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Sally, la reina
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Feb 06, 2009 08:14PM

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Larry, my pal, let up with the homonyms, okay? ;D


What was this thread about, now?
Limiting myself to people who are still alive and producing work:
novelists:
Elizabeth George
pianists:
Maurizio Pollini
Krystian Zimerman
Murray Perahia
Alfred Brendel
(and a few more)
Okay I have to include a few dead ones:
Arthur Rubinstein
Dinu Lipatti
actors:
Jeremy Irons
tv:
Bill Moyers
Jon Stewart
artists:
Rackstraw Downes
Martin Puryear
prosecutors:
Patrick Fitzgerald
novelists:
Elizabeth George
pianists:
Maurizio Pollini
Krystian Zimerman
Murray Perahia
Alfred Brendel
(and a few more)
Okay I have to include a few dead ones:
Arthur Rubinstein
Dinu Lipatti
actors:
Jeremy Irons
tv:
Bill Moyers
Jon Stewart
artists:
Rackstraw Downes
Martin Puryear
prosecutors:
Patrick Fitzgerald

I remain confused by it. I assumed the doping charges were true, because some of his teammates have said they saw him doping. However, I don't think he has actually ever tested positive. Also, the organization that stripped his titles was, confusingly, not the organization that awarded the titles (which would be the Tour de France). I have also read that the anti-doping org that stripped him, has a vendetta against him and is essentially a kangaroo court. So I don't know what to believe. I feel like he's lying. It just seems like he's a liar. I don't know.

They do not have the authority to take away his titles, only the International cycling federation can do that. The USADA can advise, nothing else.
The circumstantial evidence is against Lance. Numerous witnesses (most of who have been busted for doping) plus the fact that almost all the guys that have won or placed second in the tour have been busted looks bad.
Apparently (I read this in a sports column yesterday) Lance's former teammate Frankie Andreu and Frankie's wife were with Lance either before or after his cancer treatment in Indianapolis. Lance was sitting with all his doctors and his doctors asked him what drugs (what performance enhancing drugs?) he had ever been on. Frankie and his wife started to leave and Lance said, "No, you can stay." Then, according to Frankie's wife, Lance listed all the PEDs he had been on, steroids, etc. She testified to this when she was deposed at some point. Lance's response was that she had misunderstood what the doctors were asking.
So why weren't the doctors deposed? Seems like they would have taken good notes on that. Anyway, very damning. Frankie's wife concluded from this that the PEDs had caused Lance's cancer, and she said to her fiance (they were engaged at the time) "If you're doing any of those drugs, we're not getting married."
So why weren't the doctors deposed? Seems like they would have taken good notes on that. Anyway, very damning. Frankie's wife concluded from this that the PEDs had caused Lance's cancer, and she said to her fiance (they were engaged at the time) "If you're doing any of those drugs, we're not getting married."
No one, every one. I don't know. I was thinking about it as I read through y'all's lists. (Is that how you pluralize a contraction, or are you not allowed to?) The thing is, for me, I can love who does or is in something...maybe writes something, but if I hate the idea I won't go/see it/read it etc. ie. American Psycho - Christian Bale (Yeah, heids), Robin Williams when he played that creepy camera stalker guy, That movie where Colin Firth plays the gay dude. (I have no problem with gay dudes, I just really like my mind to think Colin Firth likes the chicks...chicks like me:)
Dollhouse felt like a Nikita kind of thing, which I liked. Plus I liked Buffy til the finale and Angel til they made (view spoiler) . Whatever, it was okay. I liked it at first and marathoned it, then it got weird and I lost interest. Never have finished.
Books? If I liked/loved something I'd give most things (in genre I'm interested in) a try. If I hated something you wrote...yeah, you probably lost me forever.
Dollhouse felt like a Nikita kind of thing, which I liked. Plus I liked Buffy til the finale and Angel til they made (view spoiler) . Whatever, it was okay. I liked it at first and marathoned it, then it got weird and I lost interest. Never have finished.
Books? If I liked/loved something I'd give most things (in genre I'm interested in) a try. If I hated something you wrote...yeah, you probably lost me forever.