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What do you as a reader, get out of reading a Beyond Reality type of book?
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Aug 24, 2012 02:47AM

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For belonging to Beyond Reality:
1. Validation that lots of other people love books, love to read books, love to own books, and love to talk about books.
2. Validation that lots of other people have similar taste in books
For reading SF/F/Speculative Fiction
1. Entertainment and escape
2. As Jim said above, different ways of looking at the world, and (sometimes) exercise for my brain to try to understand the worlds about which I'm reading
3. A jump start to my own imagination--I am not a writer, but I love to daydream about the books I'm reading.
1. Validation that lots of other people love books, love to read books, love to own books, and love to talk about books.
2. Validation that lots of other people have similar taste in books
For reading SF/F/Speculative Fiction
1. Entertainment and escape
2. As Jim said above, different ways of looking at the world, and (sometimes) exercise for my brain to try to understand the worlds about which I'm reading
3. A jump start to my own imagination--I am not a writer, but I love to daydream about the books I'm reading.


However I do love that bit of realism, whether its from the inner struggles a character goes through which connect us to the fantasy heroes or the link of a future to the present that we know (such as the Honorverse that is supposed to be humanity's future).

I think that SF has both taken on the role of mythic (or 'fairy tale') literature as often being about morality and psychology, while much of mainstream literature in the late 20th century seemed to become increasingly narrowly focused, navel gazing and banal. It's no accident that a lot of pre-20th century social commentary literature (like Gulliver's Travels) would be considered SF if published today. Authors such as Rupert Thompson, David Mitchell and Michael Chabon are now quite happy to use SF tropes without feeling the need to deny it or distance themselves (something I've always been annoyed about with a certain great Canadian author; The Handmid's Tale and Oryx and Crake are SF, flying squid or not). I think there is a massive debt to writers such as Ursula le Guin, Kurt Vonnegut and Ray Bradbury, who consciously wrote genre books despite the disdain of many critics. (I also heartily recommend le Guin's collection of essays The Language of the Night, many of which are about this very subject).
I also third the comment about the way both fantasy and sci-fi lend themselves to exploring different viewpoints, one of the things that really any good fiction should do.
I've always thought that the mix of excitement, novelty and exploration is why fantasy (and more lately sci-fi) is so prevalent amongst children's literature, but it is one of those things that some people seem to think we ought to grow out of. I read an interview in which an author (possibly China Mieville) said that whenever he's asked "when did you start reading fantasy?" he replies "when did you stop?"

Good question!

Excellent post and I have to echo it myself. I don't really have anything to add except for maybe creativity and imagination. Where else do we get the opportunity to imagine that which does not exist and has never existed.

"Thinking is the best way to travel." Moody Blues



Not quite sure what you are trying to get at here.
What's a Beyond Reality type of book
The reason I am here is community. Most people I associate with dont read that much so this gives me an avenue to chat with people about books

The other is much more escapist - I read Fantasy for fun. So long as they don't get too formulaic and D&D (no offense to those who like that sort of thing), I really enjoy following characters through adventures in beautiful, unique settings with fantastical elements facing problems I DON'T have to deal with in everyday life. And I really enjoy strong butt-kicking female protagonists.
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I find the older you get the less you are required to use your imagination so for me reading fantasy and sci-fi allows you to create a world around you with no limits :)

But there are the special SFF books that make me think, change my ideas or how I look at the world or a topic. These are my real raison d'etre for being a reader, to open my eyes and mind. I find fiction usually more profound in doing this than non-fiction.

If I had to focus and narrow things down, I'd say I enjoy the spirit of exploratoin and adventure. Be it Sci-fi or fantasy novel, I like exploring places never before seen even if they don't really exist. I also like exploring different visions of the future or thinking inductively about how magic works and what forms it takes. It's all in the Hugh's a mad scientist excitement package.
Even though few people mention it, I also believe that a good writer, through fiction, can take a part of behing human (a part of us) and draw a clearer picture of what it's like and what we should be like. In reality, to quote Jerry Mcguire (as spoken by Tom Cruise) "Nobody ever says what they really think."
There are too many pressures that force people into image conscious writing, even when it's their goal to be "the guy" who writes it like it is to prove he's the guy who is above all of that (if you follow that, he's in it too). Through fiction, you can take a real trait, characteristic or situation and write the truth of it without offending anyone, in a way that helps us explore what it means to be human.
So there's that too.
And hell... I just like the excitement of swords, scorcery, blasters and star fighters...can't leave that out!

I love imaginative beings, the larger the variety the better. Even if you stick with the common suspects, one vampire, or fairy ,or werewolf can be completely different from another.
I find my favorite series are the ones that play on these differences the most.
The Dresden Files has 3 varieties of vampires, opposing fae, pixies, witches, wizards (yes they are different and have little to do with gender), demons, spirits, ghosts (also different), and numerous monsters.
The Hollows (Rachel Morgan) has witches, vampires, pixies, werewolves and demons which have different rules and ways from Dresden but work just as well.
The Black Dagger Brotherhood that has a whole new set of rules for Vampires, the likes of which I never saw before reading that series.
I have more to say, but just realized I have to leave for work - 3 minutes ago! :)

Interesting opinions. I just wanted to bump up for the newer members to share their opinions about the topic. Thanks.
Books mentioned in this topic
Transition (other topics)Gulliver’s Travels (other topics)
Oryx and Crake (other topics)
The Language of the Night: Essays on Fantasy and Science Fiction (other topics)
Authors mentioned in this topic
Michael Chabon (other topics)Iain Banks (other topics)
Ken McLeod (other topics)
Sheri S. Tepper (other topics)
David Mitchell (other topics)
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