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Carina CJ wrote: "Carina wrote: "...when I returned home I realised that this movie has actually only covered 6 of 19 chapters."

The film covered only 6 chapters?? Awesome! Now I am more positive than ever about th..."


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C. J. Scurria Sorry that I sort of veered off the topic.

Favorite scenes... well one thing that got me rolling with laughter was when two of the dwarfs decide to pick on Bombur. It seems they throw a sausage at him and when he catches it, it seems like the added weight causes him to break through the chair he is sitting in.
Hahaha! It made me think of how in some cartoons a person is given too many items to hold and the person is afraid of the weight. And then someone puts a cherry on top of it all and that one item is the "straw that broke the camel's back." I liked Bombur a lot! Ooh and the actor that played Bilbo did a tremendous job.


Jackie Castle Finally got to see the movie before Christmas and loved it. Sorry for those critics that didn't get its greatness.

Favorite scenes was of course between Bilbo and Gollum. And once again, I'm amazed how how they can make such a treacherous creature so appealing. When he was crying I wanted to yell at Biblo to give him back his dang ring. lol. Oh well.

It's been so long since I read the actual book, yet I knew things had been changed. But have to agree with the person who said this isn't Tolkien's version, but Jackson's and I love his message about not discounted the little folks, for they also have an important role to play. Jackson always manages to slip in a nugget or two in all his movies. I've always loved that.

Enjoyed the movie. Want to see it again, and probably will sneak off soon to do just that. Can't wait for the next one.


Brandy The Hobbit in imax 3d is awesome! I liked the movie but, i wished it stayed a lil more true to the book. All the Dwarves were cast perfectly.


Shannon ງດໂາຊກກຊ wrote: "Shannon wrote: "ງດໂາຊກກຊ wrote: "And I can't wait for the Desolation of Smaug!! (Woah, that sounds evil >3< I mean the movie :P)
The picture looks brilliant ..."

The wait for Freeman was definitel..."


That's true. From the glimpse we get in the movie he looks like he's going to be gorgeous. Which means I'm going to be having high expectations for the next movie.

Oh! I don't know if you like tea but Adagio has some really good blends that are inspired by fandoms. Cara McGee makes some really good ones for The Hobbit. She has a blend for Bilbo, the Dwarves, and Smaug. Two other good ones, from a different maker, are based on Bag End and Thranduil


Donna R. I have read the book several times the most recent being two days before I saw the movie. I hadn't heard that Peter Jackson had added some of the appendices to The Hobbit so I was a little startled at first at some of the changes to Tolkien's story. At this point, I would have preferred more of the original story and less Orc inclusion. But, time will tell for me how well I like this new trilogy. LOTR trilogy is definitely in my top ten favorite movies of all time!


C. J. Scurria I can't wait to see what will come next in the second film and just how director Peter Jackson will portray it. I can only imagine with excitement how the part where the lads end up facing huge spiders in Mirkwood will be like; that part will hopefully be an epic on its own! I hope like this film he will treat the next one for the one book well.


Sparrowlicious I was at the premiere on 12th Dec and saw it in 48 FPS 3D. <3 Wow, suddenly all the computer animations look really cheap but at least the eyes can keep up with the movement (every 3D effect in less than 48 FPS is completely wasted if it involves something moving really fast).
I really liked Martin Freeman as Bilbo. Haha. Oh wow.
Though they changed quite some things (and even added some and frankly, I would've preferred to hear the eagles talk!) I liked the movie.


Phoenix2 The movie was awsome. of course they added things that were not even in the other books, but the fact is that they stayed true to the book a great deal, so that is something. watching it in 3D was spectaculor, espesially the scenes with the dragon, even though they were a few. I really liked bilbo, but he is my favorite character so no surprise there, but my friend and i liked kili too (and gandalf, really missed him!) the scene i liked most was the one with the gollum, but the one with the elves was great too. can't wait for the next movie!


