Breaking Dawn. Alice's Vision.....to Aro.

[Mochaspresso]

Chasta wrote: "So, my girlfriends and I all went to see the new Twilight movie like we always do. It has become more of a reason just to get together over the years rather than a love of the movies. We are fans o..."

She didn't see Bella pulled out of the water because Jake saw Bella and made a split second decision to save her and he probably didn't have a plan that went beyond that moment in time.

Alice's visions only work when people make decisions and those visions change when people change their minds. That is why she can't see the wolves as clearly. Their behaviors are more instinctive/impulsive and reactionary and are usually split second. That is why she had trouble seeing Victoria in Eclipse. Victoria understood how Alice's visions work and used that to her advantage.

If you keep that in mind, Alice's movie vision makes sense because in that instance, the wolves have all decided that they would fight and were all committed to that decision. That is probably why she was able to see them clearly in that instance.

[Haidi]

Smeesh wrote: "s'called Hollywood, hun.
They needed a fight scene for the movie, or else it wouldn't be interesting. I thought it was actually pretty clever, to make it Alice's vision. Wait, um... are you saying..."

I agree, I thought the addition of the fight scene vision was very clever. However, as I've said before, you can't make everyone happy, the producers were damned if they did and damned if they didn't. ie, if they didn't put in a fight scene, everyone would be screaming about the fact that the movie was sooooo boring and now, because they used their heads and added a clever vision fight scene, everyone is screaming about it "because it wasn't in the book"

I just wish people would accept it as a clever twist and be grateful it's given them something to talk about

[Afifah]

@Mocha Spresso : I think Alice can't see werewolves and renesmee's future simply because she never be a werewolf nor half human/vampire like them, and it's written in the books anyway, and her-visions-works-only-if-the-decission-has-been-made theory is for humans and vampires, whom Alice can see their visions because she WAS a human, and IS a vampire.

[marina]

Chasta wrote: "Libbie wrote: "Chasta wrote: "So, my girlfriends and I all went to see the new Twilight movie like we always do. It has become more of a reason just to get together over the years rather than a lov..."
that is so true i wonder if the director did a mistake?

[marina]

Vixen wrote: "LMAO! Yeah I know I hated that. My heart dropped, then stopped, and I felt crushed as people were dying. Oh gosh and when Seth died T_T I started crying and I was like "WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPL..."

i found it funny when jane started running away from alice LMFAO

[Katerina]

Marina:
That was the best part of the movie, hands down.

[Katerina]

Mocha Spresso:
No, Alice explained it. She can't see things she has never experienced. She can see humans; she was a human. She can see vampires; she was a vampire. She can't see Nessie; she's not a half-breed. She can't see werewolves; no duh, she's not a wolf.

[Katerina]

Diane:
Ooooh, okay, I see your point.

[Katerina]

Doncha hate it when you press 'post' without meaning to?
Diane (cont.)
Still, I thought it was awesome. Heartbreaking, traumatizing, and slightly disturbing, but AWESOME.

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Peace wrote: "so in somways alice can see diff things, in her vision but not the hybrids or werewolves"

Yeah her visions are kind of weird that way.

[Katerina]

"Yeah her visions are kind of weird that way. "

WHUT.
oh good lord
THEY ARE FREAKING VISIONS. NO DUH, THEY'RE WEIRD.
lol sorry, but that statement sounded SO... um... idk. *facepalm* or *eyeroll*

[Mochaspresso]

Smeesh wrote: "Mocha Spresso:
No, Alice explained it. She can't see things she has never experienced. She can see humans; she was a human. She can see vampires; she was a vampire. She can't see Nessie; she's not ..."

True. I forgot about that line in the book.

[Katerina]

no, they don't depend on her much, actually. she left them a note in a copy of The Merchant of Venice (steph meyer chose that book because it has a happy ending, as a hint that the book would turn out well), but then she and Jasper left the Cullens. (and then that cute-but-sad thing of Renesmee saying, 'momma? did aunt alice and uncle jasper leave because we're all going to die?').

[Katerina]

Peace wrote: "somwhere in the book, alice did leave something for bella 2 look for if somthing that did happen, to them."
i don't really understand your comment.
Alice left Bella two notes, and one was an address to a guy who makes fake IDs. It's the guy that the Cullens always use when they move, to they can prove their supposed ages.