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What are you reading?
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Dec 13, 2012 03:21PM
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I give it another try, I don't know why but I never got past 1st chapter ;/ no idea why so I got myself audiobook :)
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These books are SO MUCH FUN! Just finished Jinx and A Karma Girl Christmas. Will start on Nightingale soon!
My issue is that I read way faster than anyone could read out loud. I get frustrated with the pace of audiobooks, unless it's something I've read already.
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Angel's Ink is a good book. I wasn't sure I was going to like it after reading the two shorts on the series, but it turned out to be quite enjoyable. I liked her "Dark Days" series, too.
."Angel's Ink is a good book. I wasn't sure I was going to like it after reading the two shorts on the series, but it turned out to be quite enjoyable. I liked her "Dark Days" series, too.
@ Claire:I don't know what people use to listen to audio books now ... I know that I read faster than people talk too and the regular speed for books drove me nuts. I can adjust the speed on my reader though. The tape player that I use to listen to my course work has adjustable speed too.
Don't they make CD players that do that now? I was looking up apps today and saw audio books can be digital now.
I found the bookshare app thing lets you adjust speed too, but I think that is for daisy books only.
I am a dork and babbling so stfu'ing.
my issue with audiobooks is more that I can't take in as much information. I'm mostly a visual or a kinisthetic learner. I need to read myself or do it . . . and you can't really do anything with a book besides read it or listen to it LOL.
Same with me, Zeenat. It's why I haven't tried audiobooks. I don't think I'd retain as much information about the book if I listened to it instead of reading it.
You work with what you have. I am not being bitchy about this FYI. I wanted to read again so I figured out how ... same as using a computer again. It is a pain in the ass to learn something new when the way you have always done it is still available to you.
I have a new screen reader that is up to date but has different controls from the out dated mondo expensive screen reader I usually use. I keep putting off learning the new one because I am not used to it ... maybe if I unstall the old screen reader I will have no choice but to learn it.
I said the bitchy thing because there are blind people out there that are sensitive about what they can do and can't do ... I am so not like that.
Well I usually get myself to listen to an audiobook when I want to read a book but for some reason I can't get passed few pages. It helps me get over that first part and after a while I'm drawn into it's pace. It's also good when you're traveling and like me you get car sick so you can close your eyes and focus on something else (of course if you're not the one driving the car :p).
I am as well a visual learner but closing my eyes help me to actually "see" the story in my head. I'm strange and when I read a book I get so into it that if there is written "the wind blows" I actually feel the breeze on my skin but I'm still focused on letters so in some way it's not as real and when I close my eyes and listen to a book I actually watch the scene like a movie or theater performance.
See, strange or maybe crazy. I don't know. Oh and yeah 'cause English is not my native language it helps to know how to pronounce some words especially if it's a fantasy books and those words are "new". Does that make any sense to you? If not sorry for blabbering :)
@Margo - not blabbering at all. I can't really get behind audio books coz I read faster, plus more importantly the accents can turn me off. I don't like them a lot of the times and so... yeah. So I guess for me it all depends on the reader (hence my utter dislike for the NH audiobooks) but I guess when I do listen, I do it just the way you do. Close my eyes and listen, concentrating on nothing else.
Zeenat wrote: "These books are SO MUCH FUN! Just finished Jinx and A Karma Girl Christmas. Will start on Nightingale soon!"
I just finished the reread of the Bigtime seriess - knocked them out in two days' I love the series - it's a fun and easy read.
I just finished the reread of the Bigtime seriess - knocked them out in two days' I love the series - it's a fun and easy read.
I can't do audio books - there's something about them that put me to sleep in minutes! Seriously, minutes. I can't sleep any other time but put in an audio book and I'm out. That means if I put it back in I have to try to find where I left off, blah, blah, blah.
And kudos to you Llaph, not only have you beat the system and do what you want, but you can stay awake through the whole book!
And kudos to you Llaph, not only have you beat the system and do what you want, but you can stay awake through the whole book!
@Jax - I'd make a suggestion, but I just keep doing rereads. I have a ton of new stuff, I start it, and next thing I know I'm back to reading something over again.
Margo wrote: "Well I usually get myself to listen to an audiobook when I want to read a book but for some reason I can't get passed few pages. It helps me get over that first part and after a while I'm drawn int..."That totally makes sense. :)
I am a visual learner too but unlike you all it takes about the same number of hours to read a book than the audiobook. I'm faster but not by much. I wish I was. :(Did you learn fast reading techniques or something?
I took a college level speed reading class when I was twelve. You learn a lot about techniques that help you read faster, but the bottom line is you have to have a built-in knack for reading for it to help immensely. I learned to read at about 4 years of age, and it seemed that I liked to read better than play or socialize, so I guess it's ingrained in me. That's not to say I always want to knock a book out in a couple of hours; sometimes it's more enjoyable to just take the time to read it slowly.
I was always a fast reader, even as a kid. It's like I tried to get in as much information as I could as fast as I could. Studying psychology and grad school also helps. You have to learn how to read as much information as possible in the shortest time. So you learn also how to pick out important stuff.
I sometimes do miss some of the intricacies--but that's why rereads are awesome too. I still pick out stuff in books that I have read a lot.
Someone told me once that fast readers don't hear voices in their heads when reading, but my characters always have distinct voices and personalities, so I don't know...
I can read relatively quickly, but I don't feel I enjoy the book or retain as much. I guess, on average, when I'm reading at my comfortable, leisurely speed a book takes me about 6hours.
