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Does anyone else not like Jace?

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Morgan Because some women find jerks sexy.


Jeni He's damaged and sensitive beneath his bravado. Some women like that kind of person. We know he's not really a jerk, just a wounded soul.


Jamie How on Earth can anyone not like Jace !!!!!!!!!n


Rachel YOU ARE CRAZY JACE IS AMAZING!!!!!!!!


Jordan OMG I LOVE HIM! HE IS THE MOST AMAZING GUY EVER! HE IS NOT A JERK, JUST SARCASTIC.


Nurlely Hayley wrote: "I doubt I'm crazy for not liking a character in a book. Jace was very rude, and I don't think having a wounded soul, or a tortured past, makes up for this. He basically taunted his best friend for ..."

Jace didn't know that Alec was in love with him. What he knew is that Alec was afraid that Jace would hate him of being a gay and in love with Magnus. Jace said that it is okay, that it didn't matter to him.


BookDeliria (Dia) Yeah, he is a jackass sometimes, and the reasons behind his actions are even irrational. Protect Simon because it would make Clary happy when he completely ignores her? tsktsk. stupid excuse.

I think he is still going through his puberty thats why he has that crankiness. But I do like the way he thinks of Clary, and how they are meant for each other, even if Jace is kind weird.

Thats why I prefer Simon Lewis more than Jace. :)


Daisy97 Zajicek What is wrong with you...?


message 9: by Nurlely (last edited Dec 11, 2012 10:09PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Nurlely Hayley wrote: "Yes, later he said he was okay with it. But when it was first brought up, after Jace punched that window, he was very unkind in the way he handled his knowledge of Alec being gay. He basically threw it in Alec's face and didn't even care that he was hurting his best friend. And it was very clear that Alec was hurt....."

Jace was deeply hurt, and he hurt Alec at that. But Alec also needed that. Maybe he was terribly hurt with what Jace has said, but he was finally released from his scariest moment ever. Not that Jace was not wrong, but when people are hurt at most, they throw their anger to others.

Jace also hurt Clary that time. And he loves Clary the most. He didn't actually stress his anger out to Alec being a gay or to Alec specifically, but to everyone nearby. And he loves Clary the most.

I think you just hate Jace and took what he did towards Alec as an excuse, despite the situation.
Be my guest...


Nurlely Hayley wrote: "...I do agree that Alec needed that push from Jace, but he went about it in the wrong way. As his best friend, he should have been more sympathetic. He shouldn't have taken his anger out on everyone like that and get no consequences for it, is my problem. And I'm not using that one moment as an excuse to dislike Jace. There are plenty of other moments where he acts just as immature and cruel to the people around him...."

Jace was brought up with a faith that to love is to destroy. It makes him someone who doesn't really want to get involved with anyone else. He could not even do that to the Lightwoods, despite the love he always has for them. Clary is the person who shakes him from that belief. But it is not easy to change a person into a totally different person from what he has been the whole year. To understand about Jace, is to actually read the whole books.

As I said before, you are welcome to hate Jace. We agree to disagree... :)


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Sina Rachel wrote: "YOU ARE CRAZY JACE IS AMAZING!!!!!!!!"

agreed x 1000


Ariane Ruby If you think Jace is not funny, interesting and smart, you got the point wrong. Its either you're a jealous male (because your crush or gf is also digging the "Jace thingy" like every normal girls does) or you could be Sebastian. lol just derpin.


Stéphanie i think that jace CAN be excused for his disrespect toward others. ever since people found out that he was raised by valentine, people started mistrusting him. while all he has done is work his ass of to fight demons and such. i honestly think that i would be the same way if i were in his shoes.


Hannah the original scene (not that i can find it now) that CC wrote actually had Jace ask Alec to kiss him so that Jace could prove to his friend that he wasnt inlove with him...that act was selfless but CC had to re-write the scene and decided to go in the other direction. Yer Jace can be rude and a jerk but i still love him :)


Daisy97 Zajicek He was a jerk sometimes, but weirdly, I found that to be an endearing quality about him and like the other Herondale boy, Will.;) Maybe girls like the bad boy...? It is all just an act. Jace is actually a caring, compassionate,thoughtful guy. I liked Jace a lot!


