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I already knew it wasn't going to be anything like HP, so I expected as much.
I wanted to love it, but I just felt there was something missing that I couldn't put my finger on.
It didn't help that most of the characters were vile people. Especially Fats & Simon.
And I just found it so strange that literally EVERYONE was so 'attached' to this Barry Fairbrother.
It might have been a small town/village, but I just couldn't get my head round the fact that EVERYONE mourned his death. I really couldn't relate to it.
I've since heard that Rowling will be sticking to children's books.
And I really hope she does.







I think the characters were believable, though for the most part thoroughly unlikeable. I do agree with Stepheny that the plot meandered a bit, and the book could have been better if it focused more on Krystal's storyline (there are a few characters and subplots that have no bearing on the main story whatsoever). But overall I enjoyed it. I think JKR is still finding her feet as an adult writer, and I look forward to seeing what she writes next.


Personally, I hadn't read any J K Rowling before. I was aware of some of her social views from an interview she'd given. (As an aside she does more than just pay lip service to these). The reviews I'd seen, whilst sometimes critical of style, had been positive on her storytelling abilities & I fancied a good story.
I enjoyed the book (although 'enjoy' feels wrong for something with such a sad ending). I found it a little slow sometimes in the first half but then it really gathered pace. I didn't anticipate such a grim ending &, as it became more apparent, really hoped something would save Robbie & that Krystal would one day stand at the school gates with Ann-Marie. A sucker for a fairy tale ending! The book has stayed with me since I finished it & I do find myself thinking of the people of Pagford. It occurs to me that it is easier to empathise with people in the abstract than in real life. I really feel for Krystal & wish she had had a better life; but I think if I'd met her in reality I would have disapproved - at least on initial impressions.
In some of the other threads people have speculated on Fats's future & expressed hope he turns out okay. To me, it's a sign of successful storytelling that the characters live on.

True the novel does have sex and bad language but it has nowhere near the levels of graphic and sustained violence of the Harry Potter books and even the school yard bullying in The Casual Vacancy is tame compared to what happens to the children at the hands of their Hogwarts classmates. The majority of bad language (and most of the sex) comes from the teenage protagonists and is nothing that any 15 or 16 year old won't hear (and probably say) in school on a daily basis.
Just like the Potter series it is a book about absent and ineffectual parents and about growing up and learning to cope with (or without) a family. Where it goes further than the Potter novels is in showing that the the essential relationships that we have with our parents never change, even as grown ups. Miles the adult is just as much a victim of ineffectual parenting as Andrew the child, Terri the adult is just as messed up (actually more so) by her absent parents as is Gaia the child.
This is a novel about growing up whatever age you are, about relationships and about learning to cope with your family, warts and all and as such it should be required reading for everyone who's ever had a family, wishes they didn't have a family or wishes that they did.

I think this is kind of the point - most of us, I think, would easily dismiss Krystal as a trashy, over-sexed teenager, without pausing to think about the tragic circumstances that might've caused her to be the way she is.

I definitely agree

Your comment kind of reminded me about a discussion in my literature class last year about the novel Hard Times by Charles Dickens. It has similarly been criticised on its characters because people felt that they were too extreme to be believable. But I think that's the point in these types of books, and in my opinion JKR is very similar to Dickens in her writing style. Both of them use caricatures to get their point across. I don't think the characters are supposed to be 100% believable, and they're supposed to feel over the top. We may not be able to recognise all elements of their behavior, but we can recognise fragments of what they think and do in ourselves or people we know. The fact that the characters are extreme is part of the book's social criticism.


I think it's too bad that people keep comparing it to Harry Potter, and acting like Jo isn't allowed to write something that is so different.
I also think it's too bad that people keep judging it after only reading a few chapters. I think this is the type of book where you have to read it all to be able to judge it.
Finally, I think people need to get over themselves about the language. It's seriously not that bad, it's only shocking because it comes from Jo, and again, I really think that we have to let go of the thought of what she's written before! I'm surprised that people are so up-tight.
I hope that Jo will write more adult novels, because this one was great! :)

No problem.. :)
But I think that the point is that the story isn't really about Krystal, and it's not supposed to be. I see Krystal as a symbol of the Fields, and everyone else's reaction to Krystal is a reflection of their reaction to the Fields. If all the politics and the other characters weren't there, that allegory wouldn't have worked, in my opinion. Then it would just have been a story about a teenage girl with a tragic life, which could of course also be interesting, but that would have been less unique and would have worked less as a social criticism of the middle class.


