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The story is so eloquently told, beautiful attention to detail, language, and mannerisms of all her characters, Anita Diamant truly captures a girl's journey through childhood to womanhood, and eventually death.
A FANTASTIC READ!

Don't miss this book!

Couldn't put it down - always the sign of a great book!
Marilyn


I really was able to picture the period of time and the characters.

The author takes you right into the life of women in ancient/biblical times. I felt like I was there. And Dinah's story was so fascinating.
Even though it is based on a small part of the bible, you do not need to be familiar with the biblical aspect to enjoy this story.
I wish there were more books about the women of this time. I want to read all of their stories!


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I recommended this book to a co-worker who is an avid reader. She gave up on the story because the beginning was so dry, listing the names in the bible as a means of setting up the families in the story. I agree that the beginning might deter some from getting over that hump and discovering a magnificent story.



And, indeed the comments here reinforce my annoyance. This is fiction. There is no reason to believe it is true and the bibilical version is false. It is certainly not perfectly accurate from a historical (archeological) perspective either.

I don't think the author was trying to slander any historical figure. She took one woman mentioned in the Bible and created a life for her on paper. I don't think anyone who reads it takes it at face value and thinks the Bible is false. Good grief.
The author of The Pearl Earring took a real-life painter and a popular painting and created a fictionalized account of how the painting came into existence. It's just another way to write a novel that I find very entertaining. I happen to find these types of conjecture novels fascinating. And, no, I don't think that's how the events went down in real life.

So sorry. I was under the impression this was a literary *discussion* group. I did not realize this was a fan club where thinking or variant opinions are so unwelcome. I won't post again!

Discuss all you want...and so will I.

This discussion is reminding me of an earlier Goodreads discussion when none of the participants could accept that Martin Luther or Brigham Young or Joseph Smith could have made an error in judgement. It happens with humans.
That being said, it's fine if you agree, disagree, find fault with or are disgusted by anything written in a book or in a discussion. That's the beauty of this forum. I keep finding points of view that I, in my 'out west', middle class upbringing, have never encountered. I love to be enlightened by others' opinions. I can choose to reject or accept them.
I'm fairly certain that I've shared opinions about other books that people have thought were absolute crap. And that's fine!!! That's the point!!! Thanks for letting be blow off some steam...

I also welcome different points of view. I just was wondering where Elise got the idea that anyone here thought the novel was true and the Bible was false. I read back through the comments and found nothing to support that statement. Everyone here enjoyed a small fictionalized piece of history. That's all.

The reason I like historical fiction, particularly historical fiction that fills in the holes around a wider story, is that it allows you to ask yourself, "what if?" What if this was the life Dinah lived? I wasn't there, I certainly don't know. That's why we write and tell stories.
Finally, why is it not allowed to write a story where the previously labeled "good guys" are now not as good? If you read the Old Testament, there are a lot of wars being waged and a lot of people being captured, killed, etc, not everyone thinks this is a good thing and this is just another side of the story.


Here are some titles with similar subjects:
Unveiled, Unspoken by Francine Rivers
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Thanks Teresa great info!





The book would have been just as good (even better) had she stuck to the facts of the Bible.

here, here.
the women's studies dept loves this book but it completely misses the point in terms of what was/is important about Judaism and its revolutionary change, paradigm shift, in human relations and perception, understanding of the purpose of human existence.


Just to avoid this kind of reaction, the author emphasizes the fact that it is a NOVEL--she made sure to put that word on the cover.
It isn't meant to be biblical commentary.

This book is an all-time favorite of mine and I make a point to reread it every year.

The story is so eloquently told, beautiful attention to detail, language, and mannerisms of all her characters, Anita Diaman..."
Me neither Lindsay, I am not in the least bit religiousy! But this book was so well written, I couldn't put it down.

The story is so eloquently told, beautiful attention to detail, language, and mannerisms of all her charac..."
Same here. Funny thing is i read this during my lunch times at work. I had a woman come up to me and say she was thrilled to see a man reading a book from the womans POV !
It is a great book no matter the sex of the POV.

The author takes you right into the life of women in ancient/biblical times. I felt like I was there. And Dinah's story was so fascinating.
Even though it is based on a small part of..."
Believe it or not, Orson Scott Card has written at least 3 books about biblical women -- The Women of Genesis Series. I've read the first two - Sarah and Rebecca - and thought they were quite good.

