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What are U doing today? (Ongoing thread)


I did hop on Chip tonight & rode around the place. He was a LOVE. We stopped & tied up some electric fence tape (not hot) that broke, then I hopped back on from the flat. I can just vault on to him bareback.
Then we went around the south field & we pulled up next to 3 different bird houses & I checked them from his back. This means pulling a nail, opening the side, peering in, then reversing the procedure. He never budged! What a perfect pony!!! He managed all the slipperiness without a problem, too. I think his stifles are OK.

Yesterday, my home computer totally lost its Internet capability, shortly after I downloaded what seemed to be a routine Mozilla Firefox update. (I'm not sure if the two events were related, or if this is an effect of the accumulating damage from the embedded spyware.) Fortunately, since August I've had a new computer waiting in the wings (a birthday gift from the Aussie branch of our family, Tony and Rebekah), and just haven't had time to install it. Today, I made time, only to learn that my keyboard's plug-in won't fit the port on the new computer --neither will the mouse plug-in; but while the computer comes with a new mouse, it doesn't have its own keyboard. Back in August, Tony had offered to include a new keyboard as part of the gift, but I (ever-frugal on others' behalf as well as my own!) had told him no, his generosity was too great already. (The thumping noise you hear in the background is me kicking myself.) So now a major order of business tomorrow (and maybe Friday) will be purchasing a compatible keyboard. Meanwhile, this does play havoc with my chances for time online. :-( (Right now, I'm at work on supper break.) I can definitely say that high technology can sure make life very complicated!


All you need is a USB keyboard. They even make PS2 to USB adapters. If you want, I'll send you one. I have dozens that we don't use any more, although they only cost a couple of dollars, if you can find them. There is also an older style keyboard jack, the end is about as big around as a penny. Those don't always convert reliably. Knowing you, you could have one of those. A PS2 end is also round, but a little bigger than a pen. USB is flat.
Nina, it is so nice to be able to just grab Chip, hop on & do my thing. He's so much easier to deal with than Mr.-I-Can't-Stand-Still-EVER Speedy. He hasn't dumped anyone yet, either. Always a good thing! Speedy tries to dump everyone, although this is the first time he's gotten away with it on Marg in years.


https://picasaweb.google.com/Sea1934/...
(Check out both pics. It's in the background.)
Jim, looks like Chip is a keeper too! :) (So is Ed, and yes, I've got him trained. )
Werner, hang in there. The world seems to fall apart whenever our computers do. We sure have gotten attached to them! Hope you can iron things out soon.
PS-Nina, hope your husband will be OK.

http://www.amazon.com/PS-Female-USB-M...

https://picasaweb.google.com/Sea1934/......" I love the pictures of the pillow and totally agree with Beaudelaire's quote. I, once, long ago toured his house in Paris. I didn't know until then he lived right next door to voltaire.

I didn't make it over to Computer Parts Unlimited this morning --too much to do, and too little time! But I'll be shopping for a converter there tomorrow, and crossing my fingers. :-)

But Voltaire and Beaudelaire never knew each other. Voltaire died in 1778 and Beaudelaire was born in 1821.
Nina, you were fortunate to have toured Beaudelaire's house which was next door to Voltaire's house. It's so hard to imagine houses that old. But I guess there are a lot of them in Europe. I wonder how many buildings there are still standing in the USA which were built in the 1700's when Voltaire lived.
Below are some I found online:
"The John Blake House is located ... in Maybrook, New York, United States. It is a brick building from the late 18th century." FROM: http://www.ask.com/wiki/John_Blake_Ho...
"The Brick Castle of William Bull III, ... in the Town of Wallkill in Orange County, New York. It was built by Bull sometime in the 1780s." FROM: http://www.ask.com/wiki/William_Bull_...
Of course, there's George Washington's house in Virginia. "The house was built in 1743 ... The structure was enlarged several times between 1759 and 1787. ... It has been restored". FROM: http://seewashingtondc.net/mvernon.htm
It occurs to me that it might be interesting to research the homes in the National Register of Historic Places: http://www.nationalregisterofhistoric...
Ooops, I went off on a tangent! LOL Sorry about that.
BTW, for reference: The quote which Nina mentioned (quoted in the caption of the photo I linked to in Message #2659 above) was:
"A multitude of small delights constitues happiness."
-Charles Beaudelaire



Nina, it has always been a dream of mine to go to Paris. My son (who speaks fluent French) continually offers to take me there. But I don't fly. Just now I looked at Google maps and found the "Isle of St. Louis" in the Seine River in Paris. Thanks for updating me on my knowledge of the geography of Paris. I love maps! BTW, what year were you there?

