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What are U doing today? (Ongoing thread)

I walked through the garden center of Walmart's today. The flowers in the flats are so tempting. I wish I had the energy for them.

Good quote, Nina. I would add that it's the mark of a patient mind as well. :)
“We find comfort among those who agree with us -- growth among those who don't.”
-Frank A. Clark
"We can disagree without being disagreeable."
-Michelle Obama on Larry King Show 10/8/08

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Actually, I try to garden so there isn't much room for the weeds to grow. Then I only have to really do a big weeding in the spring, after which the flowers choke the weeds out. Thus my love for hostas & other tough flowers.

My friend Debbie from Puerto Rico said she was making me homemade sofrito and that the package would arrive on Wednesday (of last week). There's a knock on the door and who's standing there but Debbie! And she said "I'm your package". It was such a fantastic surprise and touched my heart. We had a great week, cooking, eating, hanging out, playing dominoes, an all around great time.
I've fallen way behind in my reading and even the DVR queue is piling up. Now you all know why I've been so absent and neglectful.
And yesterday I went to get an ingrown toenail surgically removed. Wow, never want to do that again. It's painful and really gross to look at. But the good news is that it's done and it won't be coming back; once this pain is gone, it'll all be over.


Of course, the toenail business wasn't fun but at least it's over, as you said. Reminds me of a quote: "This too shall pass".
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The best hosta place I've ever found is the Azalea Patch in Joppa, MD. They had 260 varieties last time I was there & usually had a couple of dozen more every time I visited. They ranged from leaves the size of a thumbnail up to ones with a leaf 2 or 3 people couldn't reach around (That's right, ONE leaf, not the entire plant!) Sometimes the differences were minor; a couple of inches in average leaf size, color flower, or blooming month meant a different variety. Leave shape, color, pattern or texture were others.
I found a huge difference in the hardiness of the varieties, though. Some were so hardy you couldn't get rid of them, others never took off very well. Most were pretty tough, though. The lighter colored ones did better with more direct sun, but none of mine ever did as well as some that I saw. Mine would always get sunburned.

Late last summer we got rid of a tree that was breaking up the walkway and concrete. I got rid of all the weedy stuff and it stayed pretty bare for the rest of the summer. Even then I knew I wanted hostas along the borders of the walkways. And now that you mentioned my most favorite thing about hostas, weed free, it just reminds me that hostas are the perfect plant.



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I had a big toe nail go bad, twice, while I was working in NH. The second time a podiatrist there cut the usual sliver out of the nail, but then he poisoned the root so it wouldn't grow back. Worked like a charm. After I moved to Glens Falls the other big toe went bad the same way. The podiatrist here hadn't heard about the technique, and after a couple tries, took the whole nail off. Big mistake. I doesn't grow back right. But it never got 'ingrown' again either. Later I FINALLY learned that all I had to do to prevent this problem was wear polypropylene sock liners.

The excitement was a visit from the neighbor's pony. It's about 8 hands, so I'm not sure if it's a pony or a miniature horse (under 8 is a mini) but it's like a damn Jack Russell. Our neighbor got it for his son, but the bloody thing is a rig - a stallion that never dropped its testicles. All the hormones & aggressiveness, but usually they don't have much of sperm count since the testes are too warm &/or deformed seminal tubes. (As I understand it, anyway. I'm no expert.)
Anyway, every equine that this neighbor has had has visited us. For a while his mare was spending more time up here flirting with the boys than at his house, I thought. Then he got a mule & it dropped by a couple of times. Now this damn pony. It actually WANTED TO FIGHT our horses, most of whom are over 16h. Any of the Thoroughbreds would have probably just grabbed him up by the neck & broken it, if they didn't just kick & stomp him to death, so everyone was stirred up. Thank goodness we have good strong fences.
So they couldn't catch the little bugger & Marg wound up having to get Speedy out to lure it into an old garden another neighbor has. Then they got it cornered & caught it. In the meantime, all the excitement & Speedy's absence triggered Rosie to jump out & she did it again tonight when we rode by. Ugh!

The podiatrist had to cut all the way to the root and remove and she put acid in the hole to burn the root so it won't come back. I know how painful that sounds but I was completely numb from novacaine and the good news is the nerve endings are burned too...so no pain. They'l come back in about a week and I was told that's when the pain would come too. But the way I look at it is, I'll have mised a week's worth of pain, the worst will be over by then.
Jim, the animals like you, your land, your animals. You're popular in the animal kingdom! lol

Jackie, this idiot expects his 7 year old to ride this thing!


