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Aug 03, 2014 11:37AM
You, too, Marian! So funny... was just noticing I'd somehow managed to add a link in the beginning of my post just above, and was confounded by how I'd managed it. Then noticed I'd written 3 w's back to back. Doh! Linkage to nowhere...
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OddModicum Rachel wrote: "Hiya, everyone! I'm Rachel aka OddModicum Rachel.. just plain 'odd' works, too. ;) I'm a mad voracious reader of many genres, but love a good gritty mystery and really well written police procedura..."Hi Rachel, Nice to meet you here., I must read the above. I'm somewhat cynical about these CSI courses as don't feel that they are truly reflective of good crime procedures, they tend to glorify the job, when it is anything but glamorous.
Hi there, Etain! I can't say that I'm an authority on the subject, so that may well be true in a way... I wouldn't know. But that sort of goes back to something I was discussing with an author buddy who writes alternative-historical fantasy thrillers filled with religious mythology.... We were talking about my experiences learning about Catholicism and history of the Catholic Church when I attended parochial grade school/middle school/high schools as a non-Catholic, and how much both of us enjoy our own casual research into 'ancient mysteries' and gnosticsm and the like. There is a fine line of what level of research is realistically possible for a writer to do to ensure all of the 'details' of his craft are just right... He'd love to attend seminary, and spend years and years in academic study, but that's just not feasible, realistically. lol So imo, its pretty darn cool of an author who's trying to write novels as technically accurate as possible to engage in a field of study to gain deeper understanding of the subject, if that makes sense. lol
Just realized I was about as clear as mud with that explanation. ;) I'm myself not a writer... I wish. I'm an avid reader trying to get into line-editing and cover art design. My buddy is the writer.. we're just both intrigued by religious history so we explore what we can.
OddModicum Rachel wrote: "Hi there, Etain! I can't say that I'm an authority on the subject, so that may well be true in a way... I wouldn't know. But that sort of goes back to something I was discussing with an author budd..."Agree with you there, academia can be somewhat limited though useful, I guess none of us could get it 100 pc right
You betcha', Leigh... I'd love to see if any in the group have any particular suggestions of novels or even non-fic history in that vein. I'll peek at the group structure, and figure out where to stick a new thread soonish, then link back here. And Etain... you're 100% right about that. I imagine with a somewhat 'hard' science like forensics its a bit easier to not get things heinously wrong, but with a subject as amorphous as religious mythology... well geez... source material is all contradictory, and history is decided by the victor, in any case. Who knows what actually happened way back when? lol
Thanks Rachel, yes, mythology is a good one, but so many spiritual tales told and so so many different religions it would take you a lifetime of research to cover that one.
Glad to have you, Rachel. I can think of two series that could interest you. One is CJ Sansom's brilliant Matthew Shardlake series. He is a hunchback lawyer in Henry VIII's time. The first one involves the dissolution of a monastery. The other one is Elly Griffith's Ruth Galloway's series. She is a forensic archeologist in Norfolk, England. It's quite good and even features a Druid character.
((oh swoon!)).. am a big fan of aaaanything well written that incorporates modern age archaeology with ancient paganism/Christianity... That is such my cup of tea, esp with Druidry involved. I will absolutely check both of those out! btw, is there anything particular in group rules or regs that would prevent me from copy/pasting chatter here into the new thread, assuming I credit the original poster? Don't want to trod upon any toes.
I love both of the series and am anxiously waiting for Sansom's new release in Oct. I suggest you read both in order especially the Griffith's one. I love Ruth as she is chubby, very good at what she does and couldn't care one bit about fashion. She is a wonderful role model.
rofl... ok, off to take care of it now, and get our banter out of your (shamelessly hijacked by me... sorry!) intro thread. ;) Indiana is a lovely rather dashing example, certainly. I'm due for a rewatch of those movies. I also get such a kick out of The Librarian movies with Noah Wylie... if you've not seen em, they're quite fun.
Will come back with a link...
Susan wrote: "Glad to have you, Rachel. I can think of two series that could interest you. One is CJ Sansom's brilliant Matthew Shardlake series. He is a hunchback lawyer in Henry VIII's time. The first one invo..."Probably been mentioned before, but Cadfael is also a good one
Here's our new thread... hope I placed it in the right section, but by all means, do move it if its in the wrong area. I'll dig up a list of talking points and put together all of the suggestions for reads here (unless you guys who made suggestions for reads/series would consider hopping over and adding them... either way). So excited! Can't wait to tell my buddy Mark Douglas Holborn that our 'babble fests' about our favorite topics have been given their own thread. and we'll get input from other intelligent readers! What a gloriously fun group! Here's the link...Historical & Alt-His Mystery..... Mythology, Religion, & Mysteries of the Ancients
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
Etain wrote: "Susan wrote: "Glad to have you, Rachel. I can think of two series that could interest you. One is CJ Sansom's brilliant Matthew Shardlake series. He is a hunchback lawyer in Henry VIII's time. The ..."I've actually not heard of Cadfael... I'll definitely hunt up the books!
Susan re: "I love Ruth as she is chubby, very good at what she does and couldn't care one bit about fashion. She is a wonderful role model." It is safe to say that you are a woman after my own heart. Lovely to meet you!
