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message 1: by Elle (new)

Elle (louiselesley) | 6579 comments Opinions, people!


Me? Eh. I can take it and leave it. I've never seen the films but read the books extremely early on before any of the hype began. I didn't truly hate them but I took them with a pinch of salt and enjoyed them for what they were - quite pathetic and fluffy. I'd never re-read them though. Gosh no.


PS: RPatz is my favourite thing. He hates them so much. LOL


message 2: by Jud (new)

Jud (judibud) | 16799 comments I'm the same. I was expecting something pretty good after all the hype and all the books are just meh. The first ones starts with terrible writing and either I got used to it or she did get a little better.

I really don't get the craze.


message 3: by Kath (new)

Kath Middleton | 23860 comments Never heard of them, even though I am fast approaching The Twilight Zone!


message 4: by Jud (new)

Jud (judibud) | 16799 comments You're better off not knowing about them Ignite!


message 5: by Tim (new)

Tim | 8539 comments I don't hate the movies (haven't read the books), but Michael Sheen was the best thing in them, and of course Aro's laugh just steals them.


message 6: by Elle (new)

Elle (louiselesley) | 6579 comments Very true Jud :P

I really should watch the movies to see if they are any better.

The writing is bad all the way through Jud and for me to notice it, it must be really awful.


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Oiy.

You have an exam tomorrow.


message 8: by Elle (new)

Elle (louiselesley) | 6579 comments I do and I am studying. I posted this right before I had dinner then I went to eat and now I'm just about to get back at it!


message 9: by Kath (new)

Kath Middleton | 23860 comments Elle, you sound like me with housework!


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Louise-Lesley (Elle) wrote: "I do and I am studying. I posted this right before I had dinner then I went to eat and now I'm just about to get back at it!"

Good girl. You may have a cookie at your next break.


message 11: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21817 comments They're books that I never bothered with because I wasn't their target audience, and was never tempted because my daughter described them as 'worse than buffy'
(I was once asked to leave one gathering because I kept laughing during the martial arts scenes when Buffy was on TV, so I've only seen ten minutes of her as well :-))


message 12: by Katy (new)

Katy | 2662 comments Like you, I read the books before the hype, and thought they were really bad. I kept buying the next one though to see if they got any better. They didn't unfortunately. They are now sitting on my bookshelf collecting dust.

I went to see the first film in the cinema and came out feeling like I had lost two hours of my life. The book wasn't great, but the film failed to capture me. I saw the second film on dvd, and ended up falling asleep!


Gingerlily - The Full Wild | 34228 comments I read all the books and quite enjoyed them, although they were very teenagery. Didn't watch the films as I heard they weren't great. I'm quite bewildered at how popular they are - maybe because I am no longer a teenager...


message 14: by Elle (new)

Elle (louiselesley) | 6579 comments For a lot of people I think it was an introduction to the genre, and you always kinda remember and love your first book that brought you into a genre you love.

I know I do.


message 15: by Jud (new)

Jud (judibud) | 16799 comments I can't help but think 'if only someone else wrote them'. Also, if Bella had a personality that would be a start.


message 16: by Will (new)

Will Macmillan Jones (willmacmillanjones) | 11324 comments I read the first 2. My daughter wanted them, and at 13 I was checking her reading material.

They were dreadfully written. And at 16 my teenager sneers now at their quality. (Although I'm not supposed to know, she also read 50 shades, and didn;t finish it.)


message 17: by Jud (new)

Jud (judibud) | 16799 comments I have to admit I was really disappointed, my friends rave about Twilight so after a few crap chapters I was at least waiting for some decent sex scenes, but no, deprived even of that!


message 18: by Elle (new)

Elle (louiselesley) | 6579 comments LOL.

Ye. I mean. The idea is essentially okay but the execution is what fails it completely.


message 19: by Sara (new)

Sara Boyd (saraboydauthor) | 1211 comments My daughter read them. She told me not to read them. I take her word for it. Didn't watch any of the films.


message 22: by Joo (last edited Jan 06, 2013 12:41PM) (new)

Joo (jooo) | 1351 comments I've not read the books, I think I've sat in front of the telly when the films were on (babysitting niece, so forced to), but OMG, that cake website !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



The birth ones are just mega.


Gingerlily - The Full Wild | 34228 comments Yes I have spent the last half an hour looking at it!


message 24: by Tim (new)

Tim | 8539 comments Will wrote: "I read the first 2. My daughter wanted them, and at 13 I was checking her reading material.

They were dreadfully written. And at 16 my teenager sneers now at their quality. (Although I'm not su..."


If I sold that many copies, I'd be quite happy to write that badly...


message 25: by Will (new)

Will Macmillan Jones (willmacmillanjones) | 11324 comments Only the americans would censor a cake...


message 26: by Sara (new)

Sara Boyd (saraboydauthor) | 1211 comments I wonder if those cakes taste as horrible as they look...


Rosemary (grooving with the Picts) (nosemanny) | 8591 comments I read the first book. It was extraordinarily average and quite frankly dull.


message 28: by Darren (new)

Darren Humphries (darrenhf) | 6903 comments OK, someone insisted that I read the first one because they had, like, vampires in them and all that. Talk about your 15 year old girl's wish fulfilment. Bella goes from being an unnoticed klutz to the most exotic girl in school by the simple expedient of ... moving to a new town? Really?

