Twilight (The Twilight Saga, #1) Twilight discussion


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Is Stephenie a bad writer?

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Rae the Reviewer I don't think the book was That bad but the movie sucked!


Jacquelyn I like her style! I think she's a great writer! <3


message 1753: by Jenny (new) - rated it 2 stars

Jenny Darden The book was juicy, but I think that was more the product of the plot than of Meyers's writing prowess. I would've liked to see what a writer with a little more sizzle and pop could've done with the same basic premise.


★Codie Abibliophobic ★ I think she's a great writer. That's why when I first read Twilight I was in love with the books...until my second go around. No offense to the Twilight fans out there, New Moon was my book though.


Jonnathan Narrative wise she's not a bad writer at all, but in terms of character development, plot structure, creativity, originality and unpredictability she's mediocre at best.

I hate her anticlimatics endings, her clumsy conception of vampires and relationships. But I do like her pace in her stories, some of her metaphors and her first person perspective.

I think she is genuinely talented for writing, she can do better than Twilight.


message 1756: by kirstin ✿ (last edited Jul 25, 2013 06:23AM) (new) - rated it 1 star

kirstin ✿ I've gotten over my hate for Twilight after realizing that there are so many books out there that are actually worse. *coughs* Marked/TheBoyWhoSneaksInMyBedroomWindow/Etc *coughs*

But this Tumblr account pretty much explains SM's errors and holes in her writing. Check it out! It's actually hilarious ^^


message 1757: by Maddie (new) - rated it 2 stars

Maddie I can't say I like how she writes however many may disagree.


message 1758: by Jonnathan (last edited Jul 25, 2013 04:23PM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Jonnathan K i r s t i n ☯ wrote: But this Tumblr account pretty much explains SM's errors and holes in her writing. Check it out! It's actually hilarious ^^ "

I read it, but I didn't like it, I seems like the person who wrote the blog was trying to mock the books rather than doing a serious analysis.


kirstin ✿ Uh, yeah... kinda. But she has a point in most of them.


message 1760: by deedee (new) - rated it 5 stars

deedee megadoodoo Yeah to agree with what a lot of people are already saying: I think people's hatred for Twilight is leaking into their own unbiased opinions of Stephanie Meyer's writing style.

Honestly, I enjoyed reading Stephanie Meyer's writing. I thought that as a new author, who was completely unknown until twilight, that her style she brought to the table was well thought out but also on a comprehensive level, she wrote well.

All books and authors are victims of grammar mistakes like misplaced/missing commas, missing words, excessive sentences, overused words, and etc, and yes all these things are distracting and they pull a reader away from the story-- but I think Stephanie Meyer is much more of a point out victim for small grammar mistakes, that honestly don't even matter, just because of how big Twilight and her name became.


Cassandra I don't think she's the best writer but she's a good storyteller. It seems like there is something she's lacking in her writing or something is.. almost underdeveloped? It also bugs me how it seems like every second sentence is talking about how perfect or beautiful or stunning Edward is.
Nonetheless, I don't mind her stories themselves. Even if her writing is kind of cringy I still enjoy reading them.


message 1762: by ANnA (new) - rated it 1 star

ANnA She's a commercial writer. She writes what sells, not actual good quality literature. Sorry Stephanie, I didn't take to your books. The style is far too plain and ..blah. But then again, depends on the reader. Personally I prefer prose and creative description over easy


message 1763: by Ft (new)

Ft of course


message 1764: by [deleted user] (last edited Jul 29, 2013 06:32AM) (new)

I think it's not about her writing skills but about her characters. They don't really seem to have any personality put within them, sure I don't like Twilight since it isn't my cup of tea and I just don't like the way she portrayed Vampires by making them glitter under the sun and stuff like that, Twilight would be a good book if the characters didn't have a flat personality. I do like Stephenie, I do. But Twilight just isn't working out for me, I think she could have done a much better job if she just made the characters feel really alive.


message 1765: by Felicia (new) - rated it 1 star

Felicia Yes.


message 1766: by Nabila (new) - rated it 3 stars

Nabila I have to completely disagree with everyone who believes she is a bad writer because I find it unfair to judge her based off of that one book. I will admit that Twilight did suck, but I loved Eclipse and the Host was fantastic!


message 1767: by Marilyn (new) - rated it 1 star

Marilyn Her writing suffered throughout the Twilight series. Everyone here was basing their judgement from all four books (just an assumption).


