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What are U doing today? (Ongoing thread)

Mary JL, I guess it's as hot in Nebraska as it is in Nina's state of Kansas!
BTW, I had to look on the map just now to see where Nebraska is in relation to Kansas. I see that it's north of Kansas. Somehow I never could get the location of those middle-US-states straight in my mind. Hate to admit it, but that's the truth. :)

I finally swept it into a corner & it landed on a high shelf that holds a speaker. I grabbed it & carried it outside in the palm of my hand. It was sprawled there with its wings held stiffly out to either side, as if in shock. I left my hand open & was reaching for my camera when it suddenly took off & flew straight up in the air until it was out of sight. I hope it lived.
Storms came in an hour later & we got 2 drenching rains of short duration, but the temperature dropped 10 degrees in 15 minutes & we got about 1/4" of rain by the time I went to bed. I heard more storms at night & woke up as the power flickered a few times. This morning, we had 2" more rain & my drive to work was slow because of it. Yay!!!

Hope the little hummingbird survived! It must have been awesome to hold it in your hand.


Yes, Linda, I've read about hummingbirds fighting over their feeding territory. Feisty little things! :)


Werner, glad to hear you came through the operation OK. Hope you'll be back to normal soon. Hope you'll be able to distract yourself with a good book or movie!
I find that FunTrivia.com is a great distraction for me. Once I get involved there, all my arthritis pains disappear. :) Of course, it takes away from my reading time, but it's nice to have lots of options. When I get tired of one, I go to the other. :)


THEN he called a bee keeper who said he had ruined any value of the bees. Apparently spraying them or doing anything ruins them, so if you get a swarm around your house, call a bee keeper immediately. Don't mess with them at all. They're endangered & local bee keepers are happy to come get them, but not if you've messed them up.

Jim, that's was an unusual experience. What a problem! Thanks for the good advice about bees. Out of curiousity, I searched online for a local bee keeper. All I found was the following:
"BRSR: Bee Rescue Swarm Removal" : http://brsr.org/
As for the problems caused by animals and creatures in chimneys, I remember that my MIL once had a nest of racoons in her chimney. I can't remember what she did about it but she didn't start a fire. :) My guess is that she heard them and called someone who could help her.

It's such a badly misunderstood phenomenon. SWARMS DO NOT STING!!!! They are in a pack, seeking to find a new place to settle, and they only have about 3 days to do it before they die. (That's as much honey as they can eat before they go). They have NO TERRITORY TO DEFEND, and will not sting. Even if you knock them off their branch - they will just regroup. DO NOT SMOKE THEM. This disrupts their pheromone based awareness of their queen, and SHE is what holds them together. Scary as they look, the swarm will not attack you!!!
Call the bee keeper & LEAVE THEM ALONE, they will move on and find a suitable home - they don't want to stay in the opening, and they will leave ASAP when their scouts find a safe place to go.
If a storm threatens, GIVE THEM A HOLLOW BOX WITH AN OPENING, even a 50 gallon drum - they will often go in if you bang on it - the hollow sound tells them there is a cavity. If they take shelter in the box, it can then be moved by a bee keeper - your local agricultural extension may be able to help find one, or search on the internet for a local bee club - there are hobbyists everywhere.

It's such a badly misunderstood phenomenon. SWARMS DO NOT STING!!!! They are in a pack, seeking to find a new place to settle, an..."
Good advice, Jim. Thank you.
How about wasps? We have them around our deck.

LOL - I do too!
PS - "The term wasp is typically defined as any insect of the order Hymenoptera and suborder Apocrita that is neither a bee nor an ant."[FROM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasps ]

I wasn't following this at all but you made me curious.
So I did a google search and found the following:
"NASA’s Curiosity rover lands on Mars after 352-million mile journey"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/busines...
"Tonight, on the planet Mars, the United States of America made history."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08...
"'Mars landing went 'flawlessly,' scientists say"
http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/06/tech/ma...
"Rover Probes Secrets of Mars
Perfect Landing Launches Search for Past Life, but Future of Missions Is Murky."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000...
"Curiosity's mysterious Mars photo stirs speculation.
A photo of Mars taken by Curiosity shows what might be the NASA rover's spacecraft crash-landing in the distance. If so, it 'would be an insane coincidence,' one engineer says." http://www.latimes.com/news/science/l...
"NASA's most advanced Mars rover Curiosity has landed on the Red Planet."
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/msl...
"Seven rovers have been sent to Mars."
See names and dates below:
1. 1971 - Mars 2
2. 1971 - Mars 3
3. 1997 - Sojourner rover, Mars Pathfinder
4. 2003 - Beagle 2
5. 2004 - Spirit (MER-A), Mars Exploration Rover
6. 2004 - Opportunity (MER-B)
7. 2011-2012 - Curiosity, Mars Science Laboratory
("It was launched November 26, 2011 and landed in the Aeolis Palus plain near Aeolis Mons (formerly "Mount Sharp") in Gale Crater on August 6, 2012.")
FROM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_rover

