City of Bones (The Mortal Instruments, #1) City of Bones discussion


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maybe an odd question, but- do christians like these books?

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SassyPsycho I'm a christian and LOVE this series sooo good. God talks about demons in the bible so you can't really say any thing. but I do love this series.

And if another christian does not like this series it's up to them.

But this series ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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mj As long as you keep fiction and reality seperate, it's okay :)
I'm a Christian and I LOVE these books


Alexandria I am a Christian also and I loved the book. Again it has to do with the persons personal view points and perspectives.


Loretta Lawrence I'm a Christian, and I had absolutely no problem with ANY urban fantasy books, Harry Potter and ever Percy Jackson and the Kane Chronicles. None of these books ever explicitly point out religion so they are fine. They're not Satanic or anything.


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Rachel I am Christian, and I just finished City of Bones this morning, actually, and I LOVED it. I actually really liked the beginning when Clare wrote a twist of one of the Beatitudes into Jace's line: The land may be inherited by the meek but for now it belongs to the conceited like me -or something like that. I liked how she was able to put faith in there, or the question of faith, to have readers think about. And actually, Harry Potter is debated because he basically plays the role of Jesus in the series. I liked those books a lot as well.


Allie I love these books and I'm a Christian! To be honest, I don't think people are able to see the Christian views in the books such as Harry Potter. And I went to a Catholic school for nine years, where the higher English class read The Hobbit. I think as long as you realize that the books are fantasy not realistic fiction then it's fine.


Somerandom Hmm I once encountered some hardcore Christian dead set against HP. He said it encouraged kids to believe in ressurection. I said so does Jesus. He didn't speak to me again.


Jenna i am a christian, but to be a good fantasy book, sometimes it is better not to mention religion. It does bother me sometimes about the angels in this book because it can be a little confusing and it bothers me in the slightest. Nevertheless, these are great books and i dont take it personally. i know what i believe and it doesn't matter to me because they are just books.


Valerie The series actually uses Jewish angels, demons, and other lore. And it's pretty religious, even more blatantly than Narnia.

Shadowhunters are tied with religion so completely that the two cannot be clearly separated – every religious institution supports them with caches of weapons. Jace quotes “Mea Culpa” out of the Mass, and says honor, fault and penance are required for Shadowhunters. It’s deeper than belief – it’s the code they live by. Learning about some of these concepts aids a deeper understanding of what Jace, Clary and their friends are fighting for.
Jem describes religious texts as “instruction manuals” for the Shadowhunters (Clockwork Prince 91). Certainly, they contain the source material for angels, demons, and other supernatural forces. All Shadowhunter lifecycle events: births, deaths, marriages, are surrounded by ritual, and much of that ritual is Biblical in nature, whatever the individual Shadowhunters believe (granted, we’ve only seen Britain and America – cultures in the far East, for instance, might be different). Jem quotes the Biblical Song of Songs, sometimes called the Song of Solomon, when describing the runes from a Shadowhunter wedding: “Set me as a seal upon thine heart, as a seal upon thine arm; for love is strong as death; jealousy is cruel as the grave” (8:6). Shadowhunters part with the word Mizpah, from the story of Laban, quoting the Bible passage: “And Mizpah; for he said, The Lord watch between me and thee, when we are absent one from another” (King James Bible, Genesis 31:49). The Parabatai ritual likewise originates in the stories of the Old Testament.
Most of Clare’s sources come directly from the Bible, together with its Apocrypha and the Jewish books that followed, such as the mystical Zohar. Related works such as Dante’s Inferno and Paradise Lost are quoted often, along with other classics. At the same time, Japanese kitsune and oni lurk between the pages alongside Judeo-Christian demons. Jordan’s tattoos, shaantih shaantih shaantih, are a Hindu mantra for peace from the Upanishads, traditionally recited at the beginning and end of religious study. Shadowhunters evoke the Muslim angels Malik, Nakir, and Munkir, emphasizing that all religions fight on the same side in this war.


