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message 51: by Larry (new)

Larry | 24 comments I agree baked was deffently a better descripton


message 52: by Janie (new)

Janie Johnson I have a question for you guys and no it has nothing to do with your mental states. Do you think either of you will write a full length novel?


message 53: by Evans (last edited Jan 29, 2013 09:01AM) (new)

Evans Light (evanslight) | 204 comments Mod
Janie wrote: "I have a question for you guys and no it has nothing to do with your mental states. Do you think either of you will write a full length novel?"

Hi Janie -

Whew - a question that doesn't have to do with how scrambled my brains are! I was starting to think maybe they were coming to take me away any minute now. ; )

Your question about a novel is well timed, because a full-length horror novel about a strange mining town isolated deep in the mountains is the primary project I am working on at the moment.

Writing a novel is turning out to be such an incredibly different proposition in terms of scope, effort and organization than a short story, or even a novella. It's a daunting task.

Even though I have around 20 more short stories in various stages of completion waiting to be published, I think the time has come for me to buckle down and finish that first novel.

The book has grown out of a concept that Adam Light and I produced together. We initially tried our hand at co-writing the book, but despite our valiant efforts for some reason we were never able to get it fully completed as a writing team. After producing 200-plus pages of manuscript, we abandoned the project as co-authors and began focusing on the short story format as individual writers instead.

I've been working on and off on the project independently ever since, and now I think the time is right to buckle down and get it done. No promises on when it will be finished, but I'm having a blast writing it.

I think honing my short story writing skills was a good thing to do before attempting to complete the novel, as it has helped me learn how to do more with fewer words, and hopefully the novel will end up being the non-stop, lean and mean adrenaline thrill ride I envision.

As for Adam Light's novel-writing aspirations - well, I know some stuff, but it's his story to tell (or not).

Thanks so much for asking, Janie!


Cobwebs-Iced-Across-SpaceTime (readingreindeerproximacentauri) | 0 comments Looking forward to its eventual publication, Evans!
If you ever end up in an asylum (my favorite location) ;) let me know: I will come visit, and write the novelization.:)


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Evans Light (evanslight) | 204 comments Mod
Mallory- wrote: "Looking forward to its eventual publication, Evans!
If you ever end up in an asylum (my favorite location) ;) let me know: I will come visit, and write the novelization.:)"


Thanks! If my own personal tragedy wasn't at least entertaining, then it would all be for naught. : )


Cobwebs-Iced-Across-SpaceTime (readingreindeerproximacentauri) | 0 comments :) Always catharis-that's the point of reading, and writing, in my perspective


message 57: by Janie (new)

Janie Johnson Evans I am certainly looking forward to it's completion. Please do let me know when you get there! :)


message 58: by Catherine (new)

Catherine (catherinedep) | 15 comments Question: is there any subject matter that would be totally off limits to either of you, or anything goes?


message 59: by Evans (last edited Apr 13, 2013 02:18PM) (new)

Evans Light (evanslight) | 204 comments Mod
Catherine wrote: "Question: is there any subject matter that would be totally off limits to either of you, or anything goes?"

Thanks for the question! It's an interesting one, and one I haven't really given much thought.

I don't know if there are any absolute subject matter limits I would consciously self-impose, but obviously there will be paths I'm less likely to follow than others when writing.

Subject matter I'm not likely to tackle soon, or ever (and probably not the point of your question): Vampires, zombies, werewolves, witches, or superheroes. All have been done to death, in my opinion. Joe Hill's upcoming NOS4A2 may be the final vampire-related thing I ever read by choice.

More to the point of your question, though - I try to approach distasteful subjects in a semi-tasteful way (most of the time, unless I'm in an playfully evil mood), and I'm not really into being shocking for shocking's sake. Splatterpunk is not my genre. I'm not averse to writing about things that are distasteful, not in the least - but if it doesn't serve the story or hit the reader at some emotional level then what's the point?

