Insurgent
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Did Four and Beatrice did it already?
hmm, I'd say that because it IS a teenage book it wouldn't really be mentioned explicitly, would it? There's a scene in Insurgent where they sleep together one night after a fight (if I remember correctly!), but there's no mention of sex or anything so who knows?
What I don't seem to understand is why doesn't Tris get periods.
Tris probably gets periods like all normal 16 year olds but we don't have to know about it, do we? i mean i've read many books to this days but never seen any author (well except for EL James) write about female characters' periods.
they came close on time in Insurgent but then Tris started crying so they stopped and slept together the rest of the night, but they didn't have sex.
Melissa wrote: "I really hope that she doesn't ruin it by having them have sex. It would cause me to lose a lot of respect for the author. They're teenagers. She should just let them be teenagers rather than th..."I know right!
Mononoke wrote: "Melissa wrote: "I really hope that she doesn't ruin it by having them have sex. It would cause me to lose a lot of respect for the author. They're teenagers. She should just let them be teenager..."i disagree. who cares if they are teenagers? so what? it's a future society and theres not that much religion involved. so i don't see the problem with it.
they nvr did it, and id think they will cause Tris still has trust issues with Four and he said that loe is about sex so im pretty sure no
Nupe, insurgent they were close, but four said when she is ready ( love it!) in Divergent. Tris was nervous about it in Divergent. ( right now they kind of have no time to themselves, and Tris is on a short leash (in Dog sense) because she was working with Tobias's dad so.. and it would do them good to wait , and it would be good advice for readers in this teen mom world) "WAIT!"
They haven't yet. Should they? That's up to the author.I personally don't mind either way, but I don't think it is a necessary or unnecessary thing to add to the next book.
Not yet...but I believe if they stay together, they will marry and yes...do it....lol maybe even if they dont marry...but I do believe they belong together...
Sarah wrote: "Melissa wrote: "Line wrote: "It would be weird to me, since it is such a low number of teens, that don't have sex...And to me (again, this is just my oponion from where i'm sitting), sex is a natu..."
Many people have yet to go through puberty at the age of 13 or before. Also, most parents are still protective of their children before the age of 13, and they would most likely not go many places without their parents' knowledge, considering they cannot drive and are still considered young children. Tris is 16, and Four is 18. That is very different from pre-pubic children.
No way. Marriage first! they can do everything they want thereafter!
I don't see why people care if they do have sex I mean 16 is the legal age to have it. Also so what if they do have sex it's not persuading them to have it it's just a part of life. Also they already have drunk teenagers in the book ( Divergent) which the legal age is 21 to drink so sex shouldn't be such a big thing to write or read about it like seriously not much of a portion of teenagers and pick up a book a read all of it. So seriously sex is whats important here if she writes that in or not? IT'S A PART OF LIFE!:) <3
If they do I hope it is not to soon and not in to many details. My question is will there be any time because the other books have lots of action and I'm sure this one will also.
I hope they don't, there's way too much going on for them to be focused on that aspect. Should they have romantic scenes? Hell yeah! Do we need to see them have sex? No.
It's pretty much bound to happen just saying they are dauntless they can show affection.
Even if It gets to that point it's really not going to have a huge impact on what it is
I don't really understand why this little topic is so important in book three? Honestly, I couldn't give a rat's ass if they do or not, that's not what I want to read about. I want to know what comes of their society and the people in it, not whether the two main heroes have sex for the first time or not. Does the focus ALWAYS have to be on the sex?
I really don't see how religion plays into this at all. You have yours, I have mine, Veronica Roth has hers. And if you think her mentioning sex in the next book might convince someone to have sex as a teenager, then I would have to disagree. We teach that kind of stuff in sex ed classes and hand out condoms to students. Veronica Roth (and every other author for that matter) probably wouldn't be their introduction to sex in today's day and age.I'm not saying whether or not I think Tris and Four should have sex, but either way I wouldn't be disappointed.
I couldn't agree more!
God, WHO FUCKING CARES. If you got a problem with it, don't read it. Simple as that.
I think that they could end up doing it in the next book, but Veronica Roth probably wouldn't go into as much detail as other authors might do. I think she's evolved Tris and Tobias's relationships too much already, and the only things left to do with them is to either make them have sex, or to create some sort of love triangle.
Yeaa so don't want a love triangle ( please no debate )
Who said that comment was directed towards you anyways?
