Eat, Pray, Love
discussion
puke hate rage
Hedda wrote: "I guess, well, yes, I think it is that Yeah! the fastest way to recover from a breakup is to get a book deal and travel around the world...
Marcia wrote: "How any reader perceives any book is purely subjective. Obviously, plenty of readers did like the book! Do you loathe them as much as you loathe Gilbert? Why?
You've made your position (opinion) ..."
Because stated that just because we hated the book we must be jealous!! Maybe you should not tell us how we feel. You loved the book, GOOD. My anger is that the process of seeling this particular book was decietful. That's my point and I think a lot of people agree.
Charlene thanks for the information about how publishers manipulate books to sell. I personally never look at what is on the best seller list. It means nothing to me. I read what I think I will like. I can now understand that since she did get a huge advance the publishers are going to make sure they get a return and then some. Now lets calm down people. It is only a book...LOL
Being condescending is also not helpful and is demeaning! People can dislike a book no matter what there reasons. It just seems that if you like the book you can't allow others to dislike it! We have to be jealous or some such babble. Unfortunately I have never found any other book I've disliked more. I usually find some redeeming quality! :(
Ebony wrote: "So, how do you know none of it is real? And if you know anything about publishing and authors you'll know that getting advances on books is the way ALL published authors survive. You sell your firs..."All good points.
Robin wrote: "I didn't get all the rave reviews either. Read it for a mili-second, and her whining attitude made me think I can read better novels out there than this."Its not a novel its a biography, just an account of a person. Her experiences. if you take it as more than that it really is your fault its a let down. She got out there and did something how many of us can say we have done something like that? Could you write a book about a more exciting adventure in your life that was non fiction, then do it!!
Anakalia84 wrote: "Ebony wrote: "So, how do you know none of it is real? And if you know anything about publishing and authors you'll know that getting advances on books is the way ALL published authors survive. You ..."Yes, Ebony makes some very good points. I really think that all this rage on here is way over the top. No one here can prove that what Gilbert wrote was all contrived. I personally do not believe it was contrived and do not lose sleep over it. There are more important things to think about.
I couldn't push myself to read past "Italy", oddly enough I liked the film.
I didn't rate this book either. Her self-absorbed whining and the navel-gazing got on my nerves. I only finished it because I hate to be defeated by a book and I kept thinking it would get better. It was entertaining in parts, especially the Indonesian section. As a personal memoir, as a catharsis it would have been ok. You would have reread it later and cringed. I didn't feel it was worthy of publishing, though
I liked it (though I almost didn't read it because of a friend who hated it so much, she convinced me it was garbage). But, I picked it up at a garage sale, and ended up enjoying it. Despite the fact that some of you say she's a terrible writer, the book was well-written though it told a story not everyone can relate to (a story that even angers some readers enough to bad-mouth the writing, the author and the book).For me, it was a story of one person's quest to figure herself out. And, she does. Whether I like her, or agree with her choices is really beside the point. I admired her for trying, for ignoring what everyone else said, and for being strong enough to find her own peace (whether anyone else "likes" it - or her - or not).
I agree, but hey maybe shes just being honest and she really is greedy and self-indulgent. Too many bios make the author seem angelic.
Zander wrote: "I liked it (though I almost didn't read it because of a friend who hated it so much, she convinced me it was garbage). But, I picked it up at a garage sale, and ended up enjoying it. Despite the fa..."I agree that she is an excellent writer. That's what kept me reading.
Hedda wrote: "This book should be used to equalize unstable tables."Or used in lieu of kindling or firelighters
I'm not doubting her talent as a writer, though I have not read anything else that she has written, it's more the question of whether everything that we experience as we travel through life figuring things out is actually good material for a book. A blog might have been a better in my opinion. This is just catharsis for her and a bit self indulgent, but clearly some publisher felt it would be a money spinner.I wonder if any publisher wants to pay me for a peek into my psyche?
I didn't mean to give it 3 stars either. Finger must have slipped.
All of you who liked this book feel free to friend me.
I gave up on this book after about 3 chapters, boring and not interesting to me.