So my final answer is this: I'm going to say everything is fair game. I'm sure there are subconscious moral limits I won't ever cross, but I'm not inclined to try to spell them out. There is material in my upcoming novel, TRANQUILITY'S END, that will probably be considered to be shocking, controversial and in extremely poor taste to many; but everything ultimately serves the story and is not tacked on merely to be gratuitous. It's there because the story calls for it.

On a broader note, if someone doesn't enjoy testing the boundaries of their own fear and moral sensibilities, then horror is probably not a good choice of genre for that person.

Fear and evil have many forms, and by confronting the extremes of the possible manifestations of both within the safe confines of horror fiction we learn much about our private inner selves, and the secret dark things in which we either take delight or find loathing.

Are there lines you won't cross when choosing what to read?


message 60: by Evans (last edited Apr 13, 2013 02:27PM) (new)

Evans Light (evanslight) | 204 comments Mod
Jon Recluse wrote: "So, I take it you two are tickled pink that modern healthcare is leaving psychiatric treatment behind, to concentrate on the important things, like slapping boobs on llamas, right?"

Jon, now when you say "slapping boobs on llamas", are you referring to udder enhancement surgery or physical violence directed towards a female llama's chest area?

If it's the former, please drop Adam Light a note with information about it, because I know his llama's boobs have been handled so much that he'll likely be very interested in the procedure.

If you're referring to the latter - literally slapping a llama in the boobs - then watch out, because Adam's undying love for llamas has no room for llama-related sexual violence. He might petition the courts to have your llamas put into his custody if he suspects foul play in the barnyard.


message 61: by Jon Recluse (new)

Jon Recluse | 23 comments The former.

Adam should check out Boobs 'R Us, over on the New Jersey Turnpike. They'll put a pair of boobs on everyone he brings in, including you and the llama, for $49.95.


message 62: by Adam (new)

Adam Light (goodreadscomadamlight) | 266 comments Mod
Thanks, Jon. I do need a new set of boobs. Mine are so thrashed from llama bites, I was beginning to think there was no hope.
Now that I can get a new pair, and at such a low price, the future is wide open - as the song says.
I must address the issue of llama boobs, though. This is a serious issue that I am loathe to let slip through the cracks. If I ever catch anyone slapping a llama's boobs, I will have them drawn and quartered posthaste. I care for these animals, dearly I might add, and shudder at the prospect of such abusive behavior being perpetrated on them.
I'm not a champion of this particular cause, but merely a morally astute citizen who gives a shit about llamas.
Slapping a llama with my own set of fun bags is an entirely different scenario.


message 63: by Adam (new)

Adam Light (goodreadscomadamlight) | 266 comments Mod
Janie wrote: "I have a question for you guys and no it has nothing to do with your mental states. Do you think either of you will write a full length novel?"

Janie, I am working on a novel right now. It's slow going, but I will finish it sometime in the near future. As of this moment, I am working on a story that I at first visualized as another short work, but has ended up growing larger and larger. I hope to finish this one soon, but have no idea what direction it might take when I least expect it.


message 64: by Adam (new)

Adam Light (goodreadscomadamlight) | 266 comments Mod
Catherine wrote: "Question: is there any subject matter that would be totally off limits to either of you, or anything goes?"

Good question, Catherine.
I would have to answer that one by saying that there is no subject matter that I would not broach unless it was beyond the limitations of my imagination.
As Evans has already replied, it would simply have to serve the story I am writing, and not be slipped in gratuitously.
I have exercised a certain modicum of restraint in the subject matter of most of my stories to this point, but I never know what situation might inspire me to write about it, and how gruesome or taboo that subject might be.


message 65: by Jon Recluse (new)

Jon Recluse | 23 comments Which brings me to another question.
While horror fiction may have no boundaries, it must have limits.
Just because a vocal portion of the fan base is, for want of a better term, sadistically inclined sociopaths in training, authors shouldn't stoop to their level, and take part what always winds up being a downwardly spiraling cycle of torture porn.
Horror fiction should keep itself above the level that horror movies have been dragged, with psychotic garbage like "The Human Centipede", don't you think?