He had members of the audience hide a document (a small sheet of paper) in the theater and he was able to find it. When he performs this feat in theaters, he says that if he fails to find the hidden document, he will give his fee back to the theater. He's only failed 9 times out of 6,000 (or something like that). While the document is being hidden, he stays backstage with witnesses from the audience.
He does the usual card identification stuff. It's hard to figure out how he does it.
He did come up with some specific facts about people in the audience (or their past) which were true. Some of that was amazing. Other instances could have been based on the odds that he'd hit it right in any case.
He says that if anyone can prove he uses trickery or methods which include electronic messages of some sort, he will give them a million dollars.
His patter reminds me of George Burns, full of funny lines. He's old and gray too. Very entertaining and casual. Is good at creating an atmosphere of suspense.
Wiki says he's a "mentalist".
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Jim, sounds like those animals are keeping you very busy! LOL
I didn't realize that horses and ponies fight with each other.

Studs are almost always at the top of the pecking order since they're so aggressive, but not when they're only 1/4 the size. Most of our guys were cut pretty late, so they're studdish enough not to put up with much. This little guy really must have Jack Russell blood in him. He was back again yesterday.
Rosie wouldn't go back into Speedy's paddock last night, so the goats spent the night in their regular pen. We got about a 1/2" of rain & their house wasn't there, so they probably spent a miserable night. I'll move it back today after I finish leveling the stalls. I'll have the tractor out for that so I can add stone dust to them. Their house is a 4' cube with holes in the side so I can slip a chain through & pick it up with the front end loader.

I guess the goats don't mind being cooped up in a small space.
Our vet has sheep in one of his barns. I saw them all crowded together once when I looked in the open door. They didn't seem to like me there. I could see it in their eyes.

Exactly how does one horse beat another up?

We've all had our share of bites & kicks from horses over the years. Topaz bit me a few years ago under the arm while I was tightening his girth. I beat him up. He tried once more after that & got a punch that bloodied his nose & a kick in the stomach for his trouble. Now he won't even look back at me when I'm tacking him up. He'll walk right over for a treat & lip on my clothes any time I'm out & about, but never pins his ears at me.
We've all had similar experiences with all the horses & ponies, some worse than others. For the most part, once they're socialized, they realize that humans are off limits, but Topaz, Blue, & Cutter are all ex-racehorses that were cut late, so they're pretty aggressive & need reminding from time to time.
Spice, a 4 year old, 10h (40") Shetland mare that we caught wild, lunged across the stall at me the first time I went to feed her. She had Nutmeg, her foal who was about the size of a medium dog, behind her & was defending her. She launched herself at me like a shark & managed to take a chunk out of the palm of my left hand. That was the last lick she got in, though. After that she never attacked a human again. In fact, when Erin was a baby, couldn't even walk yet, she slipped out the dog door & pulled herself up on Spice's hind leg & tail. Spice stomped at flies with her other hind leg, but never moved the leg Erin was hanging on to. That happened twice, once to both Marg & me when we were watching her.
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They'll grab a small pony or foal with their teeth & shake it like a dog shakes a rat. Here's a video of a newborn foal that couldn't walk in the wild. Warning, it's graphic & not pretty.
http://www.horseforum.com/horse-video...
Blue pinned Sam, a medium POA of Erin's like that one time. Hadn't gotten around to shaking before Marg stepped in. She chased him off, but we had to watch those two. Blue just pure hated Sam. Sam used to jump 4' fences & go off to eat with the sheep if he got trapped.

As for the behavior of horses which you described, it shows that one has to know what he's doing before hanging around horses! It's a shame that they have to experience so much "negative reinforcement" before they learn to behave. Our son's dog, Boogie, is very well-behaved, but I think it's because our son made him realize who was boss in the very beginning.
As for animals being neutered late in life, we had a dog, Spokey, who got nasty with other dogs as he aged. So we had him neutered. When neutering didn't change his behavior, the vet said that the aggression was "all in his head" and neutering could not remove it.

