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the last abercrombie...i'm going to join, but i will be a few days late (too many books to read!)
i've heard plenty of good things about it though, so i'm looking forward to it.
I like how they call the oxen Scale and Calder - A salute to the last book. And Glama Golden is now doing a professional fighting circuit?
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I love how there is all of a sudden a POV by Ro here...we know they arent hurt, but what could possibly be the motive?
Cosca - ‘What have you made of your time with me?’Friendly - ‘I preferred prison.’
Friendly - 'Glory is hard to count'
After all the anticipation I am also running a few days late. Hope to get started on Weds or Thursday.
Ah - Shivers is looking for a nine-fingered man. I wonder who that could be?
David Sven wrote: "Ah - Shivers is looking for a nine-fingered man. I wonder who that could be?"Frodo?
*edit* Abercrombie beat me to it.
Not quite - but close
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Darren wrote: "David Sven wrote: "Ah - Shivers is looking for a nine-fingered man. I wonder who that could be?"Frodo?
*edit* Abercrombie beat me to it."
Ha Ha. I get it now. I'd forgotten that Frodo got his finger bit off.
Wow, that's an awful lot of stuff happening in 70 pages.I already loved the start of the book: the dedication
For Teddy and Clint Eastwood
but since Clint probably ain't that bothered
mostly for Teddy.
So just in case you missed that this was Western inspired :)
Next: there comes Cosca
"I lose count of the number of times my death has been prematurely declared by one optimistic enemy or another"
I do not count myself an enemy of Cosca, but i had to chuckle here, because during Best Served Cold I indeed declared Cosca dead a few times. Until i realized he's a cat with nine lives.
I wonder how often he'll die in this book.
It was obvious from the start that Lamb was going to be Named Man we met before, but i didn't realize it was Logen actually. Until the bar scene, obviously.
At least i'm glad Logen got a few nice years with this family. Let's see how it'll end.
oh, and two more quotes i noted down:Cosca: "People have often accused me of inconsistency but i feel i have always, at any given junction, done the same thing. Exactly what i pleased."
"How are you going to write this up?" Temple was asking.
Sworbreck frowned down at his notebook, pencil hovering, then carefully closed it. "I may gloss over this episode"
Sufeen snorted. "I hope you brought a great deal of gloss"
I had this imagine here of Sworbreak walking around with a backpack, notebook, pencil and than a whole lot of l'Oreal tubes. You never know, he might be worth it
Darren wrote: "David Sven wrote: "Ah - Shivers is looking for a nine-fingered man. I wonder who that could be?"Frodo?
*edit* Abercrombie beat me to it."
When glancing at this thread a few days ago (quickly, didn't want to get spoilers), i really thought that Abercrombie was going to make a literal Frodo reference in the book. Imagine my dissapointment when it was about a link :)
Hanne wrote: "It was obvious from the start that Lamb was going to be Named Man we met before, but i didn't realize it was Logen actually. Until the bar scene, obviously."I think before that he had one of his "realistic" comments as well - just so we'd get suspicious.
Every time Cosca opens his mouth he keeps spitting out quotable quotes. I'm torn between Steven Pacey as audio narrator and the kindle's ability to highlight.
This writing ability to create wonderful quotes by Abercrombie was never more apparent to me until we read Hamilton, where is 2000 pages I struggled to find a single quote.
Still haven't started this btwI am being a 'slacker' as. We say down under.
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Lee wrote: "This writing ability to create wonderful quotes by Abercrombie was never more apparent to me until we read Hamilton, where is 2000 pages I struggled to find a single quote."He's extremely quotable.
And i like quotes, so i'm always delighted to get back to Abercrombie. :D
Maggie wrote: "quit your slackin' and get reading!"
But i have to echo Maggie here. Why are you reading 3 different books, when it's Abercrombie Time?
Lee wrote: "This writing ability to create wonderful quotes by Abercrombie was never more apparent to me until we read Hamilton, where is 2000 pages I struggled to find a single quote."Abercrombie has that running internal commentary that highlights the tension between what his characters do/say and what they actually think/believe and so you end up a lot of irony and quotable quotes and humour. But he just does it so well that it just flows naturally without distracting from the story.
Erikson uses a lot of inner monologue as a commentary on life and philosophy in general. But its more intellectual and convoluted and does I feel distract at times from the story - As a result he doesn't have as many qouatable one liners as Abercrombie - But he probably has a few quotable essays - but they're not as funny as Joe.
I agree. Erikson has some great lines but they are different. "Kallor said: 'I walked this land when the T'lan Imass were but children. I have commanded armies a hundred thousand strong. I have spread the fire of my wrath across entire continents, and sat alone upon tall thrones. Do you grasp the meaning of this?'
Yes,' said Caladan Brood, 'you never learn.”
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A little more jaded? Something...at any rate, it seems he needs Monza around to be at his best...
Cosca is definitely slightly different, but this exchange between Cosca and Lorsen is.... well judge for yourself:"I must protest!" barked Lorsen
"If you must, you must, but I won't be able to hear you with all this noise."
"What noise?"
Cosca stuck his fingers in his ears, "Blah-lee-lah-lee-lah-lee-lah-lee-lah...!"
Which reminds me, Maggie, can you make the next thread? This exchange is technically already part 2...
Hanne wrote: "Wow, that's an awful lot of stuff happening in 70 pages.I already loved the start of the book: the dedication
For Teddy and Clint Eastwood
but since Clint probably ain't that bothered
mostly for ..."
I called Lamb as Logen the instant Shy mentioned that he always said one of the recurring Logen sayings (I can't seem to remember which one right now). And as soon as he said "you have to be realistic about these things" there was no further doubt in my mine.
Cosca lends the whole series a kind of...Shakespearean comic edge. I should get tired of his antics, but I never ever do.
Eric wrote: "I called Lamb as Logen the instant Shy mentioned that he always said one of the recurring Logen sayings (I can't seem to remember which one right now). And as soon as he said "you have to be realistic about these things" there was no further doubt in my mine."Now that you mention it, i hadn't picked up on that.
I guess it seems such a 'normal' sentence to me, i think i might say it every other day and i haven't magically transformed into Mr Ninefingers overnight. :)
Cosca being shakespearean. I think that is a nice way of putting it. Always a little more theatrical than needed. I like it.
Maybe I am thinking of the news today, and a similar thing happening here a few years ago, but it seems like there is a special evil to people who hurt/steal/traumatize young children.
Anyway, Abercrombie's character work is back in full swing as we meet Shy South, her stepfather Lamb, various townfolk, and then on to Leef. I already like Shy, and notice though she likes to ridicule Lamb, she actually really does respect him. Does she realize this yet?
It was nice to see Shivers make an appearance too!