Veronica I think in the Twight series , she got better with every book and the Host was good . It was like she just relazed , she did better charter development and the books got less corny. I am not a fan of Twight , The Host was much better !


message 1769: by Jeff (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jeff here's why i think stephenie is a good writer: she created such a setting of romance in her twilight series! i say this because i am not a romance reader. never have been. in all honesty, i usually find myself running in the opposite direction (not trying to insult romance readers; just a preference). and yet i found myself engulfed in the romance she wove. it takes some pretty strong crafting to suck in a resister like me. yeah, others may want to take pot shots at her writing style; i'm just proud to say i'm a fan, and why.


message 1770: by Shawn (new) - rated it 5 stars

Shawn I couldn't put any of her books down until I finished them. The Host is my favorite! If she's a bad writer, I'd love to be a bad writer like Stephenie Meyer! Give me just half her success as a writer, and I'd be thrilled. She may not appeal to every reader, but she writes in a way that appeals to many, many readers and has sold millions of books worldwide.


Phoebe Fitz-Gerald I think stephine meyer is an extraordinarily good writer; the host was phenomonal, and I think that most of the people who hate twilight hate it because of the way its writen- think about the target audience of twilight


message 1772: by Alena (new) - rated it 3 stars

Alena I feel that Stephanie Meyer is not the worst writer in the world. She definitely needs to develop her writing technique further and develop character emotion. Make a reader understand what bella is feeling rather than make the reader guess or get ticked off by her character. A lot of people believe The Host was very well-written(i have not read it yet), so she may have improved but her writing technique is definitely flawed throughout all 4 books of the Twilight Saga.its ironic, and i hate to say it but the movies were much better than the books because we can actually understand some emotion and plot.Stephanie Meyers


message 1773: by Jordan (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jordan Shawn wrote: "I couldn't put any of her books down until I finished them. The Host is my favorite! If she's a bad writer, I'd love to be a bad writer like Stephenie Meyer! Give me just half her success as a w..."

Exactly. What matters is how she made her readers feel. Obviously writing strategies matter, but whatever she does, works for her. She has had so much success and I have so much respect for her.


Serena ☼ I think Stephenie's a good writer, but Twilight it's a book for teenagers. I loved it when I was 14 (I'm 17), but now I prefer "Shadowhunters", "Hunger Games", "Harry Potter" 'cause the writers and the story are better.

"She's always talking about how beautiful Edward is. Get over it!" (Evanna Lynch)


message 1775: by J.A. (last edited Sep 13, 2013 12:12PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

J.A. Kenney Twilight was a YA book, and so some of the stylistic "blah" was shrugged off as necessary for that audience. I did the same. It was The Host that made me question her as an author...

That book was just horrid, especially as an adult book. But then all authors have a niche that they excel at, Stephanie seems to do best with YA...

Doesn't make her a bad writer, just says that she should either stick with what she is good at, or learn more about what is expected in other genres...

Adult romance is a completely different world, with different expectations...and since I was reading them when I was 14...I know more about what the expectations are than most. It has changed over those 21 years...but the basic intense, marriage type relationship remains.

More depth, more sex, more intimacy, more internal conflict....if she can't do that. Then YA is where she should stay.


Vampire  Jones She's a new writer and still filled with cliches and a small vocabulary. Sophomoric. Twilight hit the zeitgeist, that is all. That book wasn't about her writing, it was about her love for Edward Cullen expressed through Bella.


message 1777: by Alissa (new) - rated it 3 stars

Alissa I didn't care much for her writing style, but in retrospect, the books were written from the perspective of a 17 year old girl.

I don't know about other girls, but when I was 17, my love life was over dramatic. If I talked about something that interested me, I would ramble on and on, and my grammar and vocabulary were pretty mediocre.

As far as telling a story from the perspective of a 17 year old American high school student, I think Samantha Meyer did a fantastic job!


Vampire  Jones It's pointless to call her a bad writer anyway. Because any writer who has books that successful must be good in more ways than not.


message 1779: by Siobhan (new) - rated it 2 stars

Siobhan A. Michael wrote: "It's pointless to call her a bad writer anyway. Because any writer who has books that successful must be good in more ways than not."

