Evey’s review of After (After, #1) > Likes and Comments
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Yo pensé lo mismo, viendo la clase de cosas que se atreven a publicar... Es vergonzoso y a mí realmente me enoja. ¿Qué ejemplo le están dando al público que lo consume? Bien se sabe que son pibas adolescentes, generalmente influenciables -_-' Es como que ya estamos "fabricando" generaciones ignorantes, con una literatura que cada vez se hunde más en el vocabulario pobre y las tramas predecibles. Al menos me quedo tranquila que todavía se puede encontrar algo de calidad, perdido entre el mar de clichés con tapas bonitas.
Mics *amante de los spoilers* wrote: "Si, cada vez es peor se nota que solo publican cualquier cosa con tal de ganar plata. ¿Adonde vamos a parar?"
Fanfics de fanfics. De fanfics. *plop*
Que yo me acuerde esa frase no sale como de After. No se si en el libro si pero en Wattpad a cada rato se compara con W.H. y esa frase es referente a W.H.
Freja wrote: "Que yo me acuerde esa frase no sale como de After. No se si en el libro si pero en Wattpad a cada rato se compara con W.H. y esa frase es referente a W.H."
Esa frase es de Wuthering Heights, pero salía como quote de este libro en el apartado de quotes. Aparentemente, ya la sacaron. Por suerte.
Mahmuda wrote: "In the book, they recognize that it's a quote from Wuthering Heights, it's not Anna Todd's fault that it's listed as a quote from After. So..
And another thing: This book is for entertainment. A g..."
Nowhere did I say she claimed it to be her own, and the only thing I stated is that in goodreads it appeared as a quote from this book. Nowhere did I mention the author regarding that either, nor did I blame her for the fact someone decided to put that quote as a quote from After. Period.
About the rest, I stated no opinion about the future of classics whatsoever. The only thing I did state is that it's atrocious that this piece uses many quotes from classics when it's just a tale of abusive relationships. Plus, the fact that is a book "for entertainment" makes it any better because the issues remain the same and the message being send to young girls is the same: it's okay to be psychologically abused and manipulated in the name of "love". I don't care about Anna Todd nor about her literary tastes. I don't care about her and that's why I'm not talking about her, but her book, which is what reviews are for. Classics will remain classics, but that doesn't quit that modern literature is going downhill and it's more common to find bad books than good ones, because editorial houses only care about making tons of money in the fastest way possible. And what do they do then? Sell poor quality books that follow mass tastes, which stories have been previously told in a better way and have been proved to be successful.
Mahmuda wrote: "Evey wrote: "Mahmuda wrote: "In the book, they recognize that it's a quote from Wuthering Heights, it's not Anna Todd's fault that it's listed as a quote from After. So..
And another thing: This b..."
Again, it's about NOWADAYS LITERATURE. I'm not talking about classics there, but the books that are being published nowadays and what will be left of them in future generations. I'm not talking about classics that are currently classics, and will keep being so in the future.
If you believe it's not targeted to that audience, I'm sorry to tell you that it's for Young Adults/New Adults. Even, this is being marketed as a YA book for the spanish-speaking readers. And the fact that many of its readers are younger than eighteen must say something. Also, the fact that it has millions of reads doesn't mean the book is any good. Popularity it's not a synonym of quality (and, by the way, I know how Wattpad works and having a billion reads doesn't mean you have a billion readers... One click in the story, in any chapter = one read. If I reload the page, it counts as another read. Simple as that.)
Besides, being a reader yourself doesn't mean knowing how the industry works, not really. I'm a former editing student and I'm getting my degree in a couple of months after my internship, so I do know what I'm talking about. It's what I'm studying, and the world I'm getting into now that I'm in an editorial project to become a professional publisher. I met many editors, from little editorial houses to people that worked for Planeta and other big groups. I got to know how the industry works, from the inside and not just the finished products.
About storyline, I'm not talking about what could've inspired this book, but the fact that huge editorial houses publish stories that have quite similar plots due to said plots already proved to be succesful and widely liked by a certain public. Basically, it's a proccess of rinse & repeat.
About the message, I beg to differ. I read parts of it, several quotes and many other reviews of people that actually read this "book", and not only it was written terribly but the characters itself are loathsome. Harry/Harden/Hardin is an abusive a**hole, Tessa is spineless and does whatever she's told to. This ain't controversial material in a way of "this relationship isn't what you should aspire to" but the kind of material that screams "this is the love life you want". And that's undeniable considering the huge amount of girls I've seen that claimed to want a relationship like Hessa.
You liked this book? Great for you! Got a message out of it? Awesome! You don't want a relationship like Hessa's? I'm quite relieved. You may as well write your very own review about it if you still didn't do so. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion and mine won't change, no matter how many comments you leave defending After. Again, if you want to do so, that's what reviews are for. Write your own instead of commenting in each negative review you find.