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inga Hayley wrote: "I really didn't like this guy. He wasn't clever or interesting, like the author meant for him to be. He was a jerk who didn't treat anyone with respect. So why does everyone like him so much?"

I don't much care for Jace. There are a lot of guys like him in today's YA literature. Girls like being treated badly by jerks like him, apparently.
I wonder how these girls would react to Jace and his behavior if he wasn't good-looking/hot/gorgeous/whatever, though...

However, I admire the patience you've shown regarding some of the user who participated in this discussion. If someone called me crazy for not liking a character, even though it's just my opinion, I would get severely annoyed, but you stay perfectly calm and civil.
Thumbs up!

Cassandra Clare's fans are an especially opinionated lot, I've learned that over time.


Jordan inga wrote: "Hayley wrote: "I really didn't like this guy. He wasn't clever or interesting, like the author meant for him to be. He was a jerk who didn't treat anyone with respect. So why does everyone like him..."

We aren't too opinionated, we have opinions just as everyone else does. I could say non-fans are over opinionated, but it's just that everyone has their different thoughts.


Nurlely inga wrote: "Cassandra Clare's fans are an especially opinionated lot, I've learned that over time. "

When Hayley gave away her dislike towards Jace, and even though I disagree with her, I think she has every right in disliking Jace. But you are something else. You were attacking us, Jace's fans.

You might have crossed out the sentence I quoted back at you, but it really shows the feeling you have against us. If you didn't mean to offend us, you could have it deleted easily. But you didn't. How wonderful.


message 19: by inga (last edited Dec 18, 2012 05:27AM) (new) - added it

inga Nurlely wrote: "inga wrote: "Cassandra Clare's fans are an especially opinionated lot, I've learned that over time. "

When Hayley gave away her dislike towards Jace, and even though I disagree with her, I think s..."


You're cute, sorry my post offended you, I'm just bitchy like that. Though in my book "opinionated" isn't that bad of an insult.

But it's just a fact that some of her fans can get pretty...rabid. I shouldn't've generalized like that, you're right. But if you look at message 5 and message 11, you can't deny that some of her fans don't even try to be reasonable or to state their opinions in an "acceptable" way.

I used to be really into TMI myself some time ago, actually, but I just grew out of it, not just because I don't enjoy the series anymore, but because I hated being in a fandom that behaves like this.


Bookoholic Anom Jace is by far my FAVORITE character hands down! Absolutely loved him from the first time they mentioned him the serious!


Bookoholic Anom Sina wrote: "Rachel wrote: "YOU ARE CRAZY JACE IS AMAZING!!!!!!!!"

agreed x 1000"

Aggggggggrrrrrrrrreeeeeedddddddd!!!!!!!!


message 22: by Nurlely (last edited Dec 17, 2012 06:44PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Nurlely inga wrote: "...But it's just a fact that some of her fans can get pretty...rabid. I shouldn't've generelie like that, you're right. But if you look at message 5 and message 11, you can't deny that some of her fans don't even try to be reasonable or to state their opinions in an "acceptable" way."

Ahhh.... I see. Frankly... I think calling them 'rabid' is too much. I think they are young and hurt by the way Hayley called Jace. I think Rachel was serving Hayley back her words. I don't think she meant for Hayley to be literally crazy. And Daisy97 was just upset and confused. That is why she asked that question.

To be honest, the description Hayley was giving away is not something we can actually find in TMI series. Jace is interesting and smart. He is snarky and sarcastic. His words make the readers laugh. We can not get that from character like Alec. I think since Hayley has 'decided' to hate Jace, it was rather difficult for her to go through Jace's lines and love him for that.

I'm just bitchy like that

Well... aren't we all, sometimes? As long as we are civilized bitches (LOL), then it is okay... ;)


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inga Nurlely wrote: "inga wrote: "...But it's just a fact that some of her fans can get pretty...rabid. I shouldn't've generelie like that, you're right. But if you look at message 5 and message 11, you can't deny that..."

:)


Islam Ahmed WHAT?!?!? I love this guy!