You could say that, but volume of units sold has no bearing on talent. Gangnam Style is hardly the most emotionally-provoking song, but it was the best seller last year. I wouldn't call psy the most artistic or musical guy ever, but I can't deny he made his name in his field.


Vampire  Jones Well, my uncle was literally a starving artist. No virtue there I can assure you. Notice I say "was." I know this much, if as many people read my stuff as have read Stephanie's...I'd say that's good enough. But then I would never write twilight. Not from spite but just becuase it doesn't particularly resonate with me. My inner 17 year old girl is too dormant.


message 1781: by Kathy (new) - rated it 2 stars

Kathy G I did not feel Meyer's characters were well developed nor believable. This can partly be due to the genre of young adult fiction and partly be due to her skill. This is escapist supernatural romance that probably could have been edited to about 2/3 the length. Frankly, I didn't really understand the hype, perhaps it was the merchandising. There are many novels that have similar elements which are leagues better written. This is very much teenybopper pop fiction, equivalent to Disney channel tv or boy band Tiger Beat, bubblegum fiction.


Vampire  Jones Kathy wrote: "I did not feel Meyer's characters were well developed nor believable. This can partly be due to the genre of young adult fiction and partly be due to her skill. This is escapist supernatural roma..."


You nailed it. If my facts are correct it was 1 book and her agent had the idea to break up into 4 books for capitalism's sake. I suppose it was kind of like chocolate cake, a quick high that leaves you hungry.


message 1783: by Carley (new) - rated it 5 stars

Carley Johnson I don't think it matters whether an author is technically a good writer. In terms of grammatical and correct English, very few current authors could be considered good writers. Surely, the point is whether they write/tell a good story, which can be enjoyed by the masses, and she certainly does!
It is the responsibility of the editor to ensure that the turn of phrase and sentence structure is correct, but with the current trend of online releases more and more books seem to have typing errors and mis-placed words


La Coccinelle As far as how she writes, in a technical sense, her writing is not the worst I've ever seen. It's not perfect, but it wasn't so awful that it made me put down the books (and that kind of thing has made me put down a book on more than one occasion). At times, though, her prose can get a bit purple. Beyond that, it's just... simple. It's not very memorable, and it doesn't really do anything more than move the story along.

As far as what she writes... Well, that's probably where you're going to find more ammunition to back up accusations of "bad writing".


message 1785: by [deleted user] (new)

i think other writers like James Patterson and Anne Rice are jealous of Stephanie's spotlighted success. even though, they've obviously had theirs too before. neither of them are stephen king.


message 1786: by [deleted user] (new)

M.R. wrote: "I think most of the problems with Twilight could actually be blamed on bad editing. Most books undergo intensive rewriting AFTER the author has completed the final draft. The editing is supposed to..."
i like your opinion. i read a few chapters of the book a few years ago, then put it down. I was hardly into the middle when i did


Vampire  Jones A poorly written book is a Sisyphean challenge to make into a goodly [sic] written book. You know, pushing a boulder up hill and then starting over again the next morning. Not saying it can't be done, but the work load is huge and NYC is not too interested in doing that. Read the foreword in the first Dark Tower series by Stephen King wherein he apologizes for the terrible writing and claims to have "tried to fix it" and at last was unable to.

Stephanie's genius is not in the prose, so the question, is Stephanie a Bad Writer is the wrong question anyway, since good and bad are just opinions.

Stephanie is a genius in that she had a vision in a dream, had the courage and stamina to write it into a novel and...and send it out to New York. She had caught something by the tail and didn't know that it was an Avanc until 5 years later when Twilight mania hit.

She won the equivalent of the literary lottery. And dare I say, won't ever be able to do it again?

Rowling did the same. Sure she's a better writer, but she hit the nerve. The resonance cord that vibrates through the culture like wildfire. Could she do that again? Probably not. Can you plan for that kind of thing? No way.

But you can capitalize on it when you find out you're standing in the middle of it. That agent saw it and ran with it. Good, career making work.

