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Group feedback on the issue of drop n runs, please.
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Lorraine
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Dec 27, 2012 12:13PM
Spanking? I'm staying now, no more running !
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I think she went to find her whip Patti, and to make sure that the boiling custard is - er- boiling.
My goodness, everything I have ever heard about the English has just been proven true...
I think the last half dozen posts prove that Goodreads is a fun place and a lot of the people hanging out on it are friends.Approaching as a writer, I've sort of got the hang of my own promo threads. BUT in reality, for them to stay alive, you cannot just post into a vacuum, you've got to have people coming back to you and responding to the posts.
Before people do that, you've got to interact with them on other threads, like Morning, or Grumpy or whereever.
So as a writer I think you've got to commit yourself to the forum.
Where the problem comes is when something good happens, a new book comes out or you get a brilliant review. Then you have to fight the temptation to mention it on an 'inappropriate' thread.
Actually I've noticed our moderators are pretty good about this and don't slap your wrists too hard (bet Gingerlily will pick up on that one).
The other thing authors can do is support each other a bit. If you do spot someone just starting, at the very least encourage a bit of discussion on their author thread.
But generally I'd say treat the forum as if it was a bunch of mates and just participate as fully as you have time to.
It is overwhelming when you first find it, it outfaced me and I was on usenet back in the 1990s!
But hey, it's more fun than working and there are some nice folk here.
Also, on a serious note, I've had invaluable feedback from people here, and my writing has improved immensely because of it.
So thanks
I don't slap because I just ignore. *is ridiculously harsh against all indies - don't take offence* (unless you write porn.)
Did someone mention slapping?
But seriously folks...But the morning thread or grumpy or whatever (wish more people would start new threads too, but that's a topic for a different discussion) are where we post about our day to day stuff. I really enjoy the posts from authors where they discuss the the process of writing. I doubt anyone would think of that as a promo unless there was a book link in the post.
Does anyone disagree?
Edit cuz I am the worst typist on the entire planet and had about a dozen typos in there.
Don't you mean a book link? And yes I do agree, but I'm not sure if everyone does..
Erotica is using a feather. Porn is using the whole chicken.I've quoted that already today but it's too good to waste!
And trust Ignite to mention chicken porn...
Will wrote: "It's a feather in her cap.Oh, wait..."
a cap in those circumstances could be inconceivable
Oh we're all wery vitty tonight!
Why do I suddenly want a digestive biscuit?
Patti (Festive Figgy Pudding) wrote: "Why do I suddenly want a digestive biscuit?"If you want a hot chocolate as well, it's a sign of premature aging.
Is it a McWittie one?
Will wrote: "Patti (Festive Figgy Pudding) wrote: "Why do I suddenly want a digestive biscuit?"If you want a hot chocolate as well, it's a sign of premature aging."
No, my wrinkles are.
Gingerlily (or Cyberlily..) wrote: "Is it a McWittie one?"Oddly enough, yes.
Patti (Festive Figgy Pudding) wrote: "But seriously folks...But the morning thread or grumpy or whatever (wish more people would start new threads too, but that's a topic for a different discussion) are where we post about our day to..."
I agree Patti. I'm fascinated with process of novel writing, as someone who can't do it. I could read an author's take on that forever.
Mostly, it's harder NOT to write the bloody thing.
I'll admit that unless I see you interact on the chatty threads, I won't seek out your author threads... (I am guilty of 'lurking' in quite a few author threads too!)Drop and runs do tend to put me off an authors work. I don't mind the odd 'my name is.... and I write .... genre about .....' so I know an author exists, but it's how an author acts on the forums that makes me want to buy their books
My process consists of lots of arguing with myself. Then I become abusive and swear at me. Then I get the hump and bugger off and leave me to it.
The main draft of the release due next month was written in a week. I couldn't get it out of my head until it was pinned down on the wordprocessor, and i needed to do some real, paying, work instead
Yeah, don't you hate it when a story won't leave you the hell alone? Lost count how many times I've driven past my motorway exit.
I don't notice it so much on here, but on KUF there are a few authors who just post the same post again and again and again. I will not buy their works even if I quite fancy the storyline.I'm for the delete the dump and runners. Yes, the authors have to start somewhere, but it's not difficult to see what the latest threads are and post what you have just watched or what the weather's like this morning or what you've just read.
I don't like it when there's an author that I like, but I don't like their genre. I want to like their books but just don't. But I will give them a try and look at the sample.