I am not the target demographic, but I was so not going to read any of the others.

The films were, at best, OK.

PS in the last scene of the last one when certain people are sitting in a field, why aren't they sparkling?

PSPS Vampires Do Not Sparkle. Ever.


message 29: by Jud (new)

Jud (judibud) | 16799 comments I wondered where this sparkly vampire thing came from but right enough :o)


message 30: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21817 comments Jud (Disney Diva) wrote: "I wondered where this sparkly vampire thing came from but right enough :o)"

It caused a great deal of amusement amongst friends of mine who'd played in a 'Dark Heresy' roleplaying campaign. There evil psykers and similar do sometimes glow.
In our games this was normally dealt with by superior and overwhelming firepower :-)

So 'the kids glowing' is still used as an 'in joke' when someone's beloved child is in full brat mode


message 31: by SewingandCaring (new)

SewingandCaring (washyourhands) Jim wrote: "(I was once asked to leave one gathering because I kept laughing during the martial arts scenes when Buffy was on TV, so I've only seen ten minutes of her as well :-)) "


The majority of buffy fight scenes were meant to be funny on a few levels, you had a lot of obvious fight jokes but they were also very knowingly over the top and hammy at all times and the stunt people themselves would throw in some martial arts in-jokes. I suspect the people that asked you to leave said viewing didn't quite *get* the show as laughter is a acceptable reaction to a lot of it, particularly if it involves spike.

The only time fighting was really taken seriously was when a major character died but even then the two most serious non-buffy deaths were just normal and non-vampire related. It makes a lot more sense when you know that it was Joss Whedon's baby (see also; The avengers).


message 32: by Jim (last edited Jan 07, 2013 04:52AM) (new)

Jim | 21817 comments Learnin Curve wrote: "The majority of buffy fight scenes were meant to be funny on a few levels, you had a lot of obvious fight jokes but they were also very knowingly over the top and hammy at all times and the stunt people themselves would throw in some martial arts in-jokes. I suspect the people that asked you to leave said viewing didn't quite *get* the show as laughter is a acceptable reaction to a lot of it, particularly if it involves spike.

The only time fighting was really taken seriously was when a major character died but even then the two most serious non-buffy deaths were just normal and non-vampire related. It makes a lot more sense when you know that it was Joss Whedon's baby (see also; The avengers)...."


I did a fair bit of waddo Karate at one point, but I've never been 'part of the scene' so the in-jokes would probably have passed me by. What I remember laughing at was the effect of the blows.
The problem is, thanks to my laughing I only ever saw ten minutes of the programme, so am not entirely sure who or what spike is.
I've heard of Joss Whedon, (I've mates who are into who wrote what etc,) but just discovered after checking wiki that I've perhaps never seen any of his work :-)
I tend to be wary of slagging off books etc, because some people genuinely love them, and what appeals to one person in a book may not appeal to another. Twilight I've avoided, my daughter who was perhaps the target audience, told me to avoid it as she thought it poor. Buffy, I saw ten minutes of and wasn't tempted to repeat the experience.

But then I really enjoyed the Hobbit so none of us is perfect.


message 33: by SewingandCaring (new)

SewingandCaring (washyourhands) Jim wrote: What I remember laughing at was the effect of the blows.
Ah it's the crash bang boom whap style of fighting. Typical fight would be small blonde teenage girl in a graveyard gets jumped by huge fanged monster, she immediately stakes him and is then thrown several feet though the air and through a gravestone by his much larger hidden friend. Small blonde teenage girl rolls her eyes, does a kip up then kicks him so hard that he flies though the air and is impaled on a handy tree branch. Small blonde teenage girl then says something witty and sarcastic.


message 34: by Darren (new)

Darren Humphries (darrenhf) | 6903 comments Learnin Curve wrote: "Jim wrote: What I remember laughing at was the effect of the blows.
Ah it's the crash bang boom whap style of fighting. Typical fight would be small blonde teenage girl in a graveyard gets jumped b..."


And wasn't that just fine? If it's realism you want can I steer you in the direction of Being Human.


message 35: by SewingandCaring (new)

SewingandCaring (washyourhands) Darren wrote: "Learnin Curve wrote:
And wasn't that just fine? If it's realism you want can I steer you in the direction of Being Human"


Oh I agree, I was a huge buffy fan when it was on and was older than the target demographic at the time so viewed it though critical nerd eyes, and it rarely disappointed. I would much rather see buffy/marvel/doctor who type fighting than any mindless violence any day. I like the idea of vampires and the supernatural but huge quantities of blood just for the shock factor isn't my thing, I much prefer a nice bit of suspense and a "Boo!" out of nowhere.


message 36: by Tim (new)

Tim | 8539 comments May I recommend Firefly, as another Joss Whedon show that was brilliant but sadly short-lived. Easily got hold of though on DVD & Netflix.

Also, James Marsters, who played Spike on Buffy, is a brilliant narrator of audiobooks for those nice Audible people (as is Wil Wheaton, of BBT and ST-TNG fame)


message 37: by Elle (new)

Elle (louiselesley) | 6579 comments Joss Whedon is my GOD.


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