This is the type of book you either love it or hate it and boy did i love it! I found myself in every word she said, I could not help but feel motivated even though it was a slightly depressing book. I cried multiple times and pretty much could not see through my watery eyes on the last page. I would suggest to see the movie before you read the book the movie is good until you read the book and i thought did they even read it?? The movie is good but in a totally different way than the book. I loved the book so much I am going to read it again I found myself in this book and feel like it should be shared with everyone who has a hard time showing their emotions and feel lost and of course loves to get to know new people with an open mind. If you do not like this book, then I don't like your taste or you are delusional...
Brittney wrote: "This is the type of book you either love it or hate it and boy did i love it! I found myself in every word she said, I could not help but feel motivated even though it was a slightly depressing boo..."There you go categorizing everyone who dislikes this book as delusional???? Maybe you need to look in the mirror!!! you sound very immature :(
I might try reading it again, just couldn't get "into" it. Just my opinion. That makes me delusional? Don't think so, geeze!!!!! Books are very much suited to each individual's taste and what they enjoy reading.
Charlene wrote: "Brittney wrote: "This is the type of book you either love it or hate it and boy did i love it! I found myself in every word she said, I could not help but feel motivated even though it was a slight..."
I believe that one paragraph does not define someone. As writing the word delusional was obviously being sarcastic. maybe you should check your head before mine...
I believe that one paragraph does not define someone. As writing the word delusional was obviously being sarcastic. maybe you should check your head before mine...
Diane wrote: "I might try reading it again, just couldn't get "into" it. Just my opinion. That makes me delusional? Don't think so, geeze!!!!! Books are very much suited to each individual's taste and what th..."
I did not mean everyone who does not like this book is delusional! I believe everyone has their own way of reading books and what they like. If that was your opinion to say you didn't like it that's fine, but don't say that i'm wrong for loving it. Minds can travel to all sorts of different pieces of art, if you want to stay with what is comfortable to you, then that is your choice to keep learning the same thing over and over again. I think you should try reading it again because it can be a very good read...if you need to talk about the book I am here to help you try to find out why you didn't like it. But please don't think just because i made a sarcastic comment means you are delusional
I did not mean everyone who does not like this book is delusional! I believe everyone has their own way of reading books and what they like. If that was your opinion to say you didn't like it that's fine, but don't say that i'm wrong for loving it. Minds can travel to all sorts of different pieces of art, if you want to stay with what is comfortable to you, then that is your choice to keep learning the same thing over and over again. I think you should try reading it again because it can be a very good read...if you need to talk about the book I am here to help you try to find out why you didn't like it. But please don't think just because i made a sarcastic comment means you are delusional
Diane wrote: "I might try reading it again, just couldn't get "into" it. Just my opinion. That makes me delusional? Don't think so, geeze!!!!! Books are very much suited to each individual's taste and what th..."
the reason why you didn't like this book is because you didn't try hard enough or had no interest in the first place. Just my opinion! You didn't even get past Italy, of course you didn't like the book because you never finished it....
the reason why you didn't like this book is because you didn't try hard enough or had no interest in the first place. Just my opinion! You didn't even get past Italy, of course you didn't like the book because you never finished it....
Xenia wrote: "All of you who liked this book feel free to friend me."
oh thank you finally someone you likes this book!
oh thank you finally someone you likes this book!
Charlene wrote: "Being condescending is also not helpful and is demeaning! People can dislike a book no matter what there reasons. It just seems that if you like the book you can't allow others to dislike it! We ha..."
Then you haven't read enough books......
Then you haven't read enough books......
Charlene wrote: "Being condescending is also not helpful and is demeaning! People can dislike a book no matter what there reasons. It just seems that if you like the book you can't allow others to dislike it! We ha..."
I think your problem is you like twilight enough to say it is your favorite book.....enough said
I think your problem is you like twilight enough to say it is your favorite book.....enough said
I think as long as you understand that this book plays on everyone's desire for fantasy--than it's a good read. I want to rage when authors present this as a viable option for the average Joe/Jane. But as they say--"everyone has a story" I guess this is her take on hers.
