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What was that thing at King's Cross...?

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message 1: by Yazid (Ciel) (last edited Oct 07, 2012 08:31PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Yazid (Ciel) I am considering the possibility that that thing is actually the Hocrux, seeing (thinking/imagining) that thing is really ugly and no way in Hell Hocruxes are beautiful.

PS: I disagree with Albus's view of "don't pity the dead" thing.


Aɴɴᴇ Oɴ ᴛʜᴇ ᴇᴅɢᴇ ᴏғ ᴍʏ sᴇᴀᴛ ᴀʙᴏᴜᴛ ᴛᴏ ғᴀʟʟ ɪɴᴛᴏIan Kabra wasn't it Voldemort?


message 3: by Yazid (Ciel) (last edited Oct 07, 2012 08:46PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Yazid (Ciel) Aɴɴᴇ wrote: "wasn't it Voldemort?"

Hoxcruxes are parts of Voldermort's soul, if I am not mistaken. Not trying to convince anyone, though.


ѕтαяк It was supposed to be a part of Voldemort, left to die, I think that they mentioned that in the movie, or maybe the book...


Jeni It's the part of Voldemort that attached to Harry the night the curse rebounded off of Lily. Voldemort needed to be the one to "kill" Harry because he would be the only one that could excise that part of himself.


Tracy Yeah, so you could say it is the Hocrux of Voldemort...


Jeni Not exactly--Harry was the Horcrux. A horcrux just holds the part of the soul you are trying to save.


Tracy Well, yes, but only a portion of his soul was, not his whole body and soul, so he technically wasn't the Hocrux, he was just carrying it...


Nermin wasn't it part of Voldemort's soul that was inside Harry?


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Dantryi Narmin wrote: "wasn't it part of Voldemort's soul that was inside Harry?"

Yes it was.. I always thought it was the Human part of Voldemort's soul, you know the love and forgiveness part. That he had no idea about..


message 11: by Avani (last edited Oct 08, 2012 12:59PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Avani It was the maimed piece of Voldemort's soul that was left. Think of it this way; when Harry's soul was cleansed of Voldemort, after being hit with the Killing Curse, he was pictured, unclothed, like a person born anew. I feel that the creature in "King's Cross" was the remnants of Voldemort's soul, just as Harry in that scene as pictured as the remnants of his soul.


Benhanna Yazid wrote: "Aɴɴᴇ wrote: "wasn't it Voldemort?"

Hoxcruxes are parts of Voldermort's soul, if I am not mistaken. Not trying to convince anyone, though."


i thought that it was the part of Voldemort that harry killed when he let Voldemort kill him . because the first time Voldemort tried to kill Harry he lost a peace of his soul and that peace lached to the only living thing there which was Harry, so Harry became a Horcrux and when Harry let Voldemort kill him Voldemort killed harry and that part of his own soul. so that thing in kings cross is a peace of voldemort's soul .


Yazid (Ciel) Wow. Never thought someone would reply at my comment. Oh well. Whatever.

I really want to make it simple. Harry's is a Horcrux (a host carrying Voldermort's incomplete soul: Naruto, anyone?), yes. But what is inside the Horcrux? Voldermort's soul (incomplete, a partial, whatsoever, it is still a soul). And therefore, by killing Harry, Voldermort miss the fact that he is detaching his soul from Harry.

And so, to sum it up; The ugly creature is Voldermort's soul.

But I find this question really interesting; Why was J.K. portrayed that soul as "ugly"?

My personal answer: Because it reflects Voldermort. The good side of him, which is born with him, are diminishing, ignored, isolated, etc. J.K. is basically (maybe) making a statement; "This is the corrupted nature of Voldermort's soul which supposedly makes him a human. And look at it; it's not human already."

PS: I only read the last book and not in English. Sorry if I have mistakes in my opinion.


Patrick Bateman I think you might be reading too much into this.....


Gabrielle L. It was probably part of Voldemort's soul,(horcrux) They show the "thing" at King's Cross in the movie. It looks sort of like Voldemort, if you ask me.


message 16: by Yazid (Ciel) (last edited Oct 09, 2012 10:50PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Yazid (Ciel) Feven wrote: "Yazid wrote: "Wow. Never thought someone would reply at my comment. Oh well. Whatever.

I really want to make it simple. Harry's is a Horcrux (a host carrying Voldermort's incomplete soul: Naruto, ..."


Um, Malay? I don't know if you have heard of it. But I kind of skeptical to read that book, but when I compared it with the English one, it did (and still does) not seems that bad. I mean, I understand the emotions better than the original one.

So, I speak mostly in Malay and sometimes English. But I don't know if this counted, but I can speak Indonesian Malay, Minang dialect and kind of understand Kerinchi dialect.

@ Gabrielle

I know.


Moonlight I think the thing under the bench at Kings Cross was Voldemort's soul. Poor, hurt, damaged thing that Harry couldn't save or help.


Currer Jean It was Voldemort's soul. The dredges of it really. It was weak and sick, the embodiment of what was truly left of the Dark Lord without all of his magic to keep him alive.


message 19: by Emma (new) - rated it 5 stars

Emma It was not the part of soul that was in Harry. That part was completely destroyed.

The thing at King's Cross was what was left in Voldemort. Both Harry and Voldemort went to the King's Cross place--but Harry was fine because his soul was whole, and Voldemort was an ugly, senseless little thing because that's what the last of his soul was like. Remember how Voldemort got knocked down when Harry did in the forest? In King's Cross, we saw how different their souls were.


message 20: by Katrina (new)

Katrina Jean @Yazid your definition of the Horcrux is the most insightful one. I don't think you're" looking too into it", I think you're right on what that piece of voldermort was suppose to portray. I was looking everywhere for movie/book analysis on certain parts of the series. Yours make sense.


message 21: by Dawn (new)

Dawn Corrigan Yazid (Ciel) wrote: "I am considering the possibility that that thing is actually the Hocrux, seeing (thinking/imagining) that thing is really ugly and no way in Hell Hocruxes are beautiful.

PS: I disagree with Albus'..."


I agree re your P.S.! Seems like another moment where Harry's instincts are better, and kinder, than Dumbledore's.


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