message 66: by Adam (new)

Adam Light (goodreadscomadamlight) | 266 comments Mod
I agree, Jon. I do feel there are limits to what I would write about, but again, it would be based on the message I want to get across. I like some of the splatter-punk and torture books out there - Jack Ketchum and Richard Laymon have pulled off some doozies - but the stories I have written so far have come from different places than those.
If, however, the mood siezed me, and I felt that a story demanded some kind of brutal sadistic suffering, I would not shy away from it at all.
As for "The Human Centipede," I have not seen it, but I know of its reputation. I enjoy movies based on story, not on graphically violent content.


message 67: by Jon Recluse (new)

Jon Recluse | 23 comments Works for me.


message 68: by Evans (new)

Evans Light (evanslight) | 204 comments Mod
Jon Recluse wrote: "Which brings me to another question.
While horror fiction may have no boundaries, it must have limits.
Just because a vocal portion of the fan base is, for want of a better term, sadistically incli..."


I think a lot of extremely violent material, be it in books or film, is inaccurately classifed as horror, when in fact it is a separate and removed genre.

Materials that deal exclusively with pain, torture and mutilation should be called what they are: blood porn. In my opinion, it's a fetish that has nothing at all to do with horror. Horror is an examination of the fear of human suffering, blood porn is a celebration of it. Two separate things.

And for the record, I do not enjoy blood porn at all.


message 69: by Jon Recluse (new)

Jon Recluse | 23 comments Good to know.


message 70: by Evans (new)

Evans Light (evanslight) | 204 comments Mod
Jon Recluse wrote: "Good to know."

Now rub this ketchup all over you and scream like you're dying! Oh yeah, that's the stuff! ;)


message 71: by Jon Recluse (new)

Jon Recluse | 23 comments Evans wrote: "Jon Recluse wrote: "Good to know."

Now rub this ketchup all over you and scream like you're dying! Oh yeah, that's the stuff! ;)"


Your brother can write down the sounds you make when I staple your goatee to the ceiling fan.


message 72: by Adam (new)

Adam Light (goodreadscomadamlight) | 266 comments Mod
Mmmm... blood porn.... sounds delectable.


message 73: by Adam (new)

Adam Light (goodreadscomadamlight) | 266 comments Mod
I have an idea that would end up being my master work, Jon.


message 74: by Jon Recluse (new)

Jon Recluse | 23 comments Once I got warmed up, yes it would, Adam.


message 75: by Adam (new)

Adam Light (goodreadscomadamlight) | 266 comments Mod
I'm glad we can both be a part of this endeavor, Jon. I think that Evans is secretly anticipating this more than you or I.


message 76: by Jon Recluse (new)

Jon Recluse | 23 comments I am too, Adam.

That will change, very quickly. ;)


message 77: by Evans (new)

Evans Light (evanslight) | 204 comments Mod
Jon Recluse wrote: "Evans wrote: "Jon Recluse wrote: "Good to know."

Now rub this ketchup all over you and scream like you're dying! Oh yeah, that's the stuff! ;)"

Your brother can write down the sounds you make w..."


That was so funny that I have no worthy response! Touche.


message 78: by Adam (new)

Adam Light (goodreadscomadamlight) | 266 comments Mod
That was a worthy response,, bro.


message 79: by Jacob (new)

Jacob Rayne | 28 comments Adam wrote: "That was a worthy response,, bro."

This thread is hilarious!


message 80: by Adam (new)

Adam Light (goodreadscomadamlight) | 266 comments Mod
Gotta have some fun with it. Thanks, Jacob.


message 81: by Evans (new)

Evans Light (evanslight) | 204 comments Mod
Jacob wrote: "Adam wrote: "That was a worthy response,, bro."