Samiya Yup. Funny thing is I don't like Jace or Clary but I LOVE the books. Jace is the kind of guy who's aware of how really good looking he is and guys like that have this kind of pride that I just can't stand. As for Clary, idk, but EVERYONE likes her. Even her own brother, who's half demon. I just find that really weird. I guess that Alec was the only one who disliked her a little and that was only because he saw her as a competitor.


message 26: by Danielle (last edited Dec 20, 2012 07:01PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Danielle WTF!!!??? I totes loved jace. He was so swoon worthy!!!!

*sigh*


Sophie I like Jace. I think that although sometimes he's aloof and sarcastic and just oblivious to other people in general, he grew up with a hard childhood, with his "father" teaching him not to trust anyone. So he's learnt to be independent, not to consider other people, etc. So yeah, I think that CC just portrayed him that way because it helped back up his background character story. But, I would have to admit that I love his character - his wit, sarcasm and protectiveness. :)


Samantha The Escapist You're not alone, I got pretty tired of him after a while. I can forgive most of his flaws but he never showed any attempt at learning from his mistakes.


Beans Yeah I like him, but the last book I read (city of fallen angels) I find him annoying.


Julia Joanne Black If Jace is a jerk what can you tell us about Sebastian? That he is a sweet and perfect guy? I don't think so.


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inga Why do you bring up Sebastian here? Just because we don't appreciate Jace's character doesn't mean we like Sebastian, okay? That doesn't make sense.

It's pretty clear that the reader isn't meant to like him and I don't and most of the others don't either, so no point in bringing it up.


Lauren Jace is hot how could anyone not like him?


Julia Joanne Black inga wrote: "Why do you bring up Sebastian here? Just because we don't appreciate Jace's character doesn't mean we like Sebastian, okay? That doesn't make sense.

It's pretty clear that the reader isn't meant t..."


you are wrong. It does make sense. A lot actually but since you are uncapable to understand that what I was pointing out was a comparison i wont bother with further explanations. Its futile.


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inga Julia wrote: "inga wrote: "Why do you bring up Sebastian here? Just because we don't appreciate Jace's character doesn't mean we like Sebastian, okay? That doesn't make sense.

It's pretty clear that the reader ..."


Excuse me? Why does not liking Jace equal liking Sebastian? That's like saying not liking Malfoy equals liking Voldemort!

And if I don't understand where you are coming from, why not explain it to me, instead of getting all defensive about it?


Julia Joanne Black inga wrote: "Julia wrote: "inga wrote: "Why do you bring up Sebastian here? Just because we don't appreciate Jace's character doesn't mean we like Sebastian, okay? That doesn't make sense.

It's pretty clear th..."

As I said earlier its futile to give other explanations to a person like you. so just forget it.


Sarah Tohme Hayley wrote: "Nurlely wrote: "Hayley wrote: "Yes, later he said he was okay with it. But when it was first brought up, after Jace punched that window, he was very unkind in the way he handled his knowledge of Al..."

Alec is not his best friend, he is his brother. They have known each other all their life. If you have any, don't you make fun of and joke and fight with your brothers and/or sisters?


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inga Julia wrote: "inga wrote: "Julia wrote: "inga wrote: "Why do you bring up Sebastian here? Just because we don't appreciate Jace's character doesn't mean we like Sebastian, okay? That doesn't make sense.

It's pr..."


Persons like me, who do what? Demand an explanation? Sweetie, what's your problem?


Sarah Tohme Nurlely wrote: "Hayley wrote: "...I do agree that Alec needed that push from Jace, but he went about it in the wrong way. As his best friend, he should have been more sympathetic. He shouldn't have taken his anger..."

I totally agree with this Nurley. Jace thought at the time that to love is to ditroy. He probably thout if he did not say this to Alec at the time, then he would love him too much and would get "desroyed". Plus, he was being sarcastic, and that is just who he is, and that is part of why people think he is so attractive. (me).


Sarah Tohme Ariane wrote: "If you think Jace is not funny, interesting and smart, you got the point wrong. Its either you're a jealous male (because your crush or gf is also digging the "Jace thingy" like every normal girls ..."

<3 to that


Sarah Tohme Hannah wrote: "the original scene (not that i can find it now) that CC wrote actually had Jace ask Alec to kiss him so that Jace could prove to his friend that he wasnt inlove with him...that act was selfless but..."