As for the negative reinforcement, you just have to work with what you have. All horses are different, just like kids. My oldest boy rarely needed a swat. A raised voice was enough to get him thinking & remembering. My youngest boy needed a 2x4 to get his attention, then the punishment could start.
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Horses are a lot more limited than kids in their understanding (although they have better memories) so you have to start out on their level. If you ever saw what they do to each other, you'd realize that a kick in the belly by a human merely gets their attention, doesn't really hurt much. The furious attitude & yelling scares them more. I've never raised a welt with a whip or poked a hole with a spur. No need & I think it's cruel, although a lot do it. I just use my hands & feet, although I did bite my first pony a time or two, but that was a special case.
(Lightening & I used to go at it frequently & he was too small for even my mother to ride. (Mom's 5'2", 110 lbs) He loved to dump me & run over me which usually wound up with me tackling or tripping him & we'd go down into a pile with me punching, kicking & biting. That would usually straighten him out for a week or two, especially if I wound on top. If he won, the time between fights was shorter.)
IMO, you just need to put the fear of god into them early, then they obey the rules & all is fine. Just like training a kid or a puppy up. Teach them early & they're pretty good after that. When they test you, nail them immediately. It saves a lot of heartache all the way around.
Marg's of the opinion that a stud cut late makes the best riding horse. They tend to be more intelligent & braver. Of course, they can be a bit rank like Speedy or Lightening. Speedy, at 30+, still loves to dump people just for fun, a sly little devil. Mares tend to be flighty air heads, especially when they're in season. If cut too early, geldings are just blah. We like a horse with energy, something that gets on its toes & goes on. Studs are too much of a pain, all aggressive & never seem to learn, a constant fight.

What is the secret of the so-called "horse-whisperers"?
It's interesting how every pet has its very own personality. Some are laid back and some are always keyed-up, except when their sleeping.
As for instinct, that's a whole subject by itself. I agree about the stallion. He followed his instincts. But where do instincts come from? Wiki's page on instinct is fascinating:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instinct
Excerpts:
"Any behavior is instinctive if it is performed without being based upon prior experience, that is, in the absence of learning and is therefore an expression of innate biological factors."
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"A formal definition of instinct is as follows: An instinct is an inborn complex pattern of behavior that must exist in every member of the species and, because it is embedded in the genetic code, cannot be overcome by force of will. It should be distinguished from a reflex which is a simple response of an organism to a specific stimulus..."
"Commonly cited examples of presumed instincts in humans are the "maternal instinct" and the "survival instinct". These examples however do not conform to the scientific definition of instinct. Many human females do not desire children and furthermore some mothers kill their own children. Similarly, many humans contradict their own survival through suicide."
The specific examples of instincts are interesting to read about at the Wiki page.
"Examples of instinctive behaviors in humans include many of the primitive reflexes, such as rooting and suckling, behaviors which are present in mammals."
"Primitive reflexes are reflex actions originating in the central nervous system that are exhibited by normal infants but not neurologically intact adults, in response to particular stimuli." ... "The palmar grasp reflex appears at birth and persists until five or six months of age." [from a related Wiki page]
"...in imprinting, a bird has a sensitive period during which it learns who its mother is. Konrad Lorenz famously had a goose imprint on his boots. Thereafter the goose would follow whomever wore the boots. The identity of the goose's mother was learned, but the goose's behavior towards the boots was instinctive."
The article distinguishes between instincts and drives. "These strong biological forces however are more properly referred to as drives." ... "A secondary point of confusion is that the term instinct has entered into the popular vernacular as widely used metaphor to describe a gut feeling or intuition."
The concept of instinct can be fairly complex. It's all fun to read about.

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I think horse whisperers are just people who have a gift of communicating with them, but I don't know. Never read the book, saw the movie nor met one. Personally, I just talk to them normally or yell at them, depending. Speedy & the goats helped me fix the latch on a gate today & the goats were the better behaved of the 3. He pulled my fencing pliers out of my pocket twice, the little bugger.
I had psych course once & the teacher discussed instincts, especially as they applied to humans. It is an interesting topic. One of the problems I had & still have with the definition is "must exist in every member of the species". No species is perfectly homogeneous in any respect & humans, by virtue of their brain complexity, less than most. There are always sports in every species & by using the word 'every' without reservation, the definition shoots itself in the foot from the get go, but scientific theories do that all the time.
A couple of other theories that I see tossed about all the time are Animal Rights folks pointing to tool use in animals as being proof they're akin to humans. That stems from an anthropological theory that humans are the only tool users, but they never bothered to define what a tool is or how complex it has to be. Since termites instinctively build better & simpler air systems than humans, my gut tells me the theory has some holes in it.
Another one is Gay Rights folks saying that animals engage in homosexual behavior naturally & they point to all female groups in zoos doing so or what I would consider dominance play among others. Again, sexual behavior isn't defined nor is a zoo a natural setting, but they use this as justification for it being 'natural' to be a homosexual. The fact is that humans make their own rules up about a lot of things, hence everything except human works are 'natural'. Why sex should get special consideration over plastic garbage is beyond me.
Anyway, these are theories, not facts, about behavior. They deal with the most complex, least understood aspects of our world. People keep telling me it's a science, but I'm not sure I believe them. It's certainly an area that deserves a lot more looking into, but it's hampered by all sorts of odd taboos, prejudices, & lack of funding.