Pam wrote: "I think as long as you understand that this book plays on everyone's desire for fantasy--than it's a good read. I want to rage when authors present this as a viable option for the average Joe/Jane...."
very true
very true
Brittney wrote: "Charlene wrote: "Being condescending is also not helpful and is demeaning! People can dislike a book no matter what there reasons. It just seems that if you like the book you can't allow others to ..."Sorry but I'm a Jane Austin fan and a fan of the classics. Though I did enjoy Twilight and a lot of other nonsensical books, for pure enjoyment: I wouldn't even begin to wonder what enjoyment could come from "Eat,Pray,Love" Except throwing in the trash bin!!! lol lol BTY I've read over 100 books last year and this year I've already read over 60. Maybe your talking about yourself. Again it seems the common tread with the lovers of this book is there judgemental over what others are allowed to dislike!!! No amount of berating us is going to change our minds, the book suuuccckkkeeddd!!!!
Wow you have a very bad attitude! That is plenty of books and i give you a lot of credit to take the motivation to read that many books. I think being 'protective' is a better word than judgmental. I have read well over the amount of 200 books and i'm only 18 i think you have a few more years ahead of me....I feel it is rude to speak for others, it shows bad character "of berating us is going to change OUR minds" you look well over 40 to be using slang words and stretching them out to make them "stronger". You are right Jane Austen is amazing and I love the classics too. Eat, Pray, Love has a spot in my heart because I love traveling and exploring new places, she did have a negative attitude but I over looked it because her words came across as venting not blaming or pity. You may not like this book fine by me but remember that it doesn't matter how many books you read in the end it comes down to your actions! Wow trowing in the trash, little drastic much? are you really laughing out loud or are you trying to act "cool"? Come trend with the readers of this book to act judgmental? The only way you would know that is if you looked for the negative. Love it of Hate it either way your obsessed. Such a fan you spelled her name wrong, it's Jane Austen.
Charlene wrote: "Brittney wrote: "Charlene wrote: "Being condescending is also not helpful and is demeaning! People can dislike a book no matter what there reasons. It just seems that if you like the book you can't..."
Cut out all these exclamation points. An exclamation point is like laughing at your own joke.
F. Scott Fitzgerald
Cut out all these exclamation points. An exclamation point is like laughing at your own joke.
F. Scott Fitzgerald
Brittney wrote: "Wow you have a very bad attitude! That is plenty of books and i give you a lot of credit to take the motivation to read that many books. I think being 'protective' is a better word than judgmental...."
Five exclamation marks, the sure sign of an insane mind.
Terry Pratchett
Five exclamation marks, the sure sign of an insane mind.
Terry Pratchett
Brittney wrote: "Wow you have a very bad attitude! That is plenty of books and i give you a lot of credit to take the motivation to read that many books. I think being 'protective' is a better word than judgmental...."I only mentioned the books because you belittled me stating that I had the mentality to have only read "Twilight"!! And for a bad attitude, you are the one who made dispaging remarks about why I disliked the book! I'm allowed to dislike this book and BTY This blog was started by a person like me disliked the book hence the name "Puke,Hate,Rage". Whether or not you have read 200 books or not is really quite irrelavent, apparently your too childish to realise not everyone has your opinion about a book! Those of us who diliked this book has nothing to to with wanting to travel or being jeleous. Apparently you need to do a lot more reading. maybe in the personal enlightenment category
Brittney wrote: "Charlene wrote: "Brittney wrote: "Charlene wrote: "Being condescending is also not helpful and is demeaning! People can dislike a book no matter what there reasons. It just seems that if you like t..."!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now you're the immature one. Why don't you look in your own mirror while your reading one of your Jane AUSTIN books?....
Just helping you see YOURSELF. You made this whole dialogue condescending. I didn't make diparaging remarks on how you liked the book, but you felt that you needed to be nasty! You get what you give! Next time you remark on someone elses view point, THINK. How would you like being talked to in that way. 18 and you need to grow up! That's all I will say anymore. Hope you enjoy you YA reading!!!!!!!!
Charlene wrote: "Brittney wrote: "Wow you have a very bad attitude! That is plenty of books and i give you a lot of credit to take the motivation to read that many books. I think being 'protective' is a better word..."