Nina, I hope your grandson is safe too. I looked at Google maps just now and found the Strait of Malacca. Wiki says: "The Strait of Malacca is a narrow ... stretch of water between the Malay Peninsula ... and the Indonesian island of Sumatra.
Below is a link to the Google map. Sometimes the links don't work but I'll try it anyway:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&...
OOops, that was Paris. Try these:
http://www.hybridcars.com/files/strai...
http://205.254.135.7/EMEU/cabs/World_...
The following maps may help:
http://www.dive-the-world.com/images/...
http://www.mapquest.com/maps?country=...
http://www.mapquest.com/maps?country=...
I guess I told you I love maps! LOL

https://www.cia.gov/library/publicati...
(It's the light tan area.)
As you can see, it's spread out over a large part of the area. Here's the Wiki page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia...

PS-Singapore used to be part of Malaysia (the Malaysian Federation) but separated and became independent. See more here:
http://atlas.mapquest.com/country/Sin...
Hope that clarifies things. That part of the world can be confusing geographically.


How old is your grandson? He's having an exciting life.

Then I hopped on Chip & was riding him when Marg got home. She hopped on Speedy & we did a loop around the place before feeding everyone. Topaz is over his cold, too.



Sounds like everyone is having a good time!

Nina, this is the first time we've heard about that. Imagine! Pirates in this day and age. Modern pirates. That's a shame about the four Americans who were killed. When will your grandson finish his Navy tour?

The military gets to go to some of the worst places in the world. I remember a brief visit to Panama in the late 70's. Most of the time was spent on base or in the jungle, but we did visit a city once with armed soldiers on every corner carrying machine guns. Not my cup of tea at all.

Jim, I hope our country never comes to that.


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Jim, thanks VERY much for finding that list! I had no idea that there were so many buildings in the US that went back that far! Some of the stone work is beautiful. A good example is the The Henry Whitfield House in Guilford, Connecticut (Oldest stone American Colonial house; oldest house in Connecticut). It dates from 1639. Below is a link to the pic:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hen...
It was remodeled in 1868 and restored in 1902-04. So when people go to see it, they should be aware that it wouldn't have lasted so long intact if it hadn't been restored.

Nina, I googled and found the following:
"The Gonzalez-Alvarez House is the oldest house in St. Augustine and the state of Florida. The house was built sometime between 1702 and 1727..."
FROM: http://www.tripadvisor.com/Travel-g34...
Hope your grandson Travis has a good two years in the Navy.


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Well, it's the start of another work week in the world of the weird - our planet Earth.
People think it is news that Whitney Huston's 18 year old kid got high after the funeral. Really? Get a life & leave the poor kid alone, you bunch of ghouls.
There is actually a 'science' called "archaeoacoustics" & one of it's
http://now.msn.com/now/0217-stoneheng...
Pot is illegal - sort of - maybe. Why? Apparently you can buy a license to smoke it for $50. Why are they still bothering to ticket people? No wonder the country is broke. That's inefficient. They should make it legal & tax it 6 ways from Sunday like they do cigarettes.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02...
Dutch Scientists Grow Hamburger in the lab, but skip the traditional step of using a cow.
http://now.msn.com/living/0219-lab-gr...
Due to a rumor that someone might have once done it & couldn't be prosecuted, an Illinois politician is going to get a law against having sex with corpses passed. I'm so glad he's concentrating on this rather than any of the myriad of piddling other problems I've heard of lately. I'm sure this law will just help keep our country safer than ever!
http://now.msn.com/living/0219-necrop...
On a serious note, China is poisoning our pets. This sucks. Where can we get safe treats?
http://vitals.msnbc.msn.com/_news/201...
Nepal shows that it truly is a "quaint" country by having a woman burned to death as a witch over a decade into the 21st century. (What was it that was so great about religion again?)
http://now.msn.com/now/0219-woman-bur...
All is NOT LOST! At least 3 possibly good (at least interesting) SF movies are coming out this year. Here's a quick run down on them.
http://mossjon314159.wordpress.com/20...

