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Keith as you well know, the worlds media are duplicitous in the extreme. The recent debacle with the BBC, News of the World et al,is proof that the leopard has never changed its spots, the list is endless! The only way the truth will ever be told is from people like you who put their eye witness accounts in writing and with integrity.
Mike wrote: "Keith as you well know, the worlds media are duplicitous in the extreme. The recent debacle with the BBC, News of the World et al,is proof that the leopard has never changed its spots, the list is..."Thank you Mike - an important announcement regarding the BREAKING OF THE DEAFENING silence will be made in the next day or so. Watch for our newsletter.
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I was a serving member in the RLI, Special forces and BSAP. Nell's book is to me a fictional work, he has taken the tragic facts and woven an egotistical story through them. Caveat emptor.
Anthony wrote: "I was a serving member in the RLI, Special forces and BSAP. Nell's book is to me a fictional work, he has taken the tragic facts and woven an egotistical story through them. Caveat emptor."The reference section of my book has records and references by four respected authorities to authenticate our achievements. Our ops are well known to the RLI and Special Branch hierarchy. I smell a rat.
No mister Nell. You failed to substantiate your claims made in the book, then and subsequently. The book is nothing but a shocking example of self-aggrandising fantasy fiction. Shame on you.
Mark Adams, all the contacts in my book were written and produced by a good number of other people who were there. None of their accounts were prepared by me. You on the other hand, were not there and you have not backed up a single allegation you make with any fact. Your campaign of disinformation will come home to roost. So pray tell, if the contacts you claim never happened are fiction, then are you saying they have lied? Or are you lying? Not difficult to work that out, is it?
Keith wrote: "Anthony wrote: "I was a serving member in the RLI, Special forces and BSAP. Nell's book is to me a fictional work, he has taken the tragic facts and woven an egotistical story through them. Caveat ..."Mr Coom - you have claimed that you were posted to the Special Forces Auxiliaries at Karoi in January 1979. Please explain why your service records show that you served with the RLI from 1977 to 1980. Who is lying - you or your service records and for what purpose? Are you connected to someone involved in the cover-ups???
Not too sure where you got the service records and perhaps you'd like to quote source and post them. Rhodesian service was Rli 1965 to 1969. BSAP 1974 to 1977. RLI 1977 to 1965. In the period you quoted, 1979 posted to Special Forces then to Diplomatic Mission, Pretoria.
Please explain so we can all understand. You say: RLI 1965 to 1969. BSAP 1974 to 1977 and then you reverse time in the same sentence by going from RLI 1977 to 1965? Then in the last sentence, you say you were posted to Special Forces in 1979 and then to Diplomatic Mission in Pretoria.So if you were posted to Special Forces, what was the exact date and your force number there? You could not have served in the RLI, BSAP and Special Forces without being officially transferred from one Unit
to another. If you were in Special Forces you would fall under their command and within their pay structures. Like wise in any of the Units you quote, so Mr Coom, please enlighten us. We are very intrigued.
Be intrigued. Regret the typo...second tour in the RLI from 1977 to 1980.I did two tours in the RLI. In the Rhodesian Army you retained your number regardless of what unit you were posted to. Mine was for the first army tour 3733 and then in the second tour the prefix 72 was added so it was 723733.
I left the BSAP in 1977 and the next day rejoined the RLI.
Thank you. However, we are confused. You said above that you were posted to Special Forces in 1979 but now you say you were in the RLI from 77 to 80. You dont answer the question concerning the exact date you claim you were "posted" to Special Forces and neither do you give your force number. Clearly they were two completely separate Units. Perhaps you can also enlighten us as to the date when you were posted to Pretoria?
January 1979 to Special Forces under John PadburyAugust 1979 to Pretoria.
When in January 79 - exact date please??
Mr Nel, exact dates are lost, months are quotable. Nevertheless it was after you had left.I have been advised by the plaintiff's attorneys in the matter of you and others, being sued for defamation that I should not offer any further evidence as I am called as a witness against you.
But perhaps as I have offered so much gratuitous information you would perhaps enlighten me and those following this of you military career with some specific dates.
Mr Coom, You never asked me about your reservations you may have had before making some serious comments and statements on public forums about me and my book. Your so called EVIDENCE is either correct or incorrect which either way, should be the same to present to your audience here as well as in court.I would think it is only reasonable for me to question you in the same public forums as those in which you have posted your statements unless of course, you wish to retract your allegations here and now and save them for court.
I understand the exact dates are lost which prompts the question- how could you know when you actually first arrived in Karoi to serve under Padbury? For example, since you are uncertain of exact dates because they are lost, how could you accurately state whether you arrived at Karoi in Dec 78 ; Jan 79 or even February 79 - or in any of these months at all?
Mr Coom, I take it from your silence that you are unable to answer whether you may have arrived at Karoi in Dec 78 ; Jan 79 or even February 79 - or in any of these months at all? What is obvious is that you use the hit and run strategy - make allegations on Goodreads that you cannot prove and then run when questioned about them in the same forum. That Mr Coom, says a lot about you and your aversions. Did you read the newsletter about this from my website www.viscountdown.com? It has very enlightening rock-solid EVIDENCE that puts the correct perspective about my book and the cover-ups for the public to see.
I have been advised by the plaintiff's attorneys in the matter of you and others, being sued for defamation that I should not offer any further evidence as I am called as a witness against you.
