Central Station! The crossroads of a million private lives, a gigantic stage on which are played a thousand dramas daily."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_C...
"Grand Central Station was an American anthology radio series which had a long run on the major networks from 1937 to 1954. ... the story content ranged from romantic comedies to lightweight dramas."

"Grand Central was (and is) actually a "Terminal," not a "Station".


message 6478: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Jim wrote: "We had a pretty good Xmas. It's pretty much another day to me now that the kids are grown & gone. We did have Josh & Erin around half the day, but I started out like any Sunday morning by calling m..."

Glad you had a good Christmas, Jim. We did too. The kids were here and we enjoyed their visit. But it's always a letdown after they leave.


message 6479: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Jim wrote: "Today only, Amazon has 80% off GoodRead's Choice Award books for the Kindle.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/browse.html..."


Thanks for the link, Jim. I'll take a look at it.


message 6480: by Nina (new)

Nina | 6069 comments I think there is definitely a let down after Christmas which is why I only take down part of my decoration. That way I can still "think" Christmas at odd times in the day. My husband put the train he bought for the new baby/three months old/ on top of our covered hot tub and that baby would look and look and move his head. His parents were amazed and he seemed to love looking at it going round and round and the other great grandchild who was two yesterday so loved her soft pink pajamas she tried to take her clothes off so she could put them on. Everyone I gave the Family Picture Album to said it was their favorite gift. In our family several of the first cousins have never seen one another so this is a clue to what they all look like. All in all a satisfying holiday.


message 6481: by Nina (new)

Nina | 6069 comments Thanks Jim for the Kindle link


message 6482: by Nina (new)

Nina | 6069 comments I listened to Grand Central Station that came on after Let's Pretend; two of my favorite radio shows after Little Orphan Annie.


message 6483: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Nina wrote: "I listened to Grand Central Station that came on after Let's Pretend; two of my favorite radio shows after Little Orphan Annie."

Those were the days, Nina. Little did we know what was coming... with TV and then the Internet!


message 6484: by Nina (new)

Nina | 6069 comments Did you ever listen to "The Shadow Knows?"


message 6485: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) I have quite a few of the old Shadow programs, even a cassette with several episodes on it. They're probably available for free on Archive.org. They have a lot of the old time radio programs there. I even got all the X-minus One shows there.


message 6486: by Nina (new)

Nina | 6069 comments That's good info Jim. Can you believe as a little girl I was really scared when I listened to that program.


message 6487: by Joy H., Group Founder (last edited Dec 28, 2016 05:35PM) (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments I too remember the Shadow! That's going way back!
Was that the one with the squeaking door?


message 6488: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) I can believe it, Nina. The Shadow could be pretty creepy.

You can stream the programs directly from their site, if you want. This is the link:
https://archive.org/details/oldtimeradio

One of my favorites is "the Six Shooter" starring James Stewart. I reviewed several episodes here:
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

I reviewed a bunch of different OTR programs here:
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...


message 6489: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Thanks for the OTR links, Jim!


message 6490: by Nina (new)

Nina | 6069 comments Thank you Jim. I will certainly check those sites out.


message 6491: by Nina (new)

Nina | 6069 comments Did you ever watch on TV Upstairs, Downstairs or the Jackie Gleason show or the Dick Van Dyke series? My kids loved Red Skelton, Mary Tyler Moore and Davy Crickett..


message 6492: by Joy H., Group Founder (last edited Dec 28, 2016 07:05PM) (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Yes, Nina, we watched all of those... some of those were when we had to get up to change the channel. :)

Don't forget the Sid Caesar show! And Steve Allen!


message 6493: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) I remember watching most of those at one time or another. We didn't watch much TV back then, though. The Jackie Gleason show was one we always tried to catch.


message 6494: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Yes, the Jackie Gleason show was a big favorite.

We haven't mentioned The Horn and Hardart Children's Hour . I used to watch it at my friend's house. Kids from all around the neighborhood gathered there to watch it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hor...
"Launched on Oct 31, 1927... later aired on NBC Radio in New York City during the 1940s and 1950s... The television premiere was ... in 1948... Horn and Hardart's slogan was "Less work for mother..."

I can still hear that in my head! (Couldn't find it at YouTube or on the radio online. I guess there is no radio audio or video of it available.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horn_%2...
"Horn & Hardart was a food services company... noted for operating the first food service automats in Philadelphia and New York City."

My mom used to take us there in NYC.

YouTube re the Automat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zrbyq...


message 6495: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments PS-Here's a scene showing the automat from a 1962 movie with Doris Day ("THAT TOUCH OF MINK")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTqjO...


message 6496: by Nina (new)

Nina | 6069 comments Fun to see the Automat but never actually heard of The Horn ...Maybe it wasn't shown here.


message 6497: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Nina wrote: "Fun to see the Automat but never actually heard of The Horn ...Maybe it wasn't shown here."

Nina, the "Horn and Hardart Children's Hour" was among the very first TV shows I used to watch, thanks to the fact that my friend had a TV. :)
Perhaps it was a local show. Wiki mentions NYC and Philadelphia.


message 6498: by Nina (new)

Nina | 6069 comments Did you watch "Those Were the Days?'


message 6499: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Nina wrote: "Did you watch "Those Were the Days?'"

Was that a movie, Nina?


message 6500: by Joy H., Group Founder (last edited Dec 29, 2016 08:22PM) (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Nina wrote: "Did you watch "Those Were the Days?'"

PS - Nina, if you mean the 1940 movie with William Holden, no, I didn't see it.
"Those Were the Days!" (1940)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033155/?...
Did YOU see it?


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