This thread is hilarious!"


I just wish someone would cut me down from this ceiling fan. I'm starting to get dizzy.


message 82: by Jon Recluse (new)

Jon Recluse | 23 comments Look!

A piñata!

Where's my bat?


message 83: by Evans (new)

Evans Light (evanslight) | 204 comments Mod
Umm, yeah...something's about to start coming out, but I'm pretty sure it's not candy!


message 84: by Jon Recluse (new)

Jon Recluse | 23 comments I'll turn on the fan and give you some privacy.


message 85: by Adam (new)

Adam Light (goodreadscomadamlight) | 266 comments Mod
Give him a paint brush so he can write his masterpiece on the walls with his excretions.


message 86: by Jon Recluse (new)

Jon Recluse | 23 comments I'm not going back in there.

We should have put in a strobe light first, though....


message 87: by Adam (new)

Adam Light (goodreadscomadamlight) | 266 comments Mod
It's true what they say about hind sight...


message 88: by Jon Recluse (new)

Jon Recluse | 23 comments Objects in the mirror are closer than they appear?


message 89: by Evans (new)

Evans Light (evanslight) | 204 comments Mod
Guys...hey guys...anybody there? It's not funny anymore! I don't like this!


message 90: by Jon Recluse (new)

Jon Recluse | 23 comments The spin cycle hasn't finished.

Your pants are still damp.


message 91: by Catherine (new)

Catherine (catherinedep) | 15 comments Evans wrote: "Are there lines you won't cross when choosing what to read?"

Yes. But I'm afraid to tell you what they are for fear they will show up in your next story. ; )


message 92: by Evans (new)

Evans Light (evanslight) | 204 comments Mod
Catherine wrote: "Evans wrote: "Are there lines you won't cross when choosing what to read?"

Yes. But I'm afraid to tell you what they are for fear they will show up in your next story. ; )"


Oh, c'mon. Trust me. Tell me what really scares you the most! Mwa-ha-ha...


message 93: by Anne (new)

Anne Conley (anneconley) | 12 comments What scares me the most is doing anything cooperatively with most members of my family, much less my brother. How do you guys do that?


message 94: by Jon Recluse (new)

Jon Recluse | 23 comments One of them is imaginary.


message 95: by Anne (new)

Anne Conley (anneconley) | 12 comments Well that explains a lot...


message 96: by Adam (new)

Adam Light (goodreadscomadamlight) | 266 comments Mod
I'm the imaginary one. I float around in the ether all alone until Evans hits the brick wall of writer's block and needs to draw on me for inspiration. Once he is finished with me, he folds me up like a paper airplane and tosses me back like a useless anorexic fish. Please help me!


message 97: by Jon Recluse (new)

Jon Recluse | 23 comments Play Twisted Sister at max volume until he snaps.


message 98: by Anne (new)

Anne Conley (anneconley) | 12 comments Aw, come on Adam. I can think of worse things than drifting in ether all day long...


message 99: by Adam (new)

Adam Light (goodreadscomadamlight) | 266 comments Mod
Adam wrote: "Janie wrote: "I have a question for you guys and no it has nothing to do with your mental states. Do you think either of you will write a full length novel?"

Janie, I am working on a novel right n..."


Janie, I'm working on a story right now that originated as a simple short story idea but has grown in length and scope, and I am eighty pages into it. It may not end up being a novel, per se, but it is certainly the most expansive work I have done to date. I should finish it soon, as I feel I am coming to the end. At the very least, it should end up being a long novella. I am also currently working on a novel, but it has been a work in progress for years. I am still torn on whether I will focus on that project after the new story and maybe pop out a few shorts here and there to fill the void in the meantime.


message 100: by Adam (new)

Adam Light (goodreadscomadamlight) | 266 comments Mod
Anne wrote: "Aw, come on Adam. I can think of worse things than drifting in ether all day long..."

You have a good point there, Anne.


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