@Cole - I'm asking myself the same. How the hell did this happen? At least in Argentina, the book is not being that much succesful. Even, I've heard of book sellers complaining about the fact that they didn't know what to do with the copies they had.
Mics *amante de los spoilers* wrote: "My Gosh. Este libro sigue perpetuando la mierda esa de que esta bien estar en una relación abusiva. No me jodas. Esta mierda junto con Twlight, BD, 50 shades y otras porquerías del estilo no hacen ..."
Twilight es un bebé de pecho con hadas y glitter (?) Al menos el glitter está, trolololol xD A poco tengo que soportar en mi "reseña" (así con comillas, eh) me vengan a decir que es un buen libro. Omaigawd.
PD: deberías leer Stalk Me, bwahahahaha. Ese libro por dios... Tan malo que lo leía en voz alta con la vocecita de la prota y con una amiga nos moríamos de risa.
Mahmuda wrote: "Evey wrote: "Mahmuda wrote: "Evey wrote: "Mahmuda wrote: "In the book, they recognize that it's a quote from Wuthering Heights, it's not Anna Todd's fault that it's listed as a quote from After. So..."
First, I can do whatever I want as a reader. I can write a review stating my opinion without reading a book if I want to. As I said, EVERYBODY IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN OPINION. Which aparently you don't get, because you're still discussing while I politely asked you to go to your own review section instead of filling up mine with comments against whatever I said, without even getting to understand what I say first.
And you know what? I'm defending my opinion ON MY OWN REVIEW. I'm not going to other people's reviews to defend it, as you are doing. And, particularly, you're invading negative reviews to state your point of view, which you can clearly do in your own profile instead. See the difference? Besides, did I attack the author? No, I did not. I'm reviewing a book, not the author itself, even though I do not support her and I do believe what she's doing is unethical. If I read or not the book, THAT'S MY DECISION. I can do whatever I well damn please, as far as I know. I don't need to read a 600-pages book to form my opinion. Had enough with the re-caps I read, the first chapter and other reviews. An editor doesn't even need that much to decide if a book is worth reading or not, may I tell you. With a synopsis and a review from a professional reader is more than enough.
And, to finish this pointless drivel you're driving me into, being "interested in publishing" is not the same than being a former student about to get an Editing degree. Just saying. I already had to plan editorial projects, have contact with editorials/editors and other professionals in the editing world. And, by the way, I did assume nothing about you. I stated that "being a reader yourself doesn't mean knowing about the industry of publishing" in a general way, not a particular one.
Please, avoid commenting again. It's ridiculous, as you offer no points in why this book is good and why should I give it a chance more than "it's purely for entertainment" and "millions of people read it and loved it". Both are really, really bad reasons and not objective at all.
@Mics: lo que tengo que soportar... Mínimamente que me dieran argumentos válidos. Algo <.<
Al menos habló con propiedad y no como una fangirl con ataque de rabia D: Algo es algo.
Yo a veces las leo y la verdad ni me mosqueo :P Solo se me pasa preguntarme cómo es que no le gustó y sigo adelante con mi vida. Total, les guste o no a los demás, a mí me va a seguir gustando.
A veces te hacen ver cosas que no viste owo Pero en la mayoría de los casos mi opinión no cambia.
En cualquier momento las saco a la venta, pintadas a mano por mí (?)
Thank you very much, Zia! I'm glad you like it :D
*leyendo los comentarios* Dios que intensa puede ser la gente cuando no se les da la razón. .. esta moda de los novios psicópatas y relaciones abusivas disfrazadas de amor ya me tienen harta. Realmente no entiendo toda esa bullshit!!
Yo menos. Y me asusta porque estoy por recibirme de editora este año D: Debe ser que mi visión es demasiado romántica y todavía creo que el valor cultural es más importante que el comercial :c
Tsunami wrote: "Shaya wrote: "Honestly if you read the book. Tessa and Harry love Wuthering Heights. Actually in the book they recognize that quote. So, no Anna did not STEAL that from Emily. She was recognizing ..."
Thank you so much for dealing with that! I don't really get why they comment without checking their "facts" first. Geeeez.
A la pareja protagónica les gusta Cumbres Borrascosas? jajaja uff que raro, eso nunca lo había leído en otra parte y MENOS en Twilight!
Tsunami wrote: "Evey wrote: "Thank you so much for dealing with that! I don't really get why they comment without checking their "facts" first. Geeeez."
Well, she should be thankful someone in this forum could be..."
Oh, my first sock puppet attack. I need to take pictures!
@Monkique: SO ORIGINAL. Hay quotes por aquí y por allá de varios libros en After, como si eso fuere a otorgarle cierto tipo de prestigio. Ajam.
