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Would this be ok for a thirteen year old?
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I HATE this book with a passion. No one and I mean no one should read this book. The idea of suicide should never be promoted and this book does an excellent job of presenting the idea and making it seem ok. Which it isn't. I see absolutely no point in this book. Don't bother reading it and don't encourage others to do so including a 13 year old. There are other books out there that you could read and benefit from, but not this book. Trust me I read and it infuriated me. It's stupid. When you're done reading it, you look at it and say really? Well, then what is your point? And what are you trying to get at? Suicide and giving up are never the answers and this book encourages the idea of both.
Ingrid wrote: "This book should not be for anybody, especially a 13 year old. I must say, at first I liked this book, but now I think it's terrible. Everybody has been hurt by someone before. This book makes it s..."
I completely agree with you.
I completely agree with you.
Scott wrote: "And there goes the point of the book WHOOOOOOSH!"
Which is what?
Which is what?

Many people went through more than what she did AND she could have avoided most of the problems that she went through. For example, when you know that a place is going to bring you harm, why would you go to it in the first place? When you know that specific people aren't good to be around, then why would you stick with them or come in contact with them? when you really don't need to, but you
choose
to. How does the author encourage others to think about their actions toward others, when Hanna commits suicide?

That was expressed quite clearly via the tape segments.
As for your other questions, people don't always do (or even realize) what's best for them. That is what life is like.
Scott wrote: "Ireny wrote: "How does the author encourage others to think about their actions toward others, when Hanna commits suicide?"
That was expressed quite clearly via the tape segments.
As for your ..."
Nothing was expressed via tap segments. The whole book is inaccurate and doesn't make sense. Why would a girl kill herself because of the reasons that she mentioned?
Scott wrote: "As for your other questions, people don't always do (or even realize) what's best for them. That is what life is like."
Really? That is what life is like. And that totally makes sense, because that's how readers are suppose to react, just like Hanna. A clear message to all teenagers who read this book, isn't it?
And based on what you said, then she is the one to blame, when she could have reacted differently. And she could have reacted differently.This book would give no messages besides the one that's clear, which is SUICIDE . Especially to a 13 year old that wants to read this book. Considering how young he/she is and how they're still developing. Imagine that they're going through the same thing or even more than what Hanna was going through. How would this book help them? Do you think that they wouldn't be encouraged to do the same thing Hanna did?
That was expressed quite clearly via the tape segments.
As for your ..."
Nothing was expressed via tap segments. The whole book is inaccurate and doesn't make sense. Why would a girl kill herself because of the reasons that she mentioned?
Scott wrote: "As for your other questions, people don't always do (or even realize) what's best for them. That is what life is like."
Really? That is what life is like. And that totally makes sense, because that's how readers are suppose to react, just like Hanna. A clear message to all teenagers who read this book, isn't it?
And based on what you said, then she is the one to blame, when she could have reacted differently. And she could have reacted differently.This book would give no messages besides the one that's clear, which is SUICIDE . Especially to a 13 year old that wants to read this book. Considering how young he/she is and how they're still developing. Imagine that they're going through the same thing or even more than what Hanna was going through. How would this book help them? Do you think that they wouldn't be encouraged to do the same thing Hanna did?


The tape segments show how thoughtless actions hurt people. Really, I don't understand how this could be missed.
Why does there have to be blame? Yes, Hannah could have acted differently, and so could everyone else. But the book is realistic in not portraying everything as black and white.
Do you really think a book encouraging suicide would be on teen reading lists everywhere? Sorry, but you're just wrong. Drop the author a line if you're inclined; he has been known to respond (he wrote back to a friend of mine.) This book and others like it help people by showing them that they aren't alone. As I think I've said before on this discussion, I wish it had been around when I was young.
Scott wrote: "The book is inaccurate? What does that mean?
The tape segments show how thoughtless actions hurt people. Really, I don't understand how this could be missed.
Why does there have to be blame? Y..."
It's inaccurate because no would kill themselves over the things she did, when most of the time it was she who decided to act in certain ways when she could have acted differently. And she played a part in those "thoughtless actions". And the "blame" is on her because she put herself in most of those situations that she kept blaming others for.
Unfortunately, it's on teen reading lists. And I'm not wrong.I don't see it helping anyone at all. How does someone who is going through terrible stuff get help from this book (meaning they're thinking about suicide)?
Which is my point exactly.
The tape segments show how thoughtless actions hurt people. Really, I don't understand how this could be missed.
Why does there have to be blame? Y..."
It's inaccurate because no would kill themselves over the things she did, when most of the time it was she who decided to act in certain ways when she could have acted differently. And she played a part in those "thoughtless actions". And the "blame" is on her because she put herself in most of those situations that she kept blaming others for.
Unfortunately, it's on teen reading lists. And I'm not wrong.I don't see it helping anyone at all. How does someone who is going through terrible stuff get help from this book (meaning they're thinking about suicide)?
Which is my point exactly.