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Jim, is so adorable! I've heard of "doll houses" but not "horse houses". LOL What a great idea! Did you think it up yourself or are there such things as miniature barns?
The little gate, the fencing, and the tack are so cute. I love miniatures of anything. That is surely a labor of love.
Where are the miniature horses? :)
PS-The fencing reminds me of the little fence around our Christmas creche. It was once part of my parent's creche. It's made of tiny twigs and tacked together with tiny nails. Here's a pic of it:



I had to look up "Breyer horses". Had never heard of them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breyer_H...
Interesting!
Go take a nap and sleep off that wonderful meal.
All we had was pizza (store-bought frozen pizza)! :)

These gardens are steep areas that I didn't want to mow, so I planted a hodge-podge of flowers in. The one below my shop has forsythia at the top & 6 or 8 red bud trees in it. While much of the top is carpeted with loriope, the bottom half is full of lilies, bee balm, black-eyed susans & more. One end has an odd fern-like plant that a neighbor gave me. Basically, it's a bunch of very tough, almost invasive flowers that keep the weeds choked out. Today I needed to pull the dead lily flower stems, cone flower & black-eyed susan seed pods out plus do a bit of weeding.
It took most of the day, but I collected a 5 gallon bucket full of seed heads. I'm going to spread them along the road bank in other areas that I don't want to mow. I have a couple of small places & then a big bank along the south east side plus I'm spreading both gardens out a bit further. They don't take much maintenance, just a day or two a year & they look really pretty most of the year.
When I got tired of gardening, I did a few other chores. The goats needed some attention & to have their feet trimmed, so Lily & I went out to do that. Blue, Marg's old horse, decided to 'help' me. He's in his mid 20's & pretty much retired now, but still a real character.
I tie the goats to the boards between the run-in & grooming areas. He came in & 'helped' me by reaching over the fence, pulling off my straw hat & playing tag with the other goat. Then he dropped it & started playing tongue tag. Basically he flicked his tongue at whatever parts of me he could get. Since I was kneeling with a very sharp pair of sheers in one hand & a goat hoof in the other, all I could do was growl at him. So then he'd chew on my hair or shirt like one of the goats. He was bored since the others are all locked up for the day, so I was his entertainment.
;-)


The goat sounds like a hoot! LOL
Here's a nice-looking Breyer horse:
http://www.breyerhorses.com/sapphire
Did you see my PS with the pic of the fence made of twigs? (Message #3223)

;-)
Seriously, I don't even have to toss much manure on most places. I chose plants that are almost weeds in their own right. Not everything I plant makes it, but everything I keep around is hardy & likes it.


As for hardy plants, even the hardy Black-Eyed-Susans don't make it in our yard! Any other suggestions for hardy weeds? :)
For a while our Gaillardia kept coming back each year but then it disappeared. I currently have some in a pot but they won't bloom. Wiki says: "They will grow under very harsh and dry conditions ... and will even bloom in sand along a seashore." Hmmm, maybe I water them too much.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaillardia