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Faith Howell I'm sorry but I have to say this. A lot of you are saying, "I'm a Christian but I'm not super religious." or, "I'm a Christian but not a HEAVY christian." I am a Christian and I am not ashamed to say that. Now I know that some of you will agree. When you claim you are a christian but then say you are not religious, you are contradicting yourself. Being a Christian IS being religious. You cannot have it one way or the other. So, if you are truly a christian, you ARE religious. Don't be afraid to be a Christian. Don't be afraid to state that you are religious. Because no matter what, no matter how much hate you might get from it, remember there is a God who loves you and will respect you for your statement of following him. So I encourage you, tell people of Christ. Save them from themselves. Let them go to Heaven with you. For all of you who may have questions, just ask! We would be glad to answer you and help you know Jesus too. :)
- Concerned Christian


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Hannah Kelly I don't consider myself Christian so I'm probably not who you are looking for an answer from, but I know there are plenty of Christians who read fantasy of all types. So it just depends on who you ask. To me it seems the Christians with a problem with books like these are the fundamentalists.


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Hannah Kelly Somerandom wrote: "Hmm I once encountered some hardcore Christian dead set against HP. He said it encouraged kids to believe in ressurection. I said so does Jesus. He didn't speak to me again."

Um yeah that's weird. That whole part in Harry potter seemed to me it could be read as a Christian allegory like in narnia.


Faith Howell Hannah wrote: "Somerandom wrote: "Hmm I once encountered some hardcore Christian dead set against HP. He said it encouraged kids to believe in ressurection. I said so does Jesus. He didn't speak to me again."

Um..."


I, as a Christian, have read all types of fantasy books. Personally, it is my favorite genre. I think you guys might have gotten the wrong idea. I wasn't trying to hate on fantasy just bc I was a christian. I think reading books such as these or HP books is okay as long as you don't let in change who you are or influence in a bad way.
P.S
I absolutely loveeee this series/HP. Both great stories!


Login Shalaby ok I am a Muslim and I read those books and didn't have any problem as I know that all this is fictional and nothing of it is true so why just don't read it. Maybe that is wrong but I think as long as I don't believe in it it's bot that big deal. I don't read it as if I am reading Quran or The Bible to believe in, I am reading it just for the plot nothing more nor less.It is really well written and that's it.


message 65: by Victoria (last edited Feb 02, 2017 06:27PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Victoria I'm a Christian and I REALLY enjoyed reading the first 3 books of the series and look forward to read the next! Please understand that for us, our relationship with Jesus its WAY more important than books, movies or anything else, that's why sometimes we avoid some books and stuff. When the story leads someone to sin, this person would have to stop the reading of the book because it would affect they're relationship with God. I hope that this comment was helpful :)


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Matthew McKaine I am a Christian and I enjoyed reading this book. I liked the writing style and I had no problem with the spirituality of it, because most of the things there were partly Biblical. Demons are a real threat to humans, (although maybe not so much physically). The Nephilim were real, although they were definitely created differently. There doesn't seem to be any actual magic that is shown as good, or encouraged.

The actual problem I did have with the book was the suggestion that if God were real, he wouldn't care for humanity anyway. One other thing I disliked, and was surprised when no one else mentioned it, was the homosexuality. It is my personal belief that the Bible says homosexuality is wrong, and as much as I try to love ALL people, regardless of their sin, I still don't care to have that stuff in a book that I read for entertainment.

Of course this is all just my personal held convictions about what the Bible says. So if you feel convicted that this book isn't for you, then that's okay.


Andrea I am a Christian, Roman Catholic to be exact. But I never had a feeling that I should stop reading because of all these demonic and angel things. In fact, it pulled me even deeper. I don't get why people always associate religion with FICTIONAL stories about magic and demons. They are sorted as FICTION for a reason.


TheShadowchronicles There's nothing particularly offensive before Sebastian Morgenstern's introduction. After that, you can expect all kinds of annoying things. The whole twisting of the Our Father was something that bothered me personally, and the many demonic things that Sebastian said. But apart from that, I adore the books, and the series is one of my favourites.


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L O Emma wrote: "I'm Christian and Cassandra Clare's books are my absolute favorite books!"


agreed


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Hope i am a white christian female and i love these books, there are even times when i wish some elements of the books were true but i know the difference between fact and fiction.