Zeenat wrote: "Someone told me once that fast readers don't hear voices in their heads when reading, but my characters always have distinct voices and personalities, so I don't know... "Do you mean like a voice saying the words as you read them? I don't experience that. I don't consider myself a speed reader by any means, but I don't think I'm especially slow either. I can certainly read much faster than an audio book.
Valerie, am I right in saying that French is your first language? Or is it English?
I think even if I knew how to speed-read, I'm not sure I would do it when reading for pleasure. It's one thing to have to be able to take in a lot of info for your job, but when unwinding, I think I'd want to take my time since it's not a race! I suppose once a habit becomes ingrained though, it becomes second nature to read that way.
lol, French is my first language but i don't have any problems with English. Whenever I had references books for school, they were always is english.
Valerie, I just thought maybe it was the translating that slowed you down, but I guess you really have two languages that you're equally fluent with.I never really think about the speed I read, though I know I'm a little faster than some people when I've read stuff side by side with them. But it's such a personal thing most of the time that it doesn't really matter so long as it's a pace that's comfortable for you.
I find it interesting that some people might say the words in their head as they read. I only ever do that if perhaps I'm trying to commit something to memory or maybe if it's a particularly complicated concept I'm trying to grasp. Actually, I'll probably read aloud if that's the case. Somehow, hearing the words as well as reading them helps me understand more easily.
God, I sound like a five year old LOL!
Lannister wrote: "Do you mean like a voice saying the words as you read them? I don't experience that. I don't consider myself a speed reader by any means, but I don't think I'm especially slow either. I can certainly read much faster than an audio book."Like it's a tv/audio show, The voices are the characters in your head. Like Cassie has a different tone and style and Pritkin in my head. Mircea is all smooth and what not.
Now that I think about it though, it's usually books that I have read more than a few times, and in series. so like the cassie books, harry potter, hollows, etc.
Sometimes when I'm reading to my husband (it was the only way to get him started on the Hollows LOL) I would do the voices outloud and he just laughed at me :X. lol
I have heard that too, Zeenat. Supposedly actually saying the words in your head is what slows people down.If I listen to an audio, I change the setting to double speed. I also don't listen to overly complex books, just something simple to pass the time (like listening to music).
Yeah, it does slow things down when you 'say' the words in your head.When you listen to audio books on a faster speed, don't the characters start to sound like The Smurfs or something? I'm imagining some squeaky voice reading me a story LOL!
Gin wrote: "I have heard that too, Zeenat. Supposedly actually saying the words in your head is what slows people down."Well, I don't know any other way to read (ie I always subvocalize). I mean I don't do different voices or anything. How can you approach reading a text differently? I'm just curious.
Duane wrote: "Angel's Ink is a good book. I wasn't sure I was going to like it after reading the two shorts on the series, but it turned ..."So far I like it. The 2 shorts were like setting background of the supporting characters and did not really seem....finished...like it was part of the book and was taken out. I like the concept about the unique problem around Angels' ink. It's a little of the Dresden Files with the whole guardian thing.
Finals have sort of killed of the possibility of starting anything new. I can't afford to get sucked into a book or I won't study!I am working on a re-read of Fury's Kiss though.
My reading fast stems from the fact I tend to be impatient … With books I just read really fast but I read fast and if there was something that I did not understand I stopped and went back and read it till I did. Same with listening, it is like it plays in the background and then something snags my attention and I hit back till I can go over it again and understand it.With audio books, when I first got my reader I left the speed setting alone, then I put it up once after a while, then again, and again till I can’t increase the speed anymore. I have tried to listen to a book at a normal speed, but if it is a book I have been wanting to read I hit the speed up because I want to read it and read it now.
I get what Zeenat said as I do the same thing. I did it when I could still see and I do it even now while listening to a book. ) That is hard to describe for sure.) With listening fast you build up getting used to the speed and once you get used to it you increase it again. The voice sounds, well on my old talking book player increasing the speed made the book sound like Alvin the chipmunk was reading to me. With my reader now I can adjust the tone and pitch so it is not as bad.
If you want to read the story and it is a good story you just get used to it and do not pay attention to it because it draws you in.
I just finished my 9th book this month, titled
Blood Price (Victoria Nelson, #1) by Tanya Huff . My next book is
Blood Trail (Victoria Nelson, #2) by Tanya Huff
Valerie ~ Val Hall ~ wrote: "Gin wrote: "I have heard that too, Zeenat. Supposedly actually saying the words in your head is what slows people down."Well, I don't know any other way to read (ie I always subvocalize). I mean..."
I mean I guess you can just straight up read it as if it was "bland" text, like a research paper.
I agree Llaph you get used to the speed. In fact because I'm used to reading faster, when I have the audio at normal speed I tend to get bored and distracted.I finished and loved
It was nice to read something with a fresh and original world!Now I'm starting
for two different gargoyle challenges
@Margo A note on the Highlander series- the books get better once you get to the third one. You don't have to read the first two, either, if you really hate them.
No problem! I really liked the books when she started writing about the Keltars...they start to tie into the Fever books.
Thanks, so do I have to read fever to know some of the characters and is it connected with Highlander action or is it totally separated?
I haven't read the Highlander books, yet but I don't think you'd need to read Fever to understand what's going on in that series. Claire would know better than I do.
Margo wrote: "Thanks, so do I have to read fever to know some of the characters and is it connected with Highlander action or is it totally separated?"Because the Highlander books came first, you don't need to know anything about the Fever world to read them. But, if you are familiar with the Fever books, it's interesting to see the connections.
Regardless, I definitely prefer the later books.
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