On a side note, our drought broke & we've had cooler weather. It was 60 this morning again with lots of dew. That seems to have rebooted a lot of plants. The Crab Apples are blooming again! I've never seen then bloom twice in a year before.
I have a couple of varieties of Primrose that do just fine. Japanese & regular Iris both do good. Hollyhocks did really well in one area for a few years, then almost died out this year due to a rust, but I have more popping up in odd places. One is in the lane, another next to the entrance of the lane in the worst kind of soil.
Marigolds reseed themselves all over & ring the Clevland Pears in the circle of the drive. I have to water them when it gets too dry. I tried Mexican Rose there this year, but it hasn't done as well as them. I have one Butterfly Plant that prospered, but the rest died out.
I have lots of varieties of lilies, too. They all seem to do well. The standard orange ones are what we call 'Roadside' lilies & they spread even in the goat's pen, although they never bloom there since the goats eat them. The goats won't eat the Dahlia & I have a couple of more up by the back porch that are growing nicely along with a couple of clumps of Peonies.
The south side of the house is lined with Iris up tight. Out into the yard a bit, we have lavender, lilies, bee balm & a couple of rose bushes. I forget what kind Marg gets now, but both are very tough & bloom constantly. I guess she takes special care of them. We had some at the old house that got big red roses. She didn't like them so I took care of them. That meant they got weedeated down to a couple of feet high every fall. They seemed to thrive on that abuse, although Marg said I was going to kill them.
I have 2 varieties of Black-eyed Susans. One has leaves that look just like the Gerber Daisy cone flowers. The other grows wild in the fields & is completely different except for the bloom. Both are doing well, as are the Gerber daisies.
Red Bee Balm is doing well in several areas, although the myrtle crept out from under the front porch & smothered the patch there. Purple Bee Balm also died that way, but it's never been as hardy. I have clematis growing up the corner posts & it's doing well, too. Sunflowers always seem to grow well & I have to weed out the Cosmos & move it around every spring. I've never replanted it since the first time.
I don't water anything very much, if at all. If you have any shady areas, hostas will grow in most soils. I have a dozen or so varieties. Used to have a lot more, but I lost them when we moved & we don't have much shade now.
I'm having trouble killing off the chameleon plant. That spreads like mint by underground roots & has a waxy leaf that is supposed to get neat red/white/green leaves. I had some from our neighbors in MD. They had it submerged in their fish pond & I forgot to bring any down, so we bought some to plant in the dry soil around ours. It did really well, but just stayed plain green. It doesn't smell very good & only gets occasional tiny white flowers, so I decided to kill it off. Easier said than done, even hitting it as it emerges with Round Up just seems to stunt it a bit. I had an easier time killing off the mint & anyone can tell you how tough that is.
I'm not much of a gardener. I think the trick is to just get a variety of plants & dump them in a few different areas in the spring or fall, depending on if they're an annual or perennial. Ditto with seeds. Then water transplants well for a while, but quit after a week or two. See what makes it where & adjust. I let them pack tight so I only have to weed occasionally. My gardens are kind of wild & tend to look best from a distance.

Our orange lilies (Tiger Lilies?) always do well. They come back every year. I tend to take them for granted.
I planted hosta several years ago. Only one has survived.
I have one Gerber Daisy in a pot. It has given me ONE flower so far this year! When in the direct sun, its leaves wilt. So I keep it in the shade.
I did have iris. Didn't notice this year if they came up or not.
We can't even grow mint! LOL
But we have chives which come up every year.
I found the following Wiki sites for the chameleon plant:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ixia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houttuyn...
I suppose I should give them a try.
We have roses which bloom even though we don't feed them. They are scrawny looking plants which I sent for years ago from a catalog because they were supposed to grow into large hedges. Ha! No hedges here. But the few roses which do bloom are beautiful!

Tiger lilies have spots or stripes in their orange bloom, I think. There's also a type that has lots of small leaves on one stem. Our 'roadside' lilies are plain orange blooms that were done a few weeks ago. They have a lot of long, green leaves coming out of the ground, almost like big, thick grass.
Be warned that the Chameleon plant is a monster - or can be. Once it gets going, you may never get rid of it.
Potted plants need a lot of care. Marg has a few, but everything I plant is outside. If you water them a lot but lightly, you might be killing them off by encouraging roots to grow to the surface. I don't water often, but when I do, it's often a good soaking around them & I'll fill a gallon milk jug with a small hole in it that dribbles out the water for several minutes afterward, then I'll soak them again on my way back to the spigot.
There are a lot of varieties of hosta. Some are more delicate & others stand the sun better than others, but most varieties are pretty hardy, so long as they get enough shade. Morning sun usually doesn't hurt them or a couple of hours of full afternoon sun.