OddModicum Rachel wrote: "Etain wrote: "Susan wrote: "Glad to have you, Rachel. I can think of two series that could interest you. One is CJ Sansom's brilliant Matthew Shardlake series. He is a hunchback lawyer in Henry VII..."He is a medieval monk, a television series was made of the books.
Etain wrote: "OddModicum Rachel wrote: "Etain wrote: "Susan wrote: "Glad to have you, Rachel. I can think of two series that could interest you. One is CJ Sansom's brilliant Matthew Shardlake series. He is a hun..."Huh! Very interested in historical abbey stuff. I'm a little astounded I'd not run across him in my hunting, but SO thankful you were here and mentioned it! I'll check out both books and tv show. We were just chatting bout Eco's Name of the Rose book/film today. ;)
Rachel re my CSI courses: Initially I started the program at a local college out of curiosity. After a year of full-time course work I've decided that on completion of the program I'll volunteer at the county sheriff's office to work on cold cases. A dectective friend of mind suggested this.
As for the quality of the program, this is the real deal.
Etain wrote: "Susan wrote: "Glad to have you, Rachel. I can think of two series that could interest you. One is CJ Sansom's brilliant Matthew Shardlake series. He is a hunchback lawyer in Henry VIII's time. The ..."LOVE Cadfael! Ellis Peters, have all the books and all of the dvds.
Hi Theresa. It's good to see you here.
OddModicum Rachel wrote: "Etain wrote: "OddModicum Rachel wrote: "Etain wrote: "Susan wrote: "Glad to have you, Rachel. I can think of two series that could interest you. One is CJ Sansom's brilliant Matthew Shardlake serie..."Hi Rachel,everyone, the thing about Ellis Peter's Cadfael, is that it is so addictive and easy to read, Umburto Eco, is a different matter, way more dark and eerie and requires more preseverance.
Would be interested to know if the book shop Murder Ink, is still open on Dawson St, in Dublin, I've heard there is one in New York.
Hello i am bumba.i am from India.i have joined this group recently since i love to read mystery books(well not as much as you guys)esp psychological crime thrillers and scandinavian stuffs,hoping to have a good time.ps:Sorry, i am not good at introduction,but then you guys probably know it already
Hi Bumba and Theresa! I'm newish, as well. ;) This is a lovely very helpful group, so hope you both enjoy it! Bumba, I'm definitely going to have to delve more into Scandinavian mystery/thrillers... about the only ones I've read are the Millennium Trilogy, and I certainly enjoyed that. Etain, I'm glad you mentioned that Cadfael is rather effortless. I love Eco, but boy.. you do indeed have to be in the right frame of mind to get into it. And rather determined. And have a nice quiet room to read in with no distractions. lol Murder Ink sounds delicious... I've not been to Dublin, alas, but I was just playing around with the concept of using 'Ink' as opposed to 'Inc.' after the OddModicum in my blog name. Then I threw in the towel and decided to use OddModicum's Allsorts instead. lol The Ink thing is a nice play on words. I still mourn the loss of my fave bookstore, Book Soup, in Los Angeles. I think it still exists. I'm just not there anymore. ;)
Alan, that is truly fabulous... there's something so poignant and bereft about cold cases. Being a victim of a violent crime is horrifying enough for victim family the police etc who work on victim's behalf... but the concept of having your case file consigned to a deep dark drawer just heaps on more tragedy. Nature of the beast, obviously, but its nice that you'd dedicate so much of your time working on their behalf. Especially lovely to think that the cases you assist on, whether solved or not eventually, will no longer be forgotten.
Rachel, don't they have the Poisoned Pen Book Store in Phoenix? It's supposed to be wonderful.
They may well have, I just almost never get to Phoenix. I'm in Glendale, and getting out period is a challenge. Plus, honestly... I'd be hesitant to walk into a good one at this point, cause I'd be so frustrated I'm broke! lol I'll make a point of getting to it at some point, though. Just the title alone is delicious.
OddModicum Rachel wrote: "Hi Bumba and Theresa! I'm newish, as well. ;) This is a lovely very helpful group, so hope you both enjoy it! Bumba, I'm definitely going to have to delve more into Scandinavian mystery/thrillers....."The Scandinavian thrillers seem to be all the rage at the moment,wouldn't be to my taste though, very dark and depressing at times., although very well written, I wonder how long it will last, and the Italians are not far behind, it seems'
In referal to Alan's post re cold cases, it is an area that I would tread lightly in. Writing about tragedies is very hard for both the writer and the families, involved. though drawing on experience is far more effective in the long run, or so I have been told.
I don't know how far Glendale is from Phoenix. The Poisoned Pen is Diana Gabaldon's home bookstore and always has a great line-up of authors speaking. I'm glad I don't live too close or I would live in it.
Hello, All! We are archaeologists and authors who love great suspense stories. Currently reading a very suspenseful non-fiction book, CLEOPATRA. A LIFE, by Stacy Schiff. This won the Pulitzer Prize a few years ago, and reads like a thriller. We read everything that keeps us glued to the page.