Lizzie I thought it was fantastic. I was dazzled by it all. Martin Freeman's Bilbo is inspired. I trust Peter Jackson to do it right because he is such a huge fan of Tolkien.
I am very much looking forward to the day when I can watch all three in a marathon.


johanna (jo) All of your replies I agree almost totally with ;)

You have encouraged me - no matter how many critics there are out there, there're always some who appreciated all the work that went into that movie. (I'm sure the critics do too, and it's good to be critical ... but you know what I mean :P)


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I loved the film although it made me wonder again how on earth it was written originally as a children's story! My main criticism would be the similarity between Orcs and Goblins - and the stoicism the 'hero's' display at each amazing turn of events. I know if you're in an epic adventure but would you really be that unconcerned?

I am now an absolute Martin Freeman fan: he is 'Bagginses' to a 'T' and Gollum was perfect!


message 63: by Jim (last edited Dec 31, 2012 07:56PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jim Razinha I've seen it now (today) and I will admit it is a good movie. However...

Too many WTF? moments didn't change my opinion of Jackson's perversion of Tolkien's work at all. Now I know how he stretched six chapters into 2 hours and 50 minutes: introduce a totally superfluous parallel plot line for what can only be to add gratuitous CGI/fighting; significantly change several scenes that were close to those in the book; lengthen other scenes that were the closest.

So, good movie...so-so adaptation.


message 64: by Jim (last edited Dec 31, 2012 08:07PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jim Razinha Debbie wrote: "I loved the film although it made me wonder again how on earth it was written originally as a children's story! "

The book was a children's story. The movie was not.


Lesley The movie opened on the 26th here & I was straight there at the cinema. Movie was great. I had reread the Hobbit a few days before & thought Jackson did a good job of keeping to the spirit of the book. We can't expect it to be exact as well its a movie but as long as the spirit of the book is there I say well done Peter Jackson & I for one will be lining up to see the next installment.


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Jim wrote: 'The book was a children's story. The movie was not.'

Hi Jim, I know but still the movie was OF the book. The principle remains the same - the film might be a more 'adult' version of the book, but nevertheless, it was based on the book.

I thought it was really good, just highlighted for me how frightening some of the characters and situations might be for an imaginative child reading the book! I read it first when I was in my late teens, and even then, I found some of it quite dark.


Monica Ong I liked the movie though they changed some stuff...
Favorite part is one with the riddles with Gollum! :D
Wish that part lasted longer though.


Jennifer Again, bravo to the spirit of the book. Nothing will ever meet anyone's "standard" I think it was brilliant.I wish they had done this first so that in LOTR Saruman's deceit would have been much more devastating for those who never read the books.
And I love the dwarves. I wish they had added more of their interactions from the book, Bilbo and Balin's (was it Balin?) friendship? (its been a very long time since I read the book) I love the songs and was delighted to hear the song about Biilbo's cups and plates!


message 69: by Mark (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mark Great movie, me and my kids loved it, an awefull long wait for the next installment.


message 70: by [deleted user] (last edited Jan 01, 2013 12:51PM) (new)

The movie was excellent. I just saw it with a bunch of friends. I read the book less than a month before it was released so it was still fresh in my mind.

The history clips were awesome, of the dwarf/orc wars and smaug. And I liked the inclusion of heart felt dialogue to make the movie actually feel like a movie, it reminded me of the Fellowship of the Ring.

The changes were fine. A lot were mostly necessary like Radigas (spelled incorrectly? apologies if so) and the necromancer, for the sake of the movie not dragging on and being boring.

The addition of the albino orc as a villain I think was necessary because Smaug can hardly be considered a villain in the first movie as we don't see so much as a tail and shadow of the creature.