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Chrystal Here is the thing... I’m a Christian and I find that these books aren’t bad to read. I mean you have to take it from the perspective that demons are bad and that angels exist witches or wizards or vamps and such yes are satanic BUT I enjoy this series based off Shadow Hunters because I’m fascinated with them because I feel it exposes demons and teaches that the shadow hunters aka angels fight the demons... so to say that these books are not good to read as a Christian is rediculous now for Harry Potter never was into it because that was pure witchcraft and taught nothing positive so ya


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Maci Yes we do.


Ainslie I am Christian And I LOVE Cassandra Clare!!


Aubrey I am a Christian and I absolutely love these books.


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Amy wrote: "I'm also a Christian and I love reading urban fantasy (the Mortal Insturments is one of my favorites). Sadly, my dad was one of those crazy people that freaked out over the HP series :/
He (and tho..."


I also read the HP series when i was younger and had the same parental reaction but i do have to say , i now know why it is satanic . Simply saying witchcraft etc. Is evil does not explain anything to anyone unless they are familiar with witchcraft and satanism the real versions instead of what kids who read the book are presented with and think it is ..... there are specific reasons why the Hp series actually is satanic .


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Fabienne wrote: "I'm a Christian and i love these book and loads of others that can be considered ten times worse"

Be careful, you may want to limit that or restrict what you read because despite thinking of it as fairytales the mind does not filter everything and can pick up messages that it stores in the subconscious.


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karisakun wrote: "Im a christian and yeah i didn't like city of bones but not because of the reasons you might think but because i just didn't like the characters much.
I LOVE Harry Potter books and I think I (I'm ..."


The reason the HP series is actually satanic is not because people think its going to take a child’s mind to a fantasy land they think is real , its because the entire series is littered with satanic symbols and messages .


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Zara Kezia wrote: "I am a Christian, but I love reading sci-fi and fantasy books. I'm okay with TMI even though I didn't love it that much because of the plot and etc. But my dad is a super religious Christian that h..."
I am christian, but my family isn't VERY christian. My parents let me read whatever I want as long as it isn't inappropriate etc. Also I have friends who are atheists but I respect them.
To be honest I think people should read what they want. So if you find Harry Potter Offensive don't read it. But I think it's very wrong to tell other people what they should and shouldn't be reading


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Zara My favourite genre is YA - that includes: Si-fi, Adventure fantasy, supernatural romance and other stuff. When I read a book I keep in mind that this is all NOT REAL for example the demons in TMI. tbh the only reason my father was slightly opposed to TMI was because the characters were covered in runes, and he believes that it promotes tattoos. But even then he told me that I should decide for myself and he brought all 6 books for my birthday. Now we have different opinions but we respect them.


Keera Loa I'm Catholic but not heavy on religion. I love these books all the same!!!


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hehe i am a christian and i absolutely love these books so much!!!!


message 84: by Keren (last edited Aug 17, 2020 03:41AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Keren I am a very devout Christian, and I belong to a very conservative Christian Protestant family. I absolutely love the SC books. While I was not a huge fan of the first and second books in the TMI series, I do love the TDA and TID series with all my heart. The books do such an amazing job of portraying LGBTQ+ characters without any bias and stereotypes, and they have story lines that are not about coming out, and story lines that actually take the plot forward. And while that is not a big issue in books nowadays, it goes a long way for closeted Christian queer teens like me.
My parents however, dislike the series despite me saying that it is purely fiction. Apparently books are written by the driving force of spirits. And while I believe in angels and demons, I do not believe in such preposterous ideas. Also according to my parents, all my anxiety attacks are due to 'those fantasy spirit filled Shadowhunter books' I read. LOL :-)
I never really got the fuss about the Harry Potter books. In my house saying Harry Potter is not allowed, and talking about it is completely unimaginable.
There was the whole fuss over Harry Potter spells being used to summon demons. Yes, because saying 'Aguamenti' ,'Alohomora' and 'Avada Kedavra' in front of a Ouija board actually summons demons, right? If that were the case,then me saying all of these spells (minus the Ouija board) would have summoned multiple demons years ago.
I really get irritated when someone says ignorant things like this. I mean most kids who read Harry Potter are not idiots, they know that magic is not real and that there is a very slim chance that saying 'Accio' will actually summon anything (I said slim, so if anyone has dome it please tell me how ;-D).
These books are all purely fictional and should not be feared unnecessarily.


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