For what it's worth, though (I usually avoid arguing over current issues, but sometimes I have aberrant lapses), I've known enough potheads and ex-potheads, as friends and family members, to have misgivings about strict libertarian ideology as a policy guide where it's concerned. In my experience, pot addicts aren't "consumers" making "rational decisions" about where they spend their money; and I don't think legalizing it would produce a bonanza of tax money. The U.S. tobacco industry had enough political clout for decades to keep taxes on its product low and regulation nonexistant; their clout was nothing compared to what the drug cartels would have if they could openly and aggressively advertise and market their "product" and legally contribute to politicians. (In that event, IMO, we might have worse things to worry about than taxes --such as the U.S. degenerating into a failed narco-state.) That said, I've never favored imprisoning drug users (as opposed to dealers) as if they were the criminals rather than the victims; I think an emphasis on help and treatment instead of punishment would go a long way to restoring sanity to our drug policies, and to muting a lot of the criticism that they engender now. (Whew! Werner descends from soapbox, dusting it lightly to remove footprints....)
If it's examined empirically, I'd suggest that a strict one-on-one equation of "religion" and witch-burning might turn out to be too simplistic.
Re the three SF movies, I've seen some commercials for John Carter already, and remarked at the time that it had possibilities! Even if it doesn't follow Burroughs' novel very closely (and I'd be surprised if it does!), I hope to see it sometime.

For what it's worth, though (I usually avoid arguing over current..."
Hey, I just picked out a few of the top stories that showed up on MSN when I checked my account there. That's what really makes it weird & why I usually don't read the news. The things that concern people & the decisions they make are just too goofy.
Since you brought it up... I don't think that pot is any worse than alcohol. No drug is completely safe & can be abused. Look at how people now want to regulate sugar. I'm also not into saving people from themselves nor do I like unenforceable laws. I think it's worse for a large portion of the population to have contempt for laws & ignore them with a wink & a nod - which is exactly what that article was pointing out.
I've also never understood why prostitution is illegal as a simple personal service as it is in so many countries & even in Nevada. Like pot smoking, it happens anyway & just creates a black market that can't be properly regulated. Like Prohibition, laws aren't going to stop it, so it might as well be taxed & regulated to some extent. Now people just get around it by calling it an escort service or posting on the Internet. I can't imagine that's very safe for anyone involved.

You make legitimate points, as usual, though I think a counter-argument could be made in each case. Large numbers of people do flout the law against pot use, and that's not, obviously, a good situation. (That state of affairs is similar to that with another law which we have in Virginia: we're the only state with a 19th-century law still on the books that criminalizes non-marital sex, though it's not currently enforced. I'd argue that the two types of behavior aren't strictly equivalent, but I could certainly see a case for repeal of the Virginia law based on your argument above!) Far fewer people deal pot than use it, though. I still think criminal sanctions for the former aren't as liable to be widely flouted as for the latter.
Prostitution presents similar issues, except that very few if any prostitutes ply that trade because they're sex addicts. (Though according to what I've read, a hefty percentage of them ARE drug addicts, and prostitute themselves to feed their habit.) But there too, I think the libertarian vision of women "voluntarily" making a responsible decision to provide the "personal service" for profit too often parts company with social reality; very few average streetwalkers are the ones raking in the profits, and there's usually some element of economic or physical coercion involved. And the effect of legalization would be (and historically has been and is) simply to give the pimp's so-called "contracts" legal enforceability, and full access to the courts and the cops to be their enforcers. Again, that said, I have to agree with the founder of the "prostitute's union" C.O.Y.O.T.E.: "prostitution isn't a victimless crime; the girls are the victims." To my mind, sex for hire is much more an offense against a woman than by her -another example of our legal system's fondness for treating the victim as the criminal. A woman in those straits doesn't need or deserve a jail sentence, any more than a pot user does. (Anyhow, that's just my opinion!)