I just finished reading it and am somewhat dissapointed.
The first half of the book is very long and unnecessarily descriptive. I think she is trying to make up for her simplistic vocabulary in the HP series, in CV she uses way too many "Sunday words" (some which I think actually distract more than embellish).
Another thing that bothered me was the unclear genre and story plot, since it keeps changing direction every once in a while and ends without really solving anything about it's "main theme". I understand the whole Krystal being a symbol for the Fields but what did that accomplish...?
To me, JKR used up all of her creative juice in HP. (And I'm not speaking fantasy-wise, you need a lot of creativity to write for adults too!)

And of course, if you're not into social realism, a book like that can be hard to get through.
As an English student I guess I've just become accostumed to thinking about a book in different terms than I normally would. I often find that I think a lot about why different characters are there and what they bring to the story, rather than just whether I like the book or not. :)
I actually noticed this a little while back when talking to some fellow Harry Potter fans about characters we liked, and I kept pointing out that you could despise a character, but still like them for the way they contribute to the story, and the others just kept looking at me like I was crazy.. :D

I just finished reading it and am somewhat dissapointed.
The first half of the book is very long..."
Well, if someone only think that books like Harry Potter are good, then no, they won't think this book is good. But I don't think it's fair to simply say it's not good, just because it didn't live up to your expectations.
I, for one, think that the book is very good. It's well-written, funny, sad, scary and offers an interesting view on small English middle-class society as well as the human psyche.
I can understand why some people would be put off by the long descriptive part, but it's necessary. There are so many characters that if JKR hadn't taken the time to let us get to know them it would have been impossible to understand the rest of the storyline.
I understand the whole Krystal being a symbol for the Fields but what did that accomplish...?
Just gonna put a spoiler alert on this, just in case.. (view spoiler) So what does that accomplish? Nothing at all, really, most people have the same view as they did at the beginning of the book. And that's the point, I think: The way people can convince themselves to be detatched from something that they do not want to face, no matter how loud it's screaming at them. I think that's really what the whole book is trying to tell us. Just look at characters like Ruth Price, Shirley Mollison or Kay Bawden.

However, you say: "It's well-written, funny, sad, ..." You really think it's well written? To me this is JK Rowling's Achilles's heel; she DOESN'T write very good. If you think about it, she has no background in writing (she studied French) and HP was just a very good idea. She did get better at writing as the books went along, you can witness this by comparing her last book with the epilogue, which she wrote way before all the books and did not edit when ending the series. She's not a bad writer, just not a very good one.

I agree & it's the people who did have some understanding (her friend's mother, Barry Fairbrother) who showed her more kindness. Sukhvinder & some of the others on the rowing team also saw another side to Krystal. It's sometimes difficult to get beyond the exterior though & people's behaviour can trigger strong ingrained responses. I would have found it dificult to muster much immediate sympathy if she'd just knocked my teeth out :-)


Wow. This totally hit the mark. I completely agree.

What I'd like to see are more literary criticisms of the book--stylistically it's not all that great, and there are some false notes with the characters that might bother others more than they did me (I found them very believable for the most part and so was happy to overlook a few issues). There have to be people out there who are the right readers for this kind of book, but have problems with this one. They just don't seem to have read it yet, or else they're lost among the rants about adult content and hating all the characters.


I think what's important about Barry is how his abscence changes so many lives for the worse - and that his impact was probably never fully appreciated by others until his death. In a lot of little ways, he truly was a "pillar of the community".
Actually, there's a lot in this book about the way small events and influences can add up to make a big difference to the lives of an entire community, and in that sense it reminds me of The God of Small Things. (I'm sure there are a few literary types who will jump down my throat for even making the comparison, but to me, the similarity is definitely there.)
For me, some of the most heartbreaking moments in the book were the flashbacks to when Barry was coaching the rowing team. For Krystal Wheedon, this was probably the only time in her life somebody truly believed she could achieve something positive and told her so. And by doing this, Krystal actually became a positive influence herself, in her very Krystal-Wheedon way - think of the courage she gave her teammates. Who knows what might have become of Krystal if Barry hadn't died? He could have made an enormous difference in her life - but he died too soon, before Krystal had a chance to stand up on her own, and before anybody else had been able to see her potential.

