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Molly is a mutt, but mostly an Australian Cow Dog & she not only wants/needs to herd, but does it well with no training. She's really smart about a lot of things. Our JRT's are really smart about others. They can get into & out of places or get things that would seem impossible - including trouble!

The question isn't 'does he know it', it's 'WILL he do it'?
There's been a few occasions when I said a command and didn't even get the chance to show Juneau what I meant, he just did it. Wait, Stop and Look are three I can remember off-hand.
In general, I have to show Juneau something new only once though, and he's got it. And he's capable of learning a lot of different commands.
And it's not only Juneau, it's every Malamute I've ever met that is this way. Highly intelligent and notorously stubborn.

It was funny though, because the ice was very thin, if we fell through it, it would have been a whopping 1/8 of an inch fall onto the pavement, LOL

I now see the following explanation about the dog rankings.
(I found it at the link I posted above.):
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"While this method of ordering dog intelligence is acceptable for training and working with dogs, it does not apply to the genetic intelligence which can be measured by ingenuity and understanding of common situations. Some dog breeds may be lower on the list due to their stubborn or independent nature, but this nature does not make them unintelligent or impossible to train."
Above from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Inte...
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That's what you both were pointing out.
Hmmmm, so the list of rankings is more complicated than it looks.

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/39...
the following questions are speculated on by the author, Stanley Coren:
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Do dogs really think?
Are they conscious in the same way humans are?
What is the nature of canine memory?
Can dogs communicate with us -- and, if so, how can we understand them?
Do they have feelings such as guilt, loyalty, and jealousy?
Do they experience joy and sorrow?
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Sounds interesting. I think I'll put it on my BTR list.

I had to laugh at that, because that is exactly why I mentioned it as a drawback: they can be difficult.
Joy, what does BTR mean?

It's easier than typing "To-Read Shelf" or "To-Read List".
Yes, Jackie, you told us how independent and stubborn your Juneau could be. That would make training difficult if he just didn't want to do what you wanted. I'm beginning to think that our Romeo is stubborn too. He's a bit of a fox too. Knows what he wants and when he wants it. LOL He only comes to us when he wants to. He pleases himself. That's pretty smart. (g)

I was pleased to see border Collies as #1, because they are very smart, and they have wonderful qualities. My friend AC has a beautiful one, Finn, who I adore. There's a nice picture of him in the comments section of my page. I love when she tells me stories of Finn.

I looked at the pic of Finn. I didn't know border collies were black and white. Live and learn.


I've been trying to think of the name "Shelties", Jackie. Thanks for mentioning it. My neice has a Sheltie. I wondered if they were a kind of collie. So I went to Wiki to find out. It says:
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"The Shetland Sheepdog, often known as the Sheltie, has been intentionally bred small. Shelties are ideally suited for the terrain of the Shetland Islands in Scotland. While they resemble a rough Collie in miniature, they are not a true miniature Collie, as there are many differences in appearance."
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheltie
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So I guess that answers my question. BTW, I see that their coloring can be black and white.
In fact it says:
"They have a thick double coat that can come in many different colors and patterns. There are three main colors: sable, which ranges from golden to mahogany; tri-colour, made up of black, white and tan; and blue merle, made up of grey, white, black, and tan."
I have my 6th Shetland Sheepdog (Sheltie) who looks like a Border Collie. He is tricolor. He is extremely bright but all Shelties are. I also own a Pomeranian. She is very sweet but not half as bright as Jasper who knows how to manipulate her behavior. If he wants to be petted and she is being petted he will go get a toy as he knows she wants the toy more and will take it from him which is what he wants then he will come over and get her spot to be petted. I have seen him do this several times. He also has ESP. Sometimes I have seen him react knowing that I am going to do something before I know it!! Today on The Dr's they were talking about dogs who can smell cancer and alert the person.
I have also owned German Shepherds, an English Springer spaniel, golden cocker and various assorted mutts.
I have also owned German Shepherds, an English Springer spaniel, golden cocker and various assorted mutts.

I'm not sure how smart our Maltese, Romeo, is. He likes to run and he likes to play. He also likes chewing hide-sticks. Oh, he likes to be petted while sitting in our laps. (g) He also knows how to find the most comfortable spots to sleep. :)
What were your dog's names, Alice? We've had a Spokey, a Fetchie, a jorji, and now Romeo.
Our sons' dogs are Alice and Boogaloo, Boogie for short. They also bring along a guest-dog name Cosmo who is a boxer. He resembles this dog:

I love this photo! LOL

I once dog sat a Sheltie. She was dear and would hardly leave my side; literally. I know they are bred to be protectors and herders. when I was sitting on my couch my cat was at my feet; Princess, the Sheltie, laid next to the cat and reached her paw over to pat my leg, letting me know she was there to protect me. I also had a friend who dog sat some Shelties and she complained they were super hyper. I guess even dogs of the same breed can differ. nina


I haven't seen one in a long time.
As for memories, I think you'll like the following quotes:
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"I have liked remembering almost as much as I have liked living."
-William Maxwell, editor at "The New Yorker"
"Recall it as often as you wish, a happy memory never wears out."
-Libby Fudim
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And divides our grief."
I don't know the author.
"Poetry is the art of uniting beauty with truth."
Samuel Johnson

Recently, my husband, Anthony, was looking up info on Malamutes. I did that before we got Juneau. So it was funny that he'd say something from the website and I knew it already, besides the fact of living with a Mal for 2 1/2 years. I know all his traits and they are all classic Malamute traits.


Jackie, how'd she get the name Banshee?

Yes, that's probably why, but it's such a spooky name. See the definition at: ====>
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictio...
Maybe the dog barked a lot. :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Inte...
How smart is your dog?
This information, and more, is found in the book: _The Intelligence of Dogs A Guide to the Thoughts, Emotions, and Inner Lives of Our Canine Companions_.
The brightest dog is said to be the Border Collie.
The dumbest dog is said to be the Afghan Hound.
My Maltese ranks 59th out of 78. But to me he ranks highest in cuddling. (g)