I was disappointed with it being concidered historical fiction. Most historical fiction I have read has been researched and presented as accurately as possible for the time. If there are non-fiction characters the facts concerning them are presented accurately. This is not true in The Red Tent. For example, the children born to Jacob are not even presented as being born to the correct wife or servant. I realize in historical fiction, there is speculation, but when facts are known there is no need for it.

It has been a while since I read this book, but I think on the cover or maybe the introduction, it said something about this kind of novel being in the Jewish tradition of re-imagining the bible stories. Does anyone else remember that? It would be interesting to know more about that tradition and what the general parameters are.



I loved the book too and have read it 3 times
:-)

Try The Dovekeepers by Alice Hoffman, probably the best book I've ever read.



I loved the Dovekeepers too.

There is an inside joke in our office (95% women)that we refer to our "time" as being in the Red Tent. Everyone knows to back off if we seem a little perturbed/frustrated/sad/emotional/bloated once a month. I just say "I'm camping" and they seem to get the point!!

I cried bitterly through the last third of the book, and found it very hard to read at times (aren't all women's stories, especially historical ones) but I thought it was just so beautifully done. I grew up reading the Bible, although I hadn't read the stories referenced in many years. For me, it was like my experience reading 'Wicked' (which I also really enjoyed)- of having a well-known story turned on its head. With the perspective changed, the entire story is, naturally, very different. I realize, of course, that The Red Tent is not a fact-based alternate history, but it is based on the (very serious) tradition of Midrash- imagining possible scenarios to fill in the gaps of the Bible's narrative. So, coming out of this well-accepted tradition, it is not so far-fetched as we might think.
Of course, it's only a possibility, and any 'truth' can only be reached by blending Multiple (flawed) humans' perspectives. But, that's just it- the Bible generally only gives us one perspective, which comes from the male-centric society that was, in part, formed out of Christianity. I felt that The Red Tent also began to tell the story of the dying of ancient religions, the death of the Goddess, and of mother-centered cultures; of the way that severe patriarchy wiped out womens' histories- and their importance.
At times, I started to feel that Diamant had gone too far in altering Jacob and Joseph's characters for the worse, but then again, is it not because this time the story is being told from the women's perspective, and the truth can only be found by blending perspectives? And was not Jacob's (male) god, El, an angry, even cruel God? This is corroborated by reading the Bible - in fact, the Bible's own perspective shifts drastically from Old to New Testament, with the introduction of Christ. It goes fom "eye for an eye" to "turn the other cheek." But enough of these ramblings...
On another note, I agree with other readers that this story makes me proud to be a woman (even pulled at my ovaries a bit, despite the terrifying descriptions of giving birth lol). I have read that the old way of giving birth (and for that matter, even relieving ourselves of waste) by squatting is much better, and easier, because it allows gravity to better assist us in these tasks. And the idea of being surrounded by women with whom your life is so interdependent is a very comforting one. If only we still cycled with the moon, and were allowed a week away from the world, to spend with our nearest and dearest women. That is a bond that few of us know these days, when we become so wrapped up in our very separated, compartmentalized lives.
I found the end interesting, and was wondering how others felt about Dinah's pronouncement that she never went away. That she saw her loved ones for a brief moment, but did not join them - that she essentially wandered the earth for eternity. Is this heaven? Is she in limbo? Once women's stories are once again told, once women are viewed as important enough to be remembered, will she then be able to rest? Can she rest now that the book has been written, read, and loved by so many? (I ask this philosophically, and not literally, of course.) Or is Diamant implying that this is the way for each of us - when we are gone, are we never really gone? It's a melancholy thought to imagine that we remain sentient, but not joined with our loved ones. Or, is Dinah unique? Is she a wandering spirit because she endured so much pain in life? Or did Diamant just mean that Dinah's spirit remained in story-waiting-to-be-told, not so much the actual spirit of Dinah the person, but the collective spirit of women's untold stories? Somehow, the ending just left me questioning, rather than feeling any sense of resolution.
Well, that's quite enough to start with. These are my musings and opinions on a book that really struck a chord with me. Feel free to disagree, but please realize that nothing is meant to offend or provoke; I detest rude conflict, and don't wish to cause or take part in it. I do look forward to discussing the book with others!
Kelli- what a cool idea!! Diane- I had never heard of Bookcrossing.com; maybe you could share more about it with those of us who have never used it?
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