The history of alcohol is a good case in point. The first time US troops were ever set against US citizens was by President George Washington during the Whiskey Rebellion due to harsh, unfair taxation. Whiskey was a way of storing & transporting grain back then, not quite what we're discussing, but still an interesting point.
Then Prohibition came around & it was one of the most notorious failures in our history. It spawned a huge black market & created some of the richest criminals in history. You make a point against drug dealers who hold pretty much that position today. What happened when Prohibition ended? A lot of those criminals went legit. Joe Kennedy, JFK's dad, was one example.
As far as prostitution goes, I think it is just stupid of our society to hold such out dated ideas about it. So many of the old ideas & conventions that uphold the idea are gone. Premarital sex isn't a big deal any more. People get married for a couple of minutes all the time now & folks have always married rich people simply for their money. Massages are legal, but a 'happy ending' is illegal. That just seems silly to me.
Sex is an important part of our nature which our society tries hard to minimize & fails at miserably. Everyone does it & no one talks about it. One of the driving forces of the Internet is porn. They were among the first & most innovative at taking money online. They're still one of the top money makers as an industry, but they're rarely talked about because of the stigma we attach to their business. You know they're now doing a booming business selling sex dolls that are supposed to be so true to life that you can even send in a picture & have the face of your choice put on them? They sell for something like $10,000 & there's a freaking waiting list for them!
As far as the link between prostitution & drugs goes, I wonder which comes first or if there is a true link. Is there one between being an actor & taking drugs or having short marriages? Or is that just a highly publicized few at one end of the spectrum? Do most prostitutes take drugs or is it predominate among the lower echelons while the call girls & part timers are just like regular people? Would prostitutes want to take drugs if they had better working conditions & weren't used, then spit on by society?
I don't know & I doubt anyone else does because it isn't a profession that anyone has decent statistics on because it is illegal. I'm sure some folks with more experience know more, but they won't say because of the stigma attached to the whole business. IMO, the legalization & regulation of both pot & prostitution couldn't help but make it better for everyone all the way around.
For a real eye-opener on just how backward we are when it comes to sex, read Bonk: The Curious Coupling of Science and Sex by Mary Roach. While she doesn't go into the above questions directly, she does point out some of the appalling ignorance we have on the subject of sex in general & some of the horrible consequences of it. My review is here:
http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/...

Illegal occupations aren't studied as exhaustively as legal ones, but there actually are serious studies of prostitution done by interested researchers, many of whom based their findings on extensive first-hand interviews with prostitutes, who talked to them pretty candidly. Unfortunately, it's been awhile since I read in any of these, and I didn't write down bibliographic information. :-( But one thing I remember is that a lot of prostitutes (though not necessarily a majority) were drug addicts BEFORE becoming prostitutes, and turned to that line of work as a source of ready drug money. (And some were hooked on drugs by their pimps/drug suppliers, as an efficient means of control.) There do also seem to be a fair number of hookers who turn to heavy drug and/or alcohol use AFTER getting into that lifestyle, as a way of coping with it. I would argue that this isn't only a response to horrific working conditions and societal rejection (though those don't help!); I think it's a response to the instinctive hard-wiring of our sexual nature that makes all of us, including prostitutes, feel deep down that sex is made for loving communion with a life partner, and that it's misused outside of that context. Of course, that's a matter of opinion, which depends on whether you view sex as having a purpose (beyond biological reproduction) in the first place, or as just another purely physical drive like a cat or dog's heat period. (Neither basic assumption is "provable" in a laboratory or logical sense, and neither are usually much swayed by counter-assertions, however well-intended. :-) )
Herodotus is quoted in The Horizon Book of Lost Worlds as saying that the Egyptians of his day, realizing that the human propensity for theft can't be stamped out, chose to regulate it for minimum social disruption: persons wanting to be thieves had to register with the authorities, bring their loot to a central clearinghouse in each local area, and allow the rightful owners to reclaim it by paying a small ransom. This may not have been true (Herodotus repeated a lot of tall tales told to him by people who enjoyed pulling a foreigner's leg); but it's an interesting application of your basic approach. :-) Personally, I'm very skeptical of our government's ability to improve much of anything by "regulating" it. My observation is that the real influence over the "regulations" is too often that of the would-be abusers to be regulated, who tend to be in bed with the "regulators" and quite willing to pay bribes, as being much cheaper than high overhead from real regulations. As the theme song of Monk says, "I could be wrong, now --but I don't think so!"
On another subject, our winter storm is over and it's a beautiful day, with a lot of snow still on the ground. But Bluefield College is closed for the second day in a row because of a power outage on campus, caused by power lines downed in the storm, and many people in the area are without electricity (9,000 of them in neighboring Mercer County, the hardest hit). For some, it may be Friday before the power is fully restored.

As for prostitution, I agree with you on government regulation, however the current idea of pretending that it doesn't exist & isn't a problem is repugnant to me. Spottily enforcing it is wrong on a lot more levels. It leads to more corruption, not less, especially when quite a few of those who are supposed to be enforcing the law don't agree with it. Obviously, quite a few of the people writing the laws don't agree with it either, given the number of officials who have been proven to use sex for hire services. No matter what an individual's feelings are on a subject, keeping it in the closet just creates a festering sore.


Marg saw a really cool sight today. She was driving back from her morning bus run & was almost home when she saw a rainbow. The REALLY cool part of it was that from her angle, it looked like it ended on our house.


Yes, this is very troubling. Romeo and all my grand-dogs LOVE Chicken Nibbles:
http://www.petguys.com/-727348881010....
Hate to think that they're tainted. :-(
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