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Favorite scenes... well one thing that got me rolling with laughter was when two of the dwarfs decide to pick on Bombur. It seems they throw a sausage at him and when he catches it, it seems like the added weight causes him to break through the chair he is sitting in.
Hahaha! It made me think of how in some cartoons a person is given too many items to hold and the person is afraid of the weight. And then someone puts a cherry on top of it all and that one item is the "straw that broke the camel's back." I liked Bombur a lot! Ooh and the actor that played Bilbo did a tremendous job.

Favorite scenes was of course between Bilbo and Gollum. And once again, I'm amazed how how they can make such a treacherous creature so appealing. When he was crying I wanted to yell at Biblo to give him back his dang ring. lol. Oh well.
It's been so long since I read the actual book, yet I knew things had been changed. But have to agree with the person who said this isn't Tolkien's version, but Jackson's and I love his message about not discounted the little folks, for they also have an important role to play. Jackson always manages to slip in a nugget or two in all his movies. I've always loved that.
Enjoyed the movie. Want to see it again, and probably will sneak off soon to do just that. Can't wait for the next one.


The picture looks brilliant ..."
The wait for Freeman was definitel..."
That's true. From the glimpse we get in the movie he looks like he's going to be gorgeous. Which means I'm going to be having high expectations for the next movie.
Oh! I don't know if you like tea but Adagio has some really good blends that are inspired by fandoms. Cara McGee makes some really good ones for The Hobbit. She has a blend for Bilbo, the Dwarves, and Smaug. Two other good ones, from a different maker, are based on Bag End and Thranduil



I really liked Martin Freeman as Bilbo. Haha. Oh wow.
Though they changed quite some things (and even added some and frankly, I would've preferred to hear the eagles talk!) I liked the movie.


I am very much looking forward to the day when I can watch all three in a marathon.

You have encouraged me - no matter how many critics there are out there, there're always some who appreciated all the work that went into that movie. (I'm sure the critics do too, and it's good to be critical ... but you know what I mean :P)
I loved the film although it made me wonder again how on earth it was written originally as a children's story! My main criticism would be the similarity between Orcs and Goblins - and the stoicism the 'hero's' display at each amazing turn of events. I know if you're in an epic adventure but would you really be that unconcerned?
I am now an absolute Martin Freeman fan: he is 'Bagginses' to a 'T' and Gollum was perfect!
I am now an absolute Martin Freeman fan: he is 'Bagginses' to a 'T' and Gollum was perfect!

Too many WTF? moments didn't change my opinion of Jackson's perversion of Tolkien's work at all. Now I know how he stretched six chapters into 2 hours and 50 minutes: introduce a totally superfluous parallel plot line for what can only be to add gratuitous CGI/fighting; significantly change several scenes that were close to those in the book; lengthen other scenes that were the closest.
So, good movie...so-so adaptation.

The book was a children's story. The movie was not.

Jim wrote: 'The book was a children's story. The movie was not.'
Hi Jim, I know but still the movie was OF the book. The principle remains the same - the film might be a more 'adult' version of the book, but nevertheless, it was based on the book.
I thought it was really good, just highlighted for me how frightening some of the characters and situations might be for an imaginative child reading the book! I read it first when I was in my late teens, and even then, I found some of it quite dark.
Hi Jim, I know but still the movie was OF the book. The principle remains the same - the film might be a more 'adult' version of the book, but nevertheless, it was based on the book.
I thought it was really good, just highlighted for me how frightening some of the characters and situations might be for an imaginative child reading the book! I read it first when I was in my late teens, and even then, I found some of it quite dark.

Favorite part is one with the riddles with Gollum! :D
Wish that part lasted longer though.

And I love the dwarves. I wish they had added more of their interactions from the book, Bilbo and Balin's (was it Balin?) friendship? (its been a very long time since I read the book) I love the songs and was delighted to hear the song about Biilbo's cups and plates!
The movie was excellent. I just saw it with a bunch of friends. I read the book less than a month before it was released so it was still fresh in my mind.
The history clips were awesome, of the dwarf/orc wars and smaug. And I liked the inclusion of heart felt dialogue to make the movie actually feel like a movie, it reminded me of the Fellowship of the Ring.
The changes were fine. A lot were mostly necessary like Radigas (spelled incorrectly? apologies if so) and the necromancer, for the sake of the movie not dragging on and being boring.
The addition of the albino orc as a villain I think was necessary because Smaug can hardly be considered a villain in the first movie as we don't see so much as a tail and shadow of the creature.
Great movie over all. 48 frames sucked which also means that the only way you can watch it in 3D is with 48 frames. Please watch it in 24 frames. Can't wait for the next movie this summer!
The history clips were awesome, of the dwarf/orc wars and smaug. And I liked the inclusion of heart felt dialogue to make the movie actually feel like a movie, it reminded me of the Fellowship of the Ring.
The changes were fine. A lot were mostly necessary like Radigas (spelled incorrectly? apologies if so) and the necromancer, for the sake of the movie not dragging on and being boring.
The addition of the albino orc as a villain I think was necessary because Smaug can hardly be considered a villain in the first movie as we don't see so much as a tail and shadow of the creature.
Great movie over all. 48 frames sucked which also means that the only way you can watch it in 3D is with 48 frames. Please watch it in 24 frames. Can't wait for the next movie this summer!

But, the only thing I really disliked, was the interpretation of Radagast the Brown. He looked like fool and not like a Istari.

The rock giants were absolutely astonishing! I fell in love with this movie from the first scene! I, personally, liked the pace of the movie and enjoyed every moment of it, I take my metaphoric hat off to Peter Jackson! The whole story was entertaining and the characters were portrayed so well by their actors. It was clever and suspenseful. I found it flawless and fabulous in every aspect. Kudos PJ!

I do agree that this could have been fit into one movie (though I think that means the last chapters would be very very rushed) - but I liked the slow pacing because that is what happens in the book - it is so slow compared to LOTR.
Songs - I agree they added little IMO so could have been left out and re-added in the extended editions (if they did that with LOTR I imagine they'll do the same with The Hobbit) - but the arriving at the door was pretty much taken from the book if memory serves and it very easily shows us the irritation that builds up in Bilbo plus the fact that Hobbits are polite and hospitible - if all the drawves had shown up at the same time I doubt you would have gotten that same effect.

1) One thing that made me like the LotR movies so much was the fact that everything looked authentic. The dirty armors, the swords, the houses, all of it gave it thise gritty feeling which was great. The Hobbit on the other hand was too clean and shiny and definitely too much CGI.
2) Including Azog into the movie was completely pointless and did nothing except add action that wasn't even needed. All the things that happened except for the part right before they get to Rivendell happened in the book as well (if I'm correct).
Azog simply added more useless action and was a badguy that wasn't needed at all.

1) One thing that made me like the LotR movies so much was the fact that everything looked authentic. The ..."
Just remember that the trilogy isn't finished yet ... Azog may play a larger part in the next two.

1) One thing that made me like the LotR movies so much was the fact that everything looked ..."
I really do hope so. I would be disappointed if he turned out to be just a filler to get more action in. So my fingers are certainly crossed for an overall plot-arch for him :)

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About Azog:
A friend of mine thought they added Azog so that the company has a threat that follows them continoualy instead of (like in the book) running into dangers that have nothing to do with each other.

A friend of mine thought they added Azog so that the company has a threat that follows them continoualy instead of (like in the book) running into dangers that have nothing to do with each other.
My thoughts too ... in the book all the events happened more randomly, because quests are dangerous ... but in the movie they wanted to tie them together. To make them happen for a reason. To give the movie a more intense, dangerous feel.
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