If you like the author, Joo, there's a good chance you will like their work even if you don't normally read that genre. And quite a few indie authors write in more than one genre anyway. Always worth giving them a try.
*Tries to think of a way to get rid of all the other authors*
I only come here at night, because you lot are all on the wrong side of the earth. So I don't post as often as I'd like and tend to lose track of posts.Like this one. It used to be about the sin bin. :)
I think that the sin bin is a nice idea, but I worry that in the case of naughty authors, it makes too much work for the mods. Just delete the threads and let them work out what they did wrong. I'm vaguely active across a wide range of forums these days, and it's not as though this is the only place where drop n runs are frowned upon. If people really need several messages to remind them about basic courtesy, then I'm not particularly interested in reading their freely-punctuated tales of forbidden vampire love in any case.
Katie wrote: "I only come here at night, because you lot are all on the wrong side of the earth. So I don't post as often as I'd like and tend to lose track of posts.Like this one. It used to be about the sin ..."
I'm quite shocked actually. It's not like us to go off topic, is it Katie?
I should just sin bin the lot of us. ;)
No, Patti, I've never known this group to go off topic. It's most unusual. Did I tell you the story about my cat?
Andrew wrote: "I think that the sin bin is a nice idea, but I worry that in the case of naughty authors, it makes too much work for the mods. Just delete the threads and let them work out what they did wrong. I'm..."The amount of time and effort isn't so bad Andrew. At least so far. The vast majority of people are sensible and polite about where they post promos and I do think its important to give everyone the chance to become valued groupites. I admit that when there are clusters of dump n runs I get frustrated and impatient though. I do try to keep those feelings in check as much as I
can.
Andrew wrote: "Yeah, don't you hate it when a story won't leave you the hell alone? Lost count how many times I've driven past my motorway exit."Sometimes I find I come to a point where the story is sorted but the detail takes a lot of work. I've moved out of fantasy to sci fi for the book I'm working on and now I'm trying to work out how you would get a big space station to work. Minimising air loss, making sure you have plenty of bulkheads and airlocks in case some clown damages the entrance as they come in, that sort of thing.
Make sure you watch some BBT for advice from Walowitz on how to run the toilets
Andrew wrote: "Process?Who has a process?"
I expect you have - you couldn't write stuff that complicated without A Cunning Plan, Mr B!
Kate wrote: "My goodness, everything I have ever heard about the English has just been proven true..."
What? That we're all mad...?
mwuhahahahahahaha
;0)
What? That we're all mad...?
mwuhahahahahahaha
;0)
Will wrote: "Make sure you watch some BBT for advice from Walowitz on how to run the toilets"no telly
Anyway most of my mates design submarines :-)
Tim wrote: "Buy in lots of this stuff? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tyre-Magic-se..."I suspect that that sort of product would be pretty well ubiquitous, every fitter would have a can in his tool box
Ignite wrote: "Andrew wrote: "Process?Who has a process?"
I expect you have - you couldn't write stuff that complicated without A Cunning Plan, Mr B!"
I think word processors allow more cunning plans as it's easier to think of something, go back and put in the leads, tweak character comments etc than it was with a type writer
Jim wrote: "Ignite wrote: "Andrew wrote: "Process?Who has a process?"
I expect you have - you couldn't write stuff that complicated without A Cunning Plan, Mr B!"
I think word processors allow more cunning..."
Plus the computer keyboards allow you to write so much faster.
I do have a cunning plan, Kath, but most of it still spinning around inside my head. I will catch it someday.You're right Jim, the process is easier now we have Word and Scrivener etc. But you've still go to be alive enough to go and make those changes in the required places.
Louise-Lesley (Elle) wrote: "I don't slap because I just ignore. *is ridiculously harsh against all indies - don't take offence* (unless you write porn.)"You don't slap wrists if they write porn, or only writers of porn should take offence?
:-?
I'm happy to share my writing process but can't imagine it will be of much use to anyone. It's very idiosyncratic
Andrew wrote: "I do have a cunning plan, Kath, but most of it still spinning around inside my head. I will catch it someday.You're right Jim, the process is easier now we have Word and Scrivener etc. But you've still go to be alive enough to go and make those changes in the required places...."
Absolutely, but I can remember doing articles on the type writer. The hassle of carbon paper and having to tear up pages to fit bits in. A novel must have been a real nightmare