For reading over 160 books in two years, you have very bad grammar. Wow i'm belittling you, no your doing that to yourself. I did not realize at first that this was a hate "blog" let alone the title haha I was to excited to see that it was this book. How about you get over yourself and don't reply again. You opinion does not matter to me. Personal enlightenment is for people who are lost, go find yourself there, you don't have much time. I only stated that i read those books because you were so eager to tell me how much you read just wanted to inform you that you are not the brightest or best person you think you are. Yes I made specific remarks about YOU wow you're vain.
For reading over 160 books in two years, you have very bad grammar. Wow i'm belittling you, no your doing that to yourself. I did not realize at first that this was a hate "blog" let alone the title haha I was to excited to see that it was this book. How about you get over yourself and don't reply again. You opinion does not matter to me. Personal enlightenment is for people who are lost, go find yourself there, you don't have much time. I only stated that i read those books because you were so eager to tell me how much you read just wanted to inform you that you are not the brightest or best person you think you are. Yes I made specific remarks about YOU wow you're vain.
Brittney wrote: "the reason why you didn't like this book is because you didn't try hard enough or had no interest in the first place...I have read well over the amount of 200 books and i'm only 18 i think you have a few more years ahead of me...."Obviously you were not speaking to me when you wrote these comments, but I wish to address them anyway (without sarcasm, snide remarks, or attacking others, I would like to discuss the book). I think enjoying or not enjoying this book has a lot to do with where someone is in life. I think perhaps at 18 I may have found Gilbert heroic, exciting, taking her life and spirituality into her own hands. As a 28 year old wife, however, I find it cowardly. I was frustrated by her lack of commitment, how flippantly she treats her relationships, and how focused on herself she seems to be. It made the story an unpleasant one. She seems to encourage treating the world around her as a place to glean what an individual needs from it. I don't think its that people aren't trying hard enough to get something out of the book, I think that they didn't start in the same place to begin with. And by the end, she didn't seem to learn a whole lot from the experience except how to put on a good smile and enjoy being selfish rather than be depressed about it. I'm interested to see how her next memoir goes, if she writes one/has written one. I think she is an excellent writer, but unless Eat Pray Love has a part two that doesn't involve her using everyone around her to make her feel better, I will remain frustrated with this book. As for the 'delusional' comment that everyone is up in arms over, its wise to specify when you are being sarcastic in forums like these because we don't know each other and cannot always tell when someone is being sarcastic or dead serious. Have you read Bill Bryson? You mentioned in a comment having a heart for travel, and seeing that you are clever and have a mean sarcastic streak - you may love him. I think he's wonderful in a surly old man who is secretly jolly kind of way. Also, as a book lover, check out Phil Collins Sixpence House: Lost in a Town of Books, its lovely.
Hedda wrote: "I guess, well, yes, I think it is that bad. Some one gave it to me to read in order to heal myself after my long term relationship failed. The more I read the more puked, hated and raged, instead o..."I totally agree!
Anakalia84 wrote: "Brittney wrote: "the reason why you didn't like this book is because you didn't try hard enough or had no interest in the first place...I have read well over the amount of 200 books and i'm only 18..."
Thanks for sharing book ideas to read. I will check him out. I don't think age has anything to do with knowledge and someone younger can have a lot more tragedies/experiences early than the next. I don't believe anyone is up in arms about my comment. But thank you for the opinion, I appreciated your honesty.
Thanks for sharing book ideas to read. I will check him out. I don't think age has anything to do with knowledge and someone younger can have a lot more tragedies/experiences early than the next. I don't believe anyone is up in arms about my comment. But thank you for the opinion, I appreciated your honesty.
My comment earlier about "being delusional" I'm a naturally sarcastic person and did not mean it in anyway. I could love and book and you can dislike it or vice versa. I'm sorry for anyone who had to put their arms up because they were so distressed about my comment or had an anger streak.:)But it is my comment and my opinion and i'm not going to delete it because then it would mean my outlook doesn't matter. Which is the whole point of writing your view on the book right?