That statement cracked me up! lol
I think we're all in tune with out particular animals, well, maybe not everyone, but those who are close with their animals. I know what Juneau's thinking, what he wants, how he feels, just by looking at him. And he knows me the same way. I love it, I think it's really cool to have such a bond.

I love it when my dog "communicates" with me through his body language. When he wants to go out, he stands, looks alert, and stares at me. When he wants more petting, he nudges me. When he expects a treat at treat-time, he stares at me again. He'll wake me up with a pawing or a whine if he wants to go out. Yes, it's a very close bond and it's wonderful, as you say.

Jackie wrote: That statement cracked me up! lol"
I misread Jim's comment as "I just like them." I read it 3 times to see why Jim put a smiley icon after it. Still didn't get it. Now I get it. (lol)

Keeping her school bus is a life saver in so many ways. Saves her a couple of hours commuting each day & a LOT of gas, not to mention wear on her truck. The downside is it is HEAVY & BIG. It constantly crushes the stone into smaller pieces & pumps up the clay, not to mention she keeps widening the lane. I figure I'll get the driver to put about half the 20 tons he brings on the circular area of the lane & where Marg parks the bus, then the rest will go behind the shop into a pile so I can grab bucket loads for other areas.
I need a few buckets in the gateway of Speedy's paddock. I used up the last of my old pile there & really didn't have quite enough. Now it's settled in some, not too much since I put sediment cloth down first. Wish I'd done that to the lane, but I hadn't planned on the bus. I need a couple more loads on the outside corner of his paddock where the horses cut by it to walk out into the south field & then I'll split a bucket in the north field gate & by the water trough.
Depending on how much I have left, I'm going to start putting it around the big barn, too. It doesn't have any gutters, wasn't make for them, so it would be expensive to put them on. All the years of dripping water have worn down the ground at the base of it, though. It's ugly & water is starting to sit in places.

Marg says Lily has me well trained. She came in all mud spattered last night & just stood in front of my chair looking at me. So I took her outside, hosed off her undercarriage, then walked back in. She was already waiting in my bathroom by her towel. She LOVES to get toweled off. I guess it's like a full body massage. When I finished drying her off, she just stood there looking at me as I hung the towel back up. She had a disgusted look on her face. Obviously I was lazy & should have rubbed longer. I swear she sighed before leaving.
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Thanks, no. I made this up off-the-cuff from scraps left over from the locker I built on the back deck. I love making stuff like that out of scraps with no plans or anything. Now my daughter, Erin, the Ag teacher in training, wants plans so she can make it into a series of lessons & then have the class sell the finished products. That's tough since I don't know any angles or have any measurements. I used a scribe to find centers & mirror marks. I cut pieces to fit others & did my angles freehand on the radial arm saw to what looked good. Reverse engineering an off-the-cuff project is a lot like work - homework from my kid, actually. Is that fair?!!!

About toweling off the dog, our Romeo likes it too when he comes in from the rain. At first I thought he would back away, but no, he stays right there and enjoys it.
As far as gravel and stones, we've had some experience with blue stone. I don't think they put enough down because it's sinking into the ground and weeds are growing up through it.

Hahaha, pretty ironic! What's an 'Ag teacher' teach?
I think it's a great idea and a good incentive to get students into the project.
If you made more, Jim, you could sell them at Craft Fairs for a good price.

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The above took over 2 hours to write. Chip wasn't looking quite right today & tonight it's clear that he has colic. The vet just left about 10pm. Chip has a tube up his nose & into his stomach. The vet pumped a gallon of mineral oil into him & went up to his arm pit the other way. Yes, Chip is drugged to the gills. Around midnight, Marg & I have to go out & take out the tube. Fun.
I sure hope this greases him up & breaks the impaction. If it doesn't, I might have to put him down. That would suck. Wish us luck.
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The Purple Martins are back today! I thought I saw one earlier, but when we went out for a ride after dinner, we saw 4 of them. Sparrows are starting to lay eggs, so the dogs are happy. As we rode around the field, Chip stands quietly while I empty their nests. Even when Lily jumped up almost into my lap to get a couple of eggs & the Jacks were tearing up the nest under his feet. What a perfect pony!