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Yeah, I can agree with that about Baelfire issues. I wonder why Regina pretended she didn't know Jefferson when Emma asked her? I found that sorta odd. OR did she really forget Jefferson. OR is Jefferson gone from the world completely? Well, no because he will need to help Emma and Snow get out of that world. oh well, too soon to start speculating anyway
I thought it was really sad that Mulan was also in love with Prince Phillip and then before he dies I think when he says "I love you" he said it to Mulan and not Aurora. I also thought it was weird how it was so hard for Regina to use magic before they banished the wraith and then 5 mins later she had vines from wallpaper wrap around david. It didn't make any sense.
Kayla wrote: "I also thought it was weird how it was so hard for Regina to use magic before they banished the wraith and then 5 mins later she had vines from wallpaper wrap around david. It didn't make any sense. "I think that they said that magic is unpredictable in Storybrooke.
What I didn't understand tonight was why Mr. Gold was so upset that he couldn't leave Storybrooke. Why would he want to? I thought he wanted his full power back. If he left Storybrooke, he would be like everyone else...presumably.
Glad to see Jefferson back, even if it was only briefly. I think that was my favorite episode in Season 1.
And I like the kinder Regina in one way, but we need an Evil Queen. Maybe Cora will fill that role this season?
Chimney wrote: "I personally think that Henry's dad is going to end up being Baelfire"Hope so.
Chimney wrote: "Lynn, I think Mr. Gold wanted the curse to happen and to be able to leave when it broke to be able to search for Baelfire, however, he still isn't ready to let his power go. I don't know what he would revert back to though because he had all his memories during the curse. "True - I should have thought of that...he wants to find Baelfire.
But I did think about what he would revert back to as well since he had all his memories during the curse. I wonder if he worries that he will lose his powers as Rumplestilskin? Just a guess - really don't know.
Did you guys see the newest epsiode i cant belive what happens to them when they leave and ever since it started i have been wondering two things where is Pinnochio and who was that guy from the begining of the first ep. also when the prince said "I love you" who was he talking to beauty or mulan?
I wonder if Jefferson will be with his daughter soon by the way he acted something seemed to be wrong
I need to rewatch from Season 1, Episode 1. There are so many characters that I am losing track of some of them. Not the major characters, but some of the others.
I wonder if Gram will come back. I think that's his name, the hunter. I really liked his character. The Hatter and Pinocchio have been interesting. I'd like to see Alice!
I'm looking forward to tonight's episode with hook.But while I like this season, I miss certain elements of the first season. I liked the evil Regina causing trouble. We haven't seen much of Mr. Gold/Rumplestilskin. I liked the "tough" Emma, not the Emma outside of her element.
Chimney wrote: "The Jefferson and Grace scene during tonight's episode kicked me in the gut! Not to mention Prince Charming's mother..."That was a great scene. Really like Jefferson's character. I wish they would expand it a bit.
Dr.Whale is looking like Dr.Frankenstein in the episode, that's a nice addition to the story line. Hook could of been a great bad guy, so sick of the bad guys having some deep pain that drives them to the dark side. Just be bad.
Okay, personally I am not liking Belle and Mr. Gold's relationship right now. Season 1, I loved them. I understand that she is upset about him lying to her, and it really irritates me that he continues to do things like for instance, revenge on Regina. If he really had changed when he fell in love with her he wouldn't be doing these things, it just doesn't make sense.Anyway, Hook, I'm loving. Guyliner could never look better.
And I still haven't accepted the Hunstman's death. I do no accept. I want him back. Grrr so many loose ends were tied up at the end of season 1 and now they are all getting unraveled again.
Sydney wrote: "Okay, personally I am not liking Belle and Mr. Gold's relationship right now. Season 1, I loved them. I understand that she is upset about him lying to her, and it really irritates me that he conti..."I disagree. I like that Belle gives Rump some grief on the matter. If she hadn't, then Rump wouldn't have decided to be honest with her. Now that Belle understands his urge and NEED for magic, she can now understand him. Like Rump said, he didn't lie, he skirted the truth. It makes sense that Rump asked for guidance in relationships from Charming as well. Rump needs to understand how relationships work with two people, not with one person. To me, Rump is the best character because he is very human and very magical at the same time. This is why we always wonder if he's bad or good. I'm glad that happened between Belle and Rump because now she will see that things are always gray and not black and white with Rump
Christa wrote: "To me, Rump is the best character because he is very human and very magical at the same time. This is why we always wonder if he's bad or good. I'm glad that happened between Belle and Rump because now she will see that things are always gray and not black and white with Rump "
That's what makes this such a great show. Most of the characters are neither purely good or purely evil, which replicates life. And they explore that area in between. Why do the characters have these flaws.