I also agree to that. He can be a jerk, but.... see my above comments. He has reasons, and that does not mean that yall should be hating on him....Even though he is not a real person.


Julia Joanne Black inga wrote: "Julia wrote: "inga wrote: "Julia wrote: "inga wrote: "Why do you bring up Sebastian here? Just because we don't appreciate Jace's character doesn't mean we like Sebastian, okay? That doesn't make s..."
The correct question is: what is YOUR problem?


Sarah Tohme Daisy97 wrote: "He was a jerk sometimes, but weirdly, I found that to be an endearing quality about him and like the other Herondale boy, Will.;) Maybe girls like the bad boy...? It is all just an act. Jace is ..."

Yes, this is also true. He is really good at hiding his emotions, and you can see this in the rare occourences of chapters in Jaces' point of veiw that Cassandra occasionally decides to treat us with. Most of it IS just an act and not how he really feels about things. Act is not really the word, but more like, he jokes about things that are actually really real for him, and that is his way of makeing things not ackward or emotional or too sirious, even though he knows they are. And sorry for all the typos that are probably in all of my comments.


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inga Julia wrote: "inga wrote: "Julia wrote: "inga wrote: "Julia wrote: "inga wrote: "Why do you bring up Sebastian here? Just because we don't appreciate Jace's character doesn't mean we like Sebastian, okay? That d..."

Because I don't like Jace?


Julia Joanne Black inga wrote: "Julia wrote: "inga wrote: "Julia wrote: "inga wrote: "Julia wrote: "inga wrote: "Why do you bring up Sebastian here? Just because we don't appreciate Jace's character doesn't mean we like Sebastian..."

That doesnt seem to be your REAL problem.


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inga Julia wrote: "inga wrote: "Julia wrote: "inga wrote: "Julia wrote: "inga wrote: "Julia wrote: "inga wrote: "Why do you bring up Sebastian here? Just because we don't appreciate Jace's character doesn't mean we l..."

As far as I know, my only problem is that I'm hungry and that is about to get solved, as I plan to eat pizza now.


Sarah Tohme inga wrote: "Hayley wrote: "I really didn't like this guy. He wasn't clever or interesting, like the author meant for him to be. He was a jerk who didn't treat anyone with respect. So why does everyone like him..."

Even if he was not as good looking, I would still like him because he is scarcastic and funny, and would not be boring to be around, and would make you laugh a lot. The good looking part is just a bonus though. People would still love him even if he was not hot. Even if his humor is sometimes at another persons expence, some people are too sensitive and need to take a joke. I know that sounds really insensetive of ME, and I know sometimes he does go too far, and they have a right to be mad or hurt, but most of the time he doesn't mean it, and if again, you go back to the capters in Jaces' point of veiw you will know that he really is a good person. Do you know what I mean? I laugh a lot in this book and it is mostly because of Jace.


message 47: by Julia Joanne Black (last edited Dec 21, 2012 07:56AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Julia Joanne Black inga wrote: "Julia wrote: "inga wrote: "Julia wrote: "inga wrote: "Julia wrote: "inga wrote: "Julia wrote: "inga wrote: "Why do you bring up Sebastian here? Just because we don't appreciate Jace's character doe..."

And my problem is that your replies make no sense to me.


Sarah Tohme Nurlely wrote: "inga wrote: "Cassandra Clare's fans are an especially opinionated lot, I've learned that over time. "

When Hayley gave away her dislike towards Jace, and even though I disagree with her, I think s..."


yes


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inga Julia wrote: "inga wrote: "Julia wrote: "inga wrote: "Julia wrote: "inga wrote: "Julia wrote: "inga wrote: "Julia wrote: "inga wrote: "Why do you bring up Sebastian here? Just because we don't appreciate Jace's ..."

Fair enough, and the feeling is mutual, sweetie.


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inga Sarah wrote: "inga wrote: "Hayley wrote: "I really didn't like this guy. He wasn't clever or interesting, like the author meant for him to be. He was a jerk who didn't treat anyone with respect. So why does ever..."

Yep, you're right, some of the things he says are pretty funny. Admittedly, when I read the book(s) for the first time, I did laugh out loud several times.


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