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I really have to remember to give them some rose food.
I have a perfect place for the monster (Chameleon plant). It's a good spot to experiment with... away from the house, near the woods.
Our orange lilies don't have spots or stripes. So I guess they're just "orange lilies". :) At least they are dependable every season!
I always give a good soaking to my potted plants. I use a water meter to determine if they need it. I know that geraniums and begonias like to dry out a bit before watering again. The sit out on our deck and I enjoy watching every bud bloom.
About begonias, I always thought they liked the shade. But our son has some that get a lot of sun and they are thriving!
My hostas were in the shade. I suspect that a critter gets to them. Darn critters! They even chewed off the flowers of our geraniums and begonias at one point this year. But the plants quickly recovered.

Those are pretty roses. Don't worry about cutting them down too far. Cut them off 6" to a foot above the ground. The roots will regrow the branches much fuller. I used to weedeat ours. You should see what I do to our Weigela bushes. They get 6' tall, but every year I cut them down to 18". Ditto with forsythia. Even the Rose of Sharon get cut down to almost nothing, just a few feet tall. They're big, bushy & beautiful with blooms up over 7' tall now.
Occasionally (rarely) I'll trim something back too far, but then it wasn't a good bush anyway. Not tough enough.
;-)

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OK, I'll forget about the chameleon plant. Sounds like trouble.
When is the best time to cut back the roses? Also the forsythias?

I usually cut the Weigela (after it blooms, a few weeks after the Forsythia) & Rose of Sharon when I cut the Forsythia in the spring. My Rose of Sharon were cut back from 7' to 3' this spring & have been blooming OK for the past month. If I don't cut them back next spring, they'll bloom better next year. The trouble is they're not terribly strong & will break up in ice storms if they get too big. Lots of branches to hold the ice.

BTW, I had never heard of Weigela before this. I found pics at:
http://www.google.com/search?q=weigel...

Hostas seem to grow well on the side of my house nearest the driveway - mostly shade with some sun in afternoon. I've even trimmed them back and planting the trimmings behind the trimmed plant. Growing very well.
Last September we bought 3 small rose bushes - on sale at end of season. Planted them in a part sun / part shade area. Only cost $5.99 a bush. This year, they each bloomed in April; about 3 roses each. Thwat was it! Thank goodness we didn't pay much for the rose bushes. One was a light lavendar color, quite beautiful.

Each day this week I have found birds checking out our 2 bird feeders to see if there are any seeds yet. Sorry birds.
We plan on filling them in September which is just around the corner. We aren't home weekends much which is one of the reasons for not filling the feeders.

We used to feed the birds all the time and got a lot of pleasure out of watching them. However, when I realized that the seeds were attracting mice to the house, we quit feeding the birds. I miss watching them.
We do have a bluebird nesting house. Some years the bluebirds use it and I'm thrilled. Other years the swallows get there first. :)

Marg quit raising roses because so many of the varieties were so prone to black spot & pests for a long time. The ones she's getting now seem to be better about that, but she still has to fiddle with them more than she likes.
Linda, since they're not fully established yet, you might have better luck next year. I hope you do.
We feed the birds year round with all kinds of feeders in several, varying locations around the house. It's not cheap, but we do love to watch them. Mid winter to mid spring is when the birds natural food supply is lowest & they need it the most, but giving them a bird bath in the summer can be a huge help, too. That will draw a lot in.
Joy, I seem to attract more sparrows than anything else to my bluebird houses. I get some bluebirds & tree swallows, but am constantly kicking sparrows out.

My roses have spots on some of the leaves. I have fungus powder for them but I'm afraid it will hurt the dogs in the compound.
We don't see sparrows here in our yard or neighborhood in the summertime. I wonder why.
I recall that there are some MacDonalds fast food restaurants which have plenty of sparrows around looking for food. :)


Werner, good one on the crows. They're nasty birds when they get in really big flocks, but I haven't seen that often. I do remember one time, it was about the time Erin was born, we were doing a job on a farm & a HUGE flock came in & they were murderous. They sat all around the house in the trees for a couple of hours & their droppings coated everything. Walking across the lawn was dangerous. Huge, nasty poops & as foul as anything I've ever seen.
(Puns intended.)
;-)

Maybe that's why the fancy term for a large group of crows (really) is "a murder of crows." :-) (I could see where having them perching in your yard might tempt you to murder them.)

Listen to the noise of a couple of crows:
http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~tony/bird...

Maybe that's why the fancy term for a large group of crows (really) is "a murder of crows." :-) ..."
Good point, Werner. :)
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The groups do pile up. LOL
BTW, I didn't receive a notification about that post. I wonder about the inconsistency of the notifications.