Although I can see Chimney's point. Sometimes it is refreshing to see someone who is evil for the sake of being evil. Pure evil scares you because there would be no way to reason with the person.
It's pure good that is annoying. There always seems to be a self-righteousness in characters who are purely good. And it's not realistic.
Chimney wrote: "I agree about losing fondness for Mr. Gold's and Belle's relationship, but for different reasons. For me it is more because of Belle. She keeps going from you need me because you're a monster and get away from me you're a monster, and back! It got kind of annoying last episode for me. "
I definitely agree. I like her character, but at the same time, either leave him because he is bad, or decide to stay to help him become "good." But stop going back and forth.
Chimney wrote: "Hook seems like he is going to be a great character, however; him being the new lover of Rumpelstiltskin's wife just didn't do much for me.I am really looking forward to next episode! Daniel is coming back. "
I liked Hook - can't wait to see him again next week. And loved the way he gets his hook in last week's episode.
Good that Daniel is coming back, but I was hoping Graham was coming back. :-)
And again, more Mad Hatter!
I am afraid every time a good looking guy shows up on this show, because most of them seem like they're just there to be killed xD. I read the EW interview with the creators and they said Charming died in the initial pilot. It seems like OUAT's princes are the equivalent of Star Trek Red Shirts.Incidentally, Rumbelle works on paper, but honestly not so interested in the pairing. I kind of just like Rumple/Evil Queen dynamics so much more!
Great episode! First, can't get enough of the Mad Hatter. But - and I really need to rewatch Season 1 again - wasn't he nicer in Season 1? I was a bit surprised by his personality in this episode.
Second, really love the Hook character. With Regina losing her "evil" this season - and I'm not crazy about Cora - Hook will fill the void nicely. And he's not completely evil like Cora. He's got that backstory.
Speaking of Regina, felt bad for her, seeing Daniel die twice. And this time by her hand.
Chimney wrote: "I'm glad they have decided not to kill off Prince Charming...yet anyway."They better not!
And after seeing what happened to Daniel, I guess we're not going to see Graham come back from the dead. ;)
It would be lovely if Graham came back. And I think that Hook will side with whoever gets him what he wants.
Lynnm wrote: "It would be lovely if Graham came back. And I think that Hook will side with whoever gets him what he wants."Agreed, agreed. I miss Graham. I miss his lovely face.
Also, after this episode with Frankenstein, perhaps Dracula, and maybe Jekyll & Hyde will make an appearance?
I would love to see Dracula!! And J&H would be scary.But this season it seems like there are so many new characters...they need to keep a good balance between the old and the new.
Yeah, you have a point. There are a lot of characters to keep track of. Aurora and Mulan and Philip haven't had much said about them, which is understandable, but it would be nice to know a bit more about their pasts. Hook, too. I'd love to hear every new character's back story but there is just not enough time to cover it all AND keep us updated on Cora, Storybrooke, and the Past. I hope they don't end up killing people off.
I liked how Dr. Frankenstein is named Dr. Whale in Storybrook. Very clever on the writer's part!
I'm just glad that Emma's ability to see through BS works in story/fairytale world as well. I just couldn't stomach the idea of Hook pulling a fast one on a band of tough ladies.Loved our evil queen. Fabulous acting as usual.
Alright last night's episode. Thoughts? Concerns? Plot holes? Go.
Sandy wrote: "I liked how Dr. Frankenstein is named Dr. Whale in Storybrook. Very clever on the writer's part!" I had to look this up! I had no idea... I think it's a little weird that Prince Charming became the sheriff. What!? I do love Ruby, though, and her relationship with PC was quite interesting. I love the whole theme of good vs evil and her inner conflict plays right into that.
Sandy wrote: "I liked how Dr. Frankenstein is named Dr. Whale in Storybrook. Very clever on the writer's part!"I don't get this. (I haven't read Frankenstein, though it's next up on my classics to-read list.) Explain?
Michelle wrote: "Sandy wrote: "I liked how Dr. Frankenstein is named Dr. Whale in Storybrook. Very clever on the writer's part!"I don't get this. (I haven't read Frankenstein, though it's next up on my classics t..."