People kill themselves for all sorts of reasons that don't make sense to others.
Scott wrote: "Ireny wrote: "It's inaccurate because no would kill themselves over the things she did"
People kill themselves for all sorts of reasons that don't make sense to others."
Well, how about my last question?
People kill themselves for all sorts of reasons that don't make sense to others."
Well, how about my last question?


I have already said, it helps people by showing them they aren't alone (the most important thing you can do for someone with those feelings.) It also presents both viewpoints, so while being relatable also shows that there's more outside one's tunnel vision.
Scott wrote: "Ireny wrote: "Well, how about my last question?"
I have already said, it helps people by showing them they aren't alone (the most important thing you can do for someone with those feelings.) It ..."
Oh, thanks for answering, but the truth is it "DOESN'T" it promotes them more.
I have already said, it helps people by showing them they aren't alone (the most important thing you can do for someone with those feelings.) It ..."
Oh, thanks for answering, but the truth is it "DOESN'T" it promotes them more.

Well said, Caroline. You make two or three good points and your writing speaks well for thirteen year-olds everywhere. I agree with your English teacher (I'm one myself) that many young people like to read books about people with terrible lives because the books make your own lives seem much more bearable. I also agree with you that teens (even younger ones) are much tougher and more resilient than many adults (who have completely forgotten what it's like to be thirteen) ever give them credit for. Keep reading what makes you think.



I totally agree. I thought the same things. I also, found the contents sad and mature.



Cathy wrote: "NO. I wouldn't recommend this book to ANYONE, much less young teenagers. The reasons Hannah has for killing herself are horrible, and she does nothing but blame other people the entire story withou..."
Thank you! My point exactly. Plus no one should ever take the easy way out and kill themselves. We're all here for a reason and we all have a message in this world. If everyone faced their problems the way Hanna did, then what is our world going to be like?
It's really important to think about stuff and analyze them after reading them. Finally, someone does that. Thank you for sharing your opinion Cathy. I'm glad someone saw beyond what everybody else sees.
And I'm saying it again "STAY AWAY FROM THIS BOOK" Deal with your problems, more importantly FACE THEM,and don't give up on yourself. And remember "When you feel like giving up, remember why you held on for so long in the first place." Nothing and I mean nothing in this world is worth taking your life away. No matter what. You're strong and you can do this. Believe me, keep this in mind and you'll face anything. Just have faith in yourself and hope.
Thank you! My point exactly. Plus no one should ever take the easy way out and kill themselves. We're all here for a reason and we all have a message in this world. If everyone faced their problems the way Hanna did, then what is our world going to be like?
It's really important to think about stuff and analyze them after reading them. Finally, someone does that. Thank you for sharing your opinion Cathy. I'm glad someone saw beyond what everybody else sees.
And I'm saying it again "STAY AWAY FROM THIS BOOK" Deal with your problems, more importantly FACE THEM,and don't give up on yourself. And remember "When you feel like giving up, remember why you held on for so long in the first place." Nothing and I mean nothing in this world is worth taking your life away. No matter what. You're strong and you can do this. Believe me, keep this in mind and you'll face anything. Just have faith in yourself and hope.





I really don't think this is appropriate for a little kid. I have a little sister who's nine and in no way would I allow her to even read the synopsis. There's mentions of sexual touching, rape, alocohl, suicide (obviously) and all sorts of mature themes. Might want to rethink your reading choices, little one.

Your definition of inappropriate is far different from mine.
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