Mr Coom, you havent offered ANY evidence - only damaging allegations on Goodreads without a shred of credible substance. You claimed that my book is a work of fiction. All the contacts in my book were written and produced by a good number of other people who were directly involved in the action. There are citations for military awards to prove it. None of their accounts were prepared by me. You on the other hand, were not there and you have not backed up a single allegation you made with any fact. Your campaign of disinformation will come home to roost. So pray tell, if the contacts you claim are fiction, then are you saying they have lied? Or are you lying? Not difficult to work that out, is it?
Clearly there is a hidden agenda behind your campaign. Rest assured the court case will be well advertised for all to witness the outcome. BTW, say hi to the plaintiff for me! :-)
Still at it I see Trooper Nell. It is quite simple. Coom's presence working with the SFAs in Karoi / Urungwe from January 1979 can be vouched for by a number of people who were there. The real question is, where were you from December 1978 onwards as you certainly were not with the SFAs in the Urungwe as you have claimed. You were not there in 1979 and as such was not involved with the Urungwe SFAs and had nothing whatsoever to do with the second viscount and the gang that shot it down. Your book has been exposed as pure fantasy fiction.
Oh hello old boy, are you speaking for Mr Coom now? I thought he was told by "the plaintiff's attorney" not to comment because he is to be a witness against me? Dont try your bully tactics here with me. See John Padbury's reference about my service with the SFA's from my newsletter at www.viscountdown.com and comment about THAT and save your garbage for court.
Running out a red herring trooper Nell?The facts remain that you were nowhere near either viscount incident... let alone being personally responsible for the tracking down and the elimination of the gang that shot down both viscounts.
Your fantasy fiction has been exposed.
Glad you introduced your book into the legal proceedings... you are going to regret that.
Hello Adams, you really are so pathetic. You can fool some of the people most of the time but not most of the people all the time. Your agenda of sowing DISINFORMATION to assassinate my reputation and to discredit my book is all about high level COVER-UPS exposed in the book. Anyone interested can see from my blog page irrefutable evidence of COVER-UPS and DECEPTION used by some to save their bacon. You Mr Adams, are merely their DISINFORMATION AGENT which you have illustrated time and again. The red herring is all yours, but to make sure everyone can see it, please read my comments on a previous post (No.20) above. For evidence of the aforesaid DECEPTION and COVER-UPS, please visit my blog page www.keithnell.co.za
Bye bye Mr Adams - you are EXPOSED, not my book.
Well trooper Nell I guess you will be able to explain in court for whom I am a "DISINFORMATION AGENT" and who these people are? Under oath of course which should be fun. Can't wait.
Interesting you have no names to link to this "cover-up" conspiracy of your imagination. Your fantasies have led you into a world of legal misery. Of course, if you had any names you would post them without fear of a legal whirlwind.
Adams, It is an inescapable fact that news of the Viscount disasters led to the mass exodus of the white Rhodesian population and that this was accelerated by withholding crucial information from the public that the massacre and missile gangs were eliminated. In the case of the massacre gang, within 5 days of the Hunyani crash. The fact that you deny this irrefutable evidence provided by numerous sources, clearly exposes your agenda to defeat the truth and places you firmly in the camp of those who have similar objectives.I need not name any of them because they have implicated themselves entirely of their own doing by way of the manner in which they have conducted themselves, including by deception, disinformation, false statements and dirty tricks.
As in the past, you cannot and have not ever provided answers to irrefutable evidence but when confronted by them you have hopped from one allegation to another instead - just as you do now.
Now get this straight Adams, stop fishing for information and making hollow threats. Believe you me, this court case will be well advertised and there will be a legal whirlwind and consequences for you and your detractors for which I am adequately prepared and have no fear. This is where your propaganda campaign will be put to the test and for which there is a price to pay. Save your garbage for that.
This statement ENDS any further response on Goodreads from me. SEE YOU IN COURT ADAMS.
Run trooper Nell run. You started the discussion again on June 2 then saw your chain was being jerked so now you run away.
Like the gooks in the old days you follow the same dictum: "He who fights then runs away gets to survive another day."
If you had no fear then you would name the names of those you claim were involved in your delusional claim of a cover-up.
Name them, or be damned as a fantasist.
Adams, Unto the truth we are all beholden. This includes you, Cast aside your aster shams aside and face the consequences of your propaganda. You and your cronies have had enough rope and have made uncontractible statements that cannot be denied. Now be a good boy and rely on the court findings instead of clinging to the flotsam and jet-some of your dispicable campaign, by which you will be known for ever more.
Trooper Nell, you are the one person who should not attempt to lecture anyone on the truth.Time for you to stop your grandstanding and state your facts... if you dare.
Who are the people involved in your conspiracy theory of a "cover-up"?
If you have the facts why not post the names?
I know why you can't... you have no names as there was no "cover-up".
The supposed "cover-up" is a figment of your imagination to explain away the questions relating to your fantasy fiction narrative.
Its over trooper Nell... off you go now, there's a good lad.
Done some editing then trooper Nell... LOLRemember one thing... you can run but you can't hide.
Your day in court is coming. You introduced your book into the proceedings which now will be judged and result in a world of pain for you.
Like for Oscar your day of reckoning approaches. Try to take it like a man trooper Nell.
Trooper Nell is it not safe to assume that if you have, as you claim, "irrefutable evidence of COVER-UPS and DECEPTION" you would have no hesitation in naming all the people you claim have been involved in these so-called "cover-ups and deception"?Then again, as your claims of "cover-ups and deception" are nothing more than products of a fertile self-serving imagination there are no names.
So trooper Nell, you can run but you can't hide.
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Why is it that these two very significant contacts were never publicised, when the news would have given Rhodesians the confidence to fight on and compelled the news media across the world to respond?