fiction files redux discussion
inside/outside - the files beyond cyberspace
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At the very least, we should have a T-shirt.
Perhaps something other than a giraffe.
Perhaps something other than a giraffe.
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i even loved that crazy ewwwa. :P
and adrian, i love you and you make me laugh. :)
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MATIJA:
i feel obligated to comment even though i haven’t been on here for months... Margi..."
. . .as long as its a slutty little number that barely conceals my wedding tackle, i'm okay with it being something other than a giraffe . . .
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wedding tackle, hmm. that's a new one to me. i like it (the term not your bait and bobbers JE).
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i'm all for going and holding the ff live in person at scott's house.
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I have this vision of a Web 2.5 or 3.0, where we can all build modular, mutable profiles based on our interests; ask our friends to join branches of the larger network based on shared interests... profiles in which users could choose what information is shown to which friends, and which branches... where everyone is searchable but only if they wish to be... a network that respects privacy and allows for different levels of social interaction... like videoconferencing... or even SMS... that connects all of these crazy devices we’re attached to... a network with a mutable, maybe even user defined taxonomy... a network that presents potential new users as friends that make sense based on interest, not the high schools we attend...
... where I can send people Muppets or talk about great literature, or force people to listen to the music I like...
But sadly we are stuck in Web 1.0 and 2.0. Each time you join a new network you have to re-fill out different information and re-find friends, a world of "web sites" and "domains"... and search sucks ass.
I am really interested in these ideas and I feel that we are moving in that direction. The need for the fiction files to evolve as well is essential. If I knew anything about programming I would get to work immediately on a project like this.
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I have this vision of a Web 2.5 or 3.0, where we can all build modular, mutable profiles based on our interests; ask our friends to join branches of the l..."
. . . hint hint, shel!
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But it is The Dream many of us had of the Web when the first browser hit the scene. It was all I used to talk about with all of my Internet buddies when I first started doing things like learning HTML, FTP, gopher, all of that stuff. Changing government. Direct access to your representatives. An incredible shared network of information that all humans had access to, in any language they chose, and totally free.
When I worked at About.com we talked about all kinds of neat things particularly around kids using the Internet... like kid-driven content, allowance wallets for music downloads and such, safe chat rooms, and kid safety online in general.
Heady days, the mid-90s. And then: the banner ad.
The problem now is that MySpace owns its members. Facebook owns its members. GoodReads. And so on. And their revenue model is at least in some part based on unique members, return visit and site stickiness.
If you shared too much of the exact same member base, who knows what could happen?! Happy users!?
We can't have THAT!!!!
Maybe if I went to work at One Infinite Loop... :-)
Lauren wrote: "OH and does everyone remember the "whip cream and cinnamon in their coffee" guy?! He was the life of the party, he was ..."
He was an elderly man who wrote an old-fashioned detective novel that he posted in his blog. He just couldn't accept that life wasn't a 1936 pulp magazine.
And there was the pudgy gal who devoted her life to reading romance novels and had a nervous breakdown when someone posted a negative article on "chick lit" trends. She thought it must be a personal attack, but nobody had any idea who she was.
Ah, nostalgia ...
The smartest thing I ever did was to delete two of my previous accounts and thereby jettison about a hundred posts.
He was an elderly man who wrote an old-fashioned detective novel that he posted in his blog. He just couldn't accept that life wasn't a 1936 pulp magazine.
And there was the pudgy gal who devoted her life to reading romance novels and had a nervous breakdown when someone posted a negative article on "chick lit" trends. She thought it must be a personal attack, but nobody had any idea who she was.
Ah, nostalgia ...
The smartest thing I ever did was to delete two of my previous accounts and thereby jettison about a hundred posts.
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As far as this group goes..*shrug* Maybe I'm too new to understand the need for something else, something more. I guess I didn't realize we needed more...I have trouble keeping up with all of you now, especially with work, school, and now the GRE quizzing I've been giving myself (BTW - if anyone wants to help me study for my GRE Lit test, let me know! =D ).
I have to say that the Files seem to "fit" better with a group like Goodreads where the people here like to read enough to join a group/site that focuses on reading. That being said, it would be nice to see some new faces and not feel like I'm the baby of the bunch anymore. I feel like I've been the Freshman in this high school for the past 2 years and it's getting old, damnit!
Oh...and I can't believe you guys don't love me for my love of romance novels! OMG! *cuddles on her bed with the latest Danielle Steele novel and cries*
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sounds like you may need a PFL for that satirical remark! hope you're in the queue though i expect that copy may have since been tainted. hope the pages aren't sticking. JE?
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sounds like you may need a ..."
Eww!! Don't believe I am in the queue right now...I'm slightly afraid of that book after hearing all of you talk about it.
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Sounds like a promising recipient for the annual Fiction File Scholarship prize.
MATIJA:
i feel obligated to comment even though i haven’t been on here for months... Margie just messaged me about the goodreads, so might check that out,
but as a general rule, tho, i think mypace is dying.
how odd...it’s like some digital village being abandoned certainly there will be many others (until perhaps we are literally in the digital world ourselves)but for the most part, will there ever be the same energy there once was? i haven’t been the longest on here, but i remember posting as early as 2006, and i couldn’t believe how thriving this group was perhaps because it was such a new sensation,
no one knew what the hell this was or etiquette or where it would go 3 years later, and some of the buzz is wearing off for most people...Me, i’d still love the opportunity to chat about books with the interesting ppl on here whenever i want, but i don’t know if it will ever be as thriving as it once was on any site it was kind of the surreal magic of being on new grounds kind of like when razor skooters first came out
and it seems now the die hards will stick around
but for the most part, the general public will just go back to whatever new trend
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. . . excellent points, all . . . the key now is to take all these great minds and create something else new and exciting . . . the forum in and of itself will never be the same as it was, nor should it aim to be . . . we'll always manage to gather and regather at some new venue as the technology and social networking evolves, and that, i think, is exactly the strength of what we've created . . . no change of venue, nothing can stop us from gathering and regathering . . . i love this idea of the fictionphiles as the jews of cyberspace . . . i'm really excited about mo and others effort to re-invigorate the troops--we need to find ways to bring this community to a new level . . . we've built such an amazing social network, i almost wish we could design the next wave of social networking ourselves, on our own site, instead of being beholden to any flavor of the week . . . seems to me the next step may lay OUTSIDE of cyberspace . . . stuff like dorkapalooza and the museum of literature and the creation of a culture which exists both within and without the cyber realm . . . that's been my interest from the beginning of starting the files-- creating culture . . .