Hi Kathleen and welcome to you both:)
Susan wrote: "I don't know how far Glendale is from Phoenix. The Poisoned Pen is Diana Gabaldon's home bookstore and always has a great line-up of authors speaking. I'm glad I don't live too close or I would liv..."lol I didn't know she was from this area! Only read her first 2 so far, but very much looking forward to the show premiere. Looks like a fantasy fairytale come to life, and killer costuming and cast. I do know Kevin Hearne (Iron Druid series) lives locally, and he always talks about Rula Bula, which apparently is one of the best fish and chips type english pubs in the us. So that's somewhere I'd love to get to, also. ;) And answer is they're not at all far, Glendale and Phoenix... 10 min to 30 or 45 at the outside, in traffic. I just have a hard time getting out and being out and around for hours on end with my health yuck, so I tend to stick very close to home, normally. Both bookstore and pub sound way worth it to find a way, though! ;)
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Kathleen wrote: "Hello, All! We are archaeologists and authors who love great suspense stories. Currently reading a very suspenseful non-fiction book, CLEOPATRA. A LIFE, by Stacy Schiff. This won the Pulitzer Pr..."HI there, Kathleen, and welcome! That Cleopatra non-fic sounds seriously entertaining... I love when a good non-fic author manages to bring his subject and history to life, and it reads more like fiction. Academia is fine, and very useful, but I do like a little plot and action. ;) And such a strange coincidence, but I literally was just asking if anyone had any great 'archaeologist or historian' actioners using history and relics to solve a crime, or even a 'big' mystery... thinking like fiction along the lines of Indiana Jones, National Treasure, and The Librarian movie plot lines. Anyway, if you ever have any suggestions... its right here in message #81. I really loved Kathy Reich's Cross Bones in the Temperance Brennan series if that gives you any ideas.
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
Hi there, Eve! You know, I've not read Mystic River, because at the time it came out I was incredibly busy... very little time to read. I forgot it existed till you mentioned it just now. ;) Going straight on my 'short stack'. Thanks for that!
Kathleen wrote: "Hello, All! We are archaeologists and authors who love great suspense stories. Currently reading a very suspenseful non-fiction book, CLEOPATRA. A LIFE, by Stacy Schiff. This won the Pulitzer Pr..."Hi! It's good to have you here. I read Cleopatra a few years ago and liked it very much. It's difficult to make a non-fiction read like fiction but Schiff does it very well.
Rachel, I am sorry about your health.
Myself personally loved both books!!Dennis is an excellent writer but those 2 books are fantastic in there own stories.
Am I the only person who thought Schiff overdid the list of Cleopatra's accomplishments? I was glad to read about what an accomplished woman she was, but I got tired of the repetitive style Schiff chose. Of course, that style is popular these days. Women are daughters and mothers and sisters and aunts and pet owners and high school graduates and middle school graduates and book readers and movie goers and ...
She did go a little overboard but I liked the story anyway.
Eve wrote: "Leigh wrote: "Eve, is Mystic River better than Shutter Island?Oh, and welcome. Great to have someone else who loves Dennis Lehane here."
Hi! I prefer MYSTIC RIVER but ..."
I'm currently reading Shutter Island too. I think I might have enjoyed it a lot more if I hadn't already seen the movie. But then, I'm only at...30% or so.
Yep. So far the movie seems to have represented the book very well.
Leigh wrote: "I agree, Leslie. To really enjoy shutter island the ending HAS TO come as a complete surprise."I've not read Shutter Island yet, either... though at least I own it, so its there when work my way to it. But did anyone else figure out the ending about halfway thru the film? Wondering if the book foreshadowing is that way as well.
Hello everyone! Such a fun and exciting discussion going on here!
Leslie wrote: "Yep. So far the movie seems to have represented the book very well."I agree:)
hello , I am 21, and i am currently doing my bachelors in Law. I am a die hard fan of mystery thrillers but i like to always stretch my readings and so i also read history, biographies, philosophy, psychology and classic literature... i hope this group proves to be of help and fun.
Marian wrote: "Nice to meet you Abubakar)"nice to meet you too Marian :)
Kat wrote: "Hello everyone! Such a fun and exciting discussion going on here!"Hi Kat..what are you reading at the moment and enjoying?
Just popped in to say "hi" to everyone. Welcome to all the new folks. Stayin' busy.. Eat, Sleep, Read, Work, that's my life. Mostly the last 2. Been reading your new thread there, Oddmodicum Rachel, Lovin' it! Have a couple of books to recommend if I can find them in our shelves/boxes of books. Have over 3000 on our personal library.
(jaw drops).. Ok, now that is my kinda house! Full o' books! Thanks, Tonya!
Hello all, I'm Alicia, and I live in Edmond, Oklahoma. Suspense/Mystery/Thriller is my favorite genre. I am happy to be here with like-minded readers. As for the Mystic River discussion, I haven't read Shutter Island, although I started it and couldn't get into it. I have read Mystic River, and absolutely loved it. I doubt Shutter Island could possibly be as good.
But "Shutter Island" is good Alicia!Its not a big book.Its as good as the movie was.There both very good books just very different stories.
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