Great movie over all. 48 frames sucked which also means that the only way you can watch it in 3D is with 48 frames. Please watch it in 24 frames. Can't wait for the next movie this summer!


message 71: by Daniela (last edited Jan 01, 2013 01:28PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Daniela I really like the movie. I think it was beautiful and a great adaptation. Gollum was adorable.
But, the only thing I really disliked, was the interpretation of Radagast the Brown. He looked like fool and not like a Istari.


message 72: by Rick (new) - rated it 4 stars

Rick Soper I saw the movie, and yes there were very good parts of it, but, and this is the big but... Peter Jackson needs a little less control of this whole process. He could have done this whole book in one movie, instead of stretching it out to three. The songs, the riding sequences, the kitchen cleaning sequence, the whole showing up at Bilbo's door, all of it could have been cut down significantly, to make a quicker paced movie, that had more action in it. But once you've made a Billion plus at the box office you get the leeway to do what you will with your movies, so Jackson gets to stretch it for three so-so movies instead of making one really, really great movie. And yes I'll probably watch all three, but I'll wait to see them at home, in the comfort of my own theatre.


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The rock giants were absolutely astonishing! I fell in love with this movie from the first scene! I, personally, liked the pace of the movie and enjoyed every moment of it, I take my metaphoric hat off to Peter Jackson! The whole story was entertaining and the characters were portrayed so well by their actors. It was clever and suspenseful. I found it flawless and fabulous in every aspect. Kudos PJ!


Carina Rick wrote: "I saw the movie, and yes there were very good parts of it, but, and this is the big but... Peter Jackson needs a little less control of this whole process. He could have done this whole book in o..."

I do agree that this could have been fit into one movie (though I think that means the last chapters would be very very rushed) - but I liked the slow pacing because that is what happens in the book - it is so slow compared to LOTR.

Songs - I agree they added little IMO so could have been left out and re-added in the extended editions (if they did that with LOTR I imagine they'll do the same with The Hobbit) - but the arriving at the door was pretty much taken from the book if memory serves and it very easily shows us the irritation that builds up in Bilbo plus the fact that Hobbits are polite and hospitible - if all the drawves had shown up at the same time I doubt you would have gotten that same effect.


Cashay I enjoyed the movie for the most part. But there were a few things that really bugged me:

1) One thing that made me like the LotR movies so much was the fact that everything looked authentic. The dirty armors, the swords, the houses, all of it gave it thise gritty feeling which was great. The Hobbit on the other hand was too clean and shiny and definitely too much CGI.

2) Including Azog into the movie was completely pointless and did nothing except add action that wasn't even needed. All the things that happened except for the part right before they get to Rivendell happened in the book as well (if I'm correct).
Azog simply added more useless action and was a badguy that wasn't needed at all.


johanna (jo) Cashay wrote: "I enjoyed the movie for the most part. But there were a few things that really bugged me:

1) One thing that made me like the LotR movies so much was the fact that everything looked authentic. The ..."


Just remember that the trilogy isn't finished yet ... Azog may play a larger part in the next two.


Cashay ງດໂາຊກກຊ wrote: "Cashay wrote: "I enjoyed the movie for the most part. But there were a few things that really bugged me:

1) One thing that made me like the LotR movies so much was the fact that everything looked ..."


I really do hope so. I would be disappointed if he turned out to be just a filler to get more action in. So my fingers are certainly crossed for an overall plot-arch for him :)


johanna (jo) Cashay wrote: "ງດໂາຊກກຊ wrote: "Cashay wrote: "I enjoyed the movie for the most part. But there were a few things that really bugged me:

1) One thing that made me like the LotR movies so much was the fact that e..."


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Sparrowlicious Cashay wrote: "I enjoyed the movie for the most part. But there were a few things that really bugged me:

1) One thing that made me like the LotR movies so much was the fact that everything looked authentic. The ..."


About Azog:
A friend of mine thought they added Azog so that the company has a threat that follows them continoualy instead of (like in the book) running into dangers that have nothing to do with each other.


johanna (jo) Sparrowlicious wrote: "About Azog:
A friend of mine thought they added Azog so that the company has a threat that follows them continoualy instead of (like in the book) running into dangers that have nothing to do with each other.


My thoughts too ... in the book all the events happened more randomly, because quests are dangerous ... but in the movie they wanted to tie them together. To make them happen for a reason. To give the movie a more intense, dangerous feel.


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