Brittney wrote: "My comment earlier about "being delusional" I'm a naturally sarcastic person and did not mean it in anyway. I could love and book and you can dislike it or vice versa. I'm sorry for anyone who had ..."Oh absolutely. I like opinions. I especially love to hear out people who disagree with me, it makes life more interesting you know. I don't think deleting comments is ever a good idea. If we were having this conversation in person we couldn't 'delete' what we have said. But sometimes its good to discuss what has been said, make sure people are on the same page. Also, I don't mean to suggest that your view of the book is wrong or invalid because of age, I just know that in my case I would have seen it very differently prior to marriage. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I am assuming at 18 you are not married. Not that being married at 18 is a problem, just that most people aren't these days. A person cannot control their experiences and it seems Gilbert has had quite an intense life. But one can control their reactions and the way they treat the institution of marriage (something I take very seriously). Divorce is something that makes me deeply sad, and maybe in that regard I am entirely too sensitive, but if you read my reviews you may find a reoccuring theme in my views of people who have given up or been given up on. In every situation I am either angry at them or sad for them, or a steady mixture of both. I hope your adventurous heart gets all the travel it can and is deeply satisfied with life, as I wish for everyone. Just do it with love and devotion to following through on your decisions and commitments, and it will be that much sweeter.
Anakalia84 wrote: "Brittney wrote: "My comment earlier about "being delusional" I'm a naturally sarcastic person and did not mean it in anyway. I could love and book and you can dislike it or vice versa. I'm sorry fo..."
Thank you very much for this comment it made me smile. No I am not married:) I agree with you about divorce but I also believe marriage is a bigger commitment and some people like Elizabeth made the wrong choice just to be comfortable with what she knows. I did not like the beginning because she got divorced or had relations with other men pretty much just for sex. But I was very proud of her for starting over and getting out of a bad situation( a wonderful quote "If you do not change direction, you may end up where you are heading")I was very proud of her for leaving not for the divorce but she realized God only gave her one life and she better live it. I know many women who are still married just because they need him or fear. I would rather live than survive. I understand at my age this was exciting but it also gave me a view on mistakes and how to avoid using people.I got a lot from this book that I will carry with me and never settle. "If your not scared of your dreams, then they must not be big enough.":) Thank you again for your kind comment:)I will take your advice.
Thank you very much for this comment it made me smile. No I am not married:) I agree with you about divorce but I also believe marriage is a bigger commitment and some people like Elizabeth made the wrong choice just to be comfortable with what she knows. I did not like the beginning because she got divorced or had relations with other men pretty much just for sex. But I was very proud of her for starting over and getting out of a bad situation( a wonderful quote "If you do not change direction, you may end up where you are heading")I was very proud of her for leaving not for the divorce but she realized God only gave her one life and she better live it. I know many women who are still married just because they need him or fear. I would rather live than survive. I understand at my age this was exciting but it also gave me a view on mistakes and how to avoid using people.I got a lot from this book that I will carry with me and never settle. "If your not scared of your dreams, then they must not be big enough.":) Thank you again for your kind comment:)I will take your advice.
This book was excellent. The author certainly did not set out to change lives, though her story might do just that. or at least give helpful hints. I know I learned a lot when I read this book. Could it be that those who hated, puked and raged are too busy hating, puking and raging to let something good make a difference in their lives?? A book with positive messages will not resonate with someone, um, not positive.
Maria wrote: "This book was excellent. The author certainly did not set out to change lives, though her story might do just that. or at least give helpful hints. I know I learned a lot when I read this book. ..."Interesting assessment Maria. While I was not bowled over by the book I don't see anything to puke, hate and rage about. That is just way over the top to me.
Obviously puke, hate, rage is an exaggeration for the sake of a catchy discussion title. But I think the general consensus among nay sayers is that the over all message of the book did not seem like a positive one to us. At least, that's what this nay sayer thinks. Out of curiosity and sincere interest, however, what was it you learned?
Anakalia84 wrote: "Obviously puke, hate, rage is an exaggeration for the sake of a catchy discussion title. But I think the general consensus among nay sayers is that the over all message of the book did not seem li..."