I think that the danger for the long term success of this novel is not that fans of the Potter series will pick it up and be disappointed (because I don't think that they will be) but that readers who haven't read or don't like Potter will not pick it up at all. I would also argue that The Casual Vacancy is a perfect gateway novel into the world of adult literature and as such I would hope that as many Potter fans as possible do read it; it is after all a novel about the relationships between parents and their children, and creates believable teenage protagonists in a way that the Potter books never quite managed.
The other point that the reviews tend to miss when they criticise the number of characters in the novel is that it isn't a book about people at all but rather about the town, Pagford, as the sub-title states, it is a "big novel about a small town" and as such it compares to something like Dylan Thomas' Under Milk Wood which has more characters in a far shorter text. The town needs to be populous in order to be credible and would seem empty without the various families that are featured. At the same time plenty of authors use multiple points of narration, often far less successfully than Rawlings does here, and to criticise the novel for this is both lazy journalism and the mark of a lazy reader.

I think this ia spot-on, and this is probably also the deeper meaning of the title. Barry leaves not just a casual vacancy on the parish council, but also in people's lives and in the community as a whole that people had not expected.

I felt at times the pace was slightly off but the characterisation and the general feel of the village was really quite good and as a first attempt at not writing for children, who may possibly be more leanient on certain things it was really, really good


That is exactly what I thought when reading this book, especially after we were introduced to seemingly hundreds of characters. I actually thought to myself while reading "wow, JKR could compete with Dickens on how many major character she has in the story."



I find all the criticism about the language and sex to be unfounded. The language in the book fits the scenario and at no point did I feel that it had been added to make the book more shocking or adult. Same with the sex. What I think is ridiculous is that people criticize the book for having all these dark, depressing parts and characters when in reality, there were plenty of awful, unlikable people in Harry Potter and everyone just kind of glossed over them (case in point, in the later books it's revealed that both Harry's father and Sirius Black were basically jerks but no one ever makes an issue about that). There's always been kind of a nasty edge to Rowling's writing, she just hasn't had the opportunity to fully explore it until now.


Was I looking for another HP type? A:Not at all
Then why Don`t I like it? A: I`ll extract my review :)
"That is because story building skill of JKR has failed one time. Some places, I found it too much descriptive over unnecessary incidents. Unlike fantasy, you are not to describe every detail of what happens in real life cause you know about it. So in some parts of the book, I found it boring to carry-on. And I had a desperation to get over with the book. So 2 stars is enough for the vacancy!"
That`s it! her base is good, but writing is bad!



More broadly though, I agree with you, Lesley. Perhaps part of the reason this book is having trouble is that it's awkwardly situated between audiences: too literary for readers of children's fantasy books (whenever somebody calls it boring, I have to wonder whether they've read any other books about modern life; I found this one far more interesting than most), not literary enough for the establishment.


One of the problems with the book is the writing style or language if you prefer. I know she can write and I am sure she has a very advanced vocabulary but at some points the book gave me the impression that she had her thesaurus open next to her and decided to pick the most sophisticated words she could find. In my opinion using big words is not always good and they have to be used wisely, they won't make your book better.
The other problem with the book is that there is nothing new in it. You can read similar stories in the newspaper every day, it is not like she came up with something new or revealed something we didn't know before.
Overall I did enjoy the book, after the first 50 pages it starts getting more and more engaging, I liked the darkness and the fact that there is no happy ending but it is far from being great and I hope her next book will be better.

I’m not a fan of Harry Potter, but I’m now a fan of J.K. Rowling’s THE CASUAL VACANCY. I read the book compulsively on my Kindle, and my interest never lagged. The town of Pagford, England, is peopled by Rowling with a wide-ranging assortment of characters, whose thoughts propel the story. I’m reminded of John Updike and early Stephen King (before verbosity took over), who are unsurpassed at getting inside their characters’ heads. Some who didn’t like this novel have complained that the characters were unlikable, that they had no redeeming qualities. I would ask these critics about the innermost thoughts of their own friends and neighbors, and even themselves. If we knew what everyone was really thinking, would we find them likable? Would we want others to know our own innermost thoughts? A writer does not operate under these constraints and is under no obligation make her characters user friendly. Rowling’s characters wish ill of others, swear, have sex, smoke and drink, abuse those close to them, and even take drugs. In other words, they are real people.
From the moment that Barry Fairbrother dies in the opening pages, leaving his position on the Pagford town council vacant, skirmishes break out between the other council members as well as their adolescent children. The bone of contention is the Fields, an undesirable part of the community characterized by sub-standard housing and people—at least in the eyes of some of Pagford’s respectable citizens. These skirmishes escalate to a full-blown war by the novel’s denouement, leaving tragedy in their wake. Happy or sad, it is a war worth reading about. Rowling’s language is at times exquisite, and the motivations of her characters are explored masterfully.
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