I don't think Tris and Tobias have time for sex. What with all the fighting and stuff, to have enough personal alone time to actual make a heartfelt connection would be rare. They did have some alone time in Amity's compound at the beginning of Insurgent, but Tris was too worked up about killing her friend. In fact, if I recall, she and Tobias slept together for a night and almost did it, but then Tris remembered that she doesn't have time and that sex isn't the right way to handle situations. Good call on her part, in my opinion.
Nermin wrote: "I assure you, it has nothing to do with being conservative or prude or anything. i have no problem with teenagers or anyone having sex. I just don't want to read about Tris and Four doing 'that', b..."
Agreed
Agreed
I know a lot of twelve year old girls that read this series. In these books for teens, I think having sex in the book is a terrible thing to introduce. Society nowdays is insisting that having sex is okay before a monogamous relationship, and that is what is causing teen pregnancy and STDS. I think it is terrible to write such things in a book with such a young audience. Since the media has such a huge affect on teens, authors should be more careful about what they write in their books. Then their audience might view having sex as having fun and do it while being oblivious to STDS and pregnancy.
Veronica Roth has always been a good author for me to recommend to parents of teens. I hope she doesn't ruin it.
Smiles wrote: "I know a lot of twelve year old girls that read this series. In these books for teens, I think having sex in the book is a terrible thing to introduce. Society nowdays is insisting that having sex ..."I don't think it's right, to claim that book sex leads to STDs or teenpregnancy...
Not using condoms leads to STDs, and not using any form for birthcontrol leads to teenagepregnancy, and pregnancy in alle other ages...
I had teenage sex, and I have NEVER had an STD or been romotely pregnant -> I use and have ALWAYS used protection...
But that doesn't mean that other people will not get an STD.....85% of teenagers that have sex between the ages of 15-23 have an STD and they never find out.
I'm sorry, but I think anyone who thinks teenage sex is okay is an idiot.
Millions of teens each year die from STDS. Just because you didn't get one does not mean others will be so lucky.
And I did NOT say that book sex leads to STDS I am saying that when books promote that, sex is viewed as okay when it shouldn't be.
No and they shouldn't. The book is not about that.
Line wrote: "The Mighty Katara wrote: "Melissa wrote: "Ema wrote: "Melissa wrote: "I really hope that she doesn't ruin it by having them have sex. It would cause me to lose a lot of respect for the author. Th..."I'm one. I waited until I got married at 28. So did my husband. We wanted to wait for the person we knew we'd be committed to in marriage. It's actually a Biblical (not just Christian) principle.
Melissa wrote: "I really hope that she doesn't ruin it by having them have sex. It would cause me to lose a lot of respect for the author. They're teenagers. She should just let them be teenagers rather than th..."
Agreed.
Agreed.
daydreamer wrote: "I think if they do it in the 3rd book it wouldn’t bother me. Many teenagers have had sex these days let alone in the future where their living. Some people on this chat argue that with all their go..."I agree completely. They are going through tons of tough situations and they need to feel like there is always going to be someone there for them. Although I dont think it needs to end up with the "doing it".
Tris and Four did not "did" it yet. (Nor did they "do it").
Mirkat wrote: "Tris and Four did not "did" it yet. (Nor did they "do it")."Actually the question is: Have they done it yet?
We know the answer.
Bad English is the global language.
cloudyskye wrote: "Bad English is the global language."Heh. :)
Accidentally came upon this discussion, cause I was unsure whether they had yet.. clearly not (:Which I'm glad about. I like the rapport they share as it is, I'm on the second book and I feel right now isn't the time. I think, in a way, it is much more adult of them to wait rather than rush into anything like that, and it would spoil it. The book doesn't revolve around (mainly) their relationship in physical terms, I'd say it was more mental, like trusting one another and learning about the others' strengths and weaknesses. Also the books aren't just about two teenagers hooking up, hellooo there's kind of a lot of other stuff going down ahaha
Just my opinion (:
OMG I totally agree with you. Why does everyone want the to do that??
No, they never do . . . ever in their entire lives. I've read book 3.
Yeah in the 3rd or 4th chapter. They do.
Not really. At least, if they do, it's not described.
No, they don't. But I think they might in the third.
Well if it were described then it wouldn't be more of a dystopian novel
You must not know a lot of Christians then.. All Christians except a select few I know have waited until after. And I know a LOT of Christians.
Yes they did do it and honestly it was the only part in the book worth ready with Tris dying and everything
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And to me (again, this is just my oponion from where i'm sitting), sex is a natural part of life..."
"6.2% of students had had sexual intercourse for the first time before age 13 years"
Awkward.... :l