And, one last thing, Stephanie is a bad writer ;)


message 1788: by [deleted user] (new)

Her story and characters suck, but no, she's not a bad writer.


message 1789: by Bill (new) - rated it 1 star

Bill Golden A. Michael wrote: "It's pointless to call her a bad writer anyway. Because any writer who has books that successful must be good in more ways than not."

Oh God, not this argument again.

McDonald's sells billions of burgers a month. They aren't very tasty, but they fill a hole. If we can agree with that...

...then by the "Stephenie Meyers is popular == Stephenie Meyers is a good author" logic, the typical McD's burger-flipper is a Michelin-starred gourmet chef.

Any questions?


Vampire  Jones Yes! Stephanie Meyers books are as good as the Big Mac. And just as healthy.


message 1791: by Stevi (new) - rated it 4 stars

Stevi Lin I think Stephanie Meyer is one of world good author.
No one ever think of marrying a vampire and have a half mortal children. Also the imprint thing happen with Jacob Black with Reneesme.

Another proves, Meyer has made excellent character. Every girl become fans of Cullen's family and would dying to have boyfriend as cool as Edward.
In my general opinion the whole twilight world is nearly just as real as it is alive. I love Meyer's for that.

I am not a fan of Edward Cullen and Bella Swan but I love Volturi :). *cheers*


Vampire  Jones I liked the first movie. That's as far as my fandom went. The first book was kinda boring, though I still liked Bella.


message 1793: by Bill (new) - rated it 1 star

Bill Golden Olivia wrote: " what if she didn't write all 4 of the twi books, then the movie wouldn't be out type of thing..."

The idea that the movies are good is subjective/opinion. Also, at this point, Hollywood will make a movie out of anything...

Like Battleship: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1440129/?...

Or Angry Birds: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1985949/?...


message 1794: by [deleted user] (new)

Angry Birds? *giggles*


message 1795: by Violet (new) - rated it 4 stars

Violet While I did n't particularly like twilight, the series as a whole is not bad. I really liked some parts. Plot wise I mean. But I've never had a problem with her writing style. I've always liked that about it actually. Took the series up a notch for me.


message 1796: by Emily (new) - rated it 3 stars

Emily I actually liked Stephanie Meyer's writing until Breaking Dawn. For me, it was really drawn out with way too much foreshadowing. I also thought the ending was completely unrealistic; we get to the brink of this huge war against the main antagonist of the series, but instead everyone walks away all happy and in total agreement. But the first three books were fine.


message 1797: by Dorothy (new) - rated it 4 stars

Dorothy Emily wrote: "I actually liked Stephanie Meyer's writing until Breaking Dawn. For me, it was really drawn out with way too much foreshadowing. I also thought the ending was completely unrealistic; we get to the ..."

That ending could have worked if there wasn't such a buildup to this huge battle. There should have been more of a foreshadowing that walking away was an option, instead of the ultimate destruction type mood of the entire second half of the book. I've said this before, but it bears repeating: Stephenie Meyer's concepts weren't bad, but her execution was terrible.


message 1798: by Kathy (new) - rated it 2 stars

Kathy G I think there will always be fans of popular simple romance/horror? novels. Her ideas are not original. It is like teenybopper pop music. The movie scripts were not written by Meyer. This is basically a Disney type supernatural story. A. Michael is correct--she won a publishing lottery.


message 1799: by S. (last edited Sep 21, 2013 08:51PM) (new) - rated it 1 star

S. Rutherford I'll get plagued for this, but Meyer had come a long way from Twilight to make The Host a good story. IT'S CALLED PRACTICE, something she didn't do for the Twilight saga. She wrote it poorly, swear to God like a first draft, and left out tons of plot holes. If you want to know more, check out my review of her book: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

Seriously, it's quite enlightening, and points to a few things most people have overlooked.


While it is indeed true that no writer is perfect, Twilight is the worst story I've ever read. Yes, I am seriously saying this. Now before anyone here decides to flame me for this, go read what I said in my review. I'll know if you don't by what you have to say to me, because, as I said before, it points things out no one else has thought of.

The ONLY reason she even succeeded is because she's one of the FIRST to write porn for teenagers. That's all. Sex sells, kiddies. Too bad your momma forgot to tell you that.


message 1800: by Peggy (new) - rated it 1 star

Peggy Coffey yes


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