James Whale was the director of the 1930's black and white Frankenstein movie, which is the inspiration for the "world without color".
Rabbit wrote: "I think it's a little weird that Prince Charming became the sheriff. What!? I do love Ruby, though, and her relationship with PC was quite interesting. "It was interesting - looking forward to what the writers will do with Charming and Ruby.
Also looking forward to what will happen with Emma and Hook.
And glad that Henry is part of the story. He's the one that put everything together in Season 1, and it s/b Henry that is part of a portal between the two worlds.
Hi everyone! I'm a huge fan of fairy tales in their original popularized form and the newer, reimagined versions. That's why I became Hooked on OUAT (har de har har). This season is confirming my worst fears about second seasonitis, which doomed Heroes and True Blood in later seasons. Basically, writers drop a gamechanger bomb on the premise of a show and see how the characters scurry and react. Heroes was all about Save The Cheerleader, Save The World; after they were saved, the premise was Now What? With OUAT, they had the curse and no magic; now, curse broken and in with the magic. The best thing about last season was the development of Emma's relationship with Henry and to an extent Mary Margaret. With the gamechanger (magic, lost in other world), writers are faced with developing plot or characters. New characters keep popping up, making their marketing special guest star heavy and not too deep on the development of old characters. I haven't seen the comments about Ruby's episode so I'll take the leap- I hated it! Such filler and so rushed. I liked the twist in the first episode we learn about her lycanthrope side because it reminded me of Angela Carter and The Company of Wolves. Here, it wasted the mother storyline (hey, writers, diverge from Disney's template of bad mother/daughter relationships and show a loving one). And lastly, I'm itching for Snow and Emma bonding time. Snow has traumatic memories with her dead mother, homicidal stepmother and martyred mother-in-law. It would be nice to explore that and Emma's abandonment issues again.
I just caught up on the last two episodes, and "Child of the Moon" didn't feel like it gave the actors enough to work with. That said, thank goodness for the actors or I'd probably find very little to enjoy about this episode. The CG was sometimes terrible particularly for the wolves. (And the CG in the last episode in the giant's castle was distracting. At times, the scale is ALL wrong.) One of the problems with this season is that there's such a crowded field of characters that it's hard to feel attachments or develop them. And for me, it's the emotional core that has to remain or I get bored. I really don't care much for these new characters because they're given one episode to flesh out "motivations" and that's not enough.
I would really like the character additions to stop at this point ...
Did anyone else wonder if maybe Snow couldn't kiss Charming because snow weakens the effect of poppies?? I couldn't help but think of Oz when Glinda uses snow to wake everyone up. Did I read too much into that??
I just got season one on sale for $8.99 and am looking forward to watching it. I saw a few episodes from season one and what I saw I liked a lot.
I can't wait until it comes back from winter break! :)
Anyone want to talk about Manhatten? I have a theory about Bae :)
I think that he's Peter Pan: it's the only way to explain why he isn't a few hundred years old. And if we look at the original Peter Pan story, how he and Hook were always fighting it makes sense as well. Hook would feel bitter that this kid was Rumple's son, but wouldn't actually want to kill him because he was also Mila's child. A little like Snape in Harry Potter.
I think that he's Peter Pan: it's the only way to explain why he isn't a few hundred years old. And if we look at the original Peter Pan story, how he and Hook were always fighting it makes sense as well. Hook would feel bitter that this kid was Rumple's son, but wouldn't actually want to kill him because he was also Mila's child. A little like Snape in Harry Potter.
Sorry about the double posts! I'm typing from my phone and it fights back sometimes :/
One literature nitpick: there is no Dr. Frankenstein. Victor Frankenstein was a young med student, not a doctor.
Erin, that's a really interesting idea! He is also a little bit of a trouble maker! Definitely makes sense! I'm not sure I understand why August wouldn't have wanted Bae and Emma together earlier on? What do you all think?
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I had assumed that August didn't know who he was and figured he was a normal human.
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Duh thanks. Haha of course that makes so much sense. Guess I should have thought a little harder!Actually... Didn't August not want the curse to be broken because he didn't want to turn back I wood? I might be remembering that wrong.
Lots of people on Facebook are saying he is Peter Pan now and people are wondering who Wendy will be. Maybe Emma and Bae don't end up together and Wendy is Henry's daughter??
The guy at the beginning of the season premiere (who played on TrueBlood) seems more like the dad for Henry to me. Who knows