Even though you didn't ask ME. I will answer. 1)I learned from the written words of this book that someone somewhere will love me for who I am and i should not change myself just to fit it. Doesn't matter if your bitchy,shy,cocky,negative person someone will love you and see beyond. Her pain was just a layer on top of what she truly is. If you have (not saying you haven't) met someone in so much pain/lose you can't tell how really deep they fell and how stuck they are.2) I learned that if you are not close to yourself(the purpose of meditation is to find your inner self)you can't fully be close to someone else. 3)Taking the time to enjoy life is the reasons for living 4)Don't settle for something or someone you don't want. 5) Always put your kind heart first and people will want to join you. 6) Patience,Patience,patience. She(Liz) may be a terrible person to make relations with,pity party, and annoying person. But I don't have her eyes I have my own. First person does not say "and then YOU walked down the street" it says"and then I walked down the street". Don't put it as your journey it was hers and I got to follow. A comment early(not sure if it was from you) but she said I believe this book was made up because who would travel to another country without knowing anyone. Well, a family friend of mine went to Thailand for 2 months without knowing anyone and she loved it. It all depends on who you are and what you want to do, people shouldn't assume just because they never did/wanted to do something doesn't mean someone else can't. Nothing would ever get done if we were all followers. 7)Be a leader and trail a different path. At the end of the book I was still me, at no point while reading this book did I turn into liz:) She was sharing a bad parts of her life because life isn't fair if you don't like complaining don't complain it's called a hypocrite. That is what I learned and it also helped me understand when I am doing something wrong because of her mistakes. That's just my take on it someone could learn nothing or something more. You just have to look for the treasure in a book, but if you don't have glasses good luck:)
Even though you didn't ask ME. I will answer. 1)I learned from the written words of this book that someone somewhere will love me for who I am and i should not change myself just to fit it. Doesn't matter if your bitchy,shy,cocky,negative person someone will love you and see beyond. Her pain was just a layer on top of what she truly is. If you have (not saying you haven't) met someone in so much pain/lose you can't tell how really deep they fell and how stuck they are.2) I learned that if you are not close to yourself(the purpose of meditation is to find your inner self)you can't fully be close to someone else. 3)Taking the time to enjoy life is the reasons for living 4)Don't settle for something or someone you don't want. 5) Always put your kind heart first and people will want to join you. 6) Patience,Patience,patience. She(Liz) may be a terrible person to make relations with,pity party, and annoying person. But I don't have her eyes I have my own. First person does not say "and then YOU walked down the street" it says"and then I walked down the street". Don't put it as your journey it was hers and I got to follow. A comment early(not sure if it was from you) but she said I believe this book was made up because who would travel to another country without knowing anyone. Well, a family friend of mine went to Thailand for 2 months without knowing anyone and she loved it. It all depends on who you are and what you want to do, people shouldn't assume just because they never did/wanted to do something doesn't mean someone else can't. Nothing would ever get done if we were all followers. 7)Be a leader and trail a different path. At the end of the book I was still me, at no point while reading this book did I turn into liz:) She was sharing a bad parts of her life because life isn't fair if you don't like complaining don't complain it's called a hypocrite. That is what I learned and it also helped me understand when I am doing something wrong because of her mistakes. That's just my take on it someone could learn nothing or something more. You just have to look for the treasure in a book, but if you don't have glasses good luck:)
Sorry, too much to read here...
Brittney wrote: "Anakalia84 wrote: "Obviously puke, hate, rage is an exaggeration for the sake of a catchy discussion title. But I think the general consensus among nay sayers is that the over all message of the b..."Love your answer! No, it wasn't me that said that about travel. I know plenty of people who do it all the time. If I were in the position to do so I'd do it too! Maybe my fault, but I definitely had a hard time getting past her personality while reading. As I mentioned previously, the only thing that kept me reading was her beautiful writing. (And the fact that I love travel books... Frances Mayes is a long time favorite of mine.) I think I also have a lot of religious reservations concerning her 'meditation' and how she approached it. I'm sorry I didn't ask YOU previously ;-)
Obviously, plenty of readers did like the book! Do you loathe them as much as you loathe Gilbert? Why?
You've made your position (opinion) clear. I thought this was a discussion, not a rant/spew party. Others are entitled to their opinions, so why throw a hissy fit when someone disagrees with you?