ETA: I see that the quote was apparently credited in the story, (not going to read far enough to find out) but still, that is fucking blasphemy. Is nothing sacred anymore? I am DISGUSTED. I seriously want to barf that she is getting credit for Emily Bronte's famous line.
Carolyn wrote: "ETA: I see that the quote was apparently credited in the story, (not going to read far enough to find out) but still, that is fucking blasphemy. Is nothing sacred anymore? I am DISGUSTED. I serious..."
I don't know for sure, but anyway I was just referring to the Goodreads quotes (so I'm not blaming her, yup). Fortunately, the last time I checked it was removed from After's quotes! But, seriously, who the hell added it at first? :/
I saw it yesterday as attributed to Anna Todd. Ummm no.
Eww. EWWWWWWWWWW. Emily should be resurrected somehow and then kick some asses.
honestly, I love this trilogy. And I agree with the whole feminism within the stories about how abusive and make ip sex should not be permitted and women should not strive for this love. especially with the society in this generation. But truthfully this story is deeper then sex and arguments. And actually, the Wuthering Heights quote is meaningful to the story. Yes, women shouldn't step down and submit to men like dogs and do everything they say but this story foes have an interesting storyline. and if you didn't like it then its not the authors fault its nobody's, you just didn't like it and there is no explanation for that. After isn't for everyone. 50 shades isn't for everyone. The hunger games, harry potter, percy jackson, the mortal instruments, lola and the boy next door, twilight, endless love, the notebook, are not for eveyone but you can't blame it on the writing style, the endless no point plot, the bad grammar, etc. I didn't enjoy the notebook or many other books but I'm not going to endure hate on the author when the point of the matter is that the book isn't for everyone. So I'm sorty that you think it deserves 1 star and its a disgrace to literature and disowns women. And I'm sorry that I enjoyed the book, and the plot and the endless fighting and the fact that I love the book and it changed me, on the soul reason that Anna Todd took classics and worked them into a modernized version of her own.
Bri wrote: "honestly, I love this trilogy. And I agree with the whole feminism within the stories about how abusive and make ip sex should not be permitted and women should not strive for this love. especiall..."
—I have not rated the book.
—In no place of my review did I stated I hate its author.
—I can blame the horrible writing and the nonsense of the plot for not liking it, because those are the reasons why I don't like it. Not because "it's not for everybody." I don't like this book because it promotes an abusive relationship as a HEALTHY relationship. And, of course, I can blame the author for it because she is the one promoting it with all the "Hessa" merchandise and tweets and blah, blah, blah.
—Again, if someone doesn't like a book, THERE IS AN EXPLANATION other than "eh, it wasn't for me." Your argument is really weak if that's the only reason you can find for someone not liking any written piece.
—You loved the book? Great, go write your own review explaining why you liked it that much (instead of telling people they're "just insane to give a 1 star. that's crazy." Yes, I'm quoting your review). Go fangirl in positive reviews, maybe? But don't come around my review to try to diminish my statements with counterarguments that are laughably basic.
—And last but not least, before coming around to defend this piece of trash, learn some proper grammar.
Tsunami wrote: "re·view
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.write a critical appraisal of (a book, pl..."
Thank you for existing.
Tsunami wrote: "Evey wrote: "Tsunami wrote: "re·view
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.write a cri..."
Just checked it and I'm laughing like a "stupid, dumb bitch", LOL xD
Mics, como diría una canción que detesto, "la gente está muy loca" *inserte el punchi-punchi de la música electrónica*
Es que con la literatura está pasando casi lo mismo que con la música :/ y venden más los que son más "triviales". La humanidad llegó a su fin? XD
Más bien, la inteligencia de la humanidad xD
Evey wrote: "Más bien, la inteligencia de la humanidad xD"
Ahora que lo dices, pues sí :S
Suddenly I pop up :D
Even if I don't share your opinion, I understand your opinion and you wrote a good review.
in Germany, the book is sold as erotic novel, so not YA-like, and as a erotic novel I kinda enjoyed the book, and I dont think it romaticides abusive relationship, but okay, your review, your opinion. :)
I'm going to read this book just to spot this quote and write a documented bad review.
Lexie wrote: "I'm going to read this book just to spot this quote and write a documented bad interview."
I had the awful idea to read it so I can make a HUGE review with a hundred quotes to clearly show why this supports and promotes and abusive relationship... But I'm lazy, so I'll probably do it only if I find a buddy to read it along with, lol.
Totally agree. I just found out that it's a one direction fan fiction. I might have to threw up in the very next two minutes. I don't even know if I might laugh or cry. Maybe cry. Very bad.
I just finished reading Easy and I'm just in the mood to report promotes, abusive relationship and stuff so I'm going to do the dirt work.
( I still have to digest the fact that this author used my favourite quote from my favorite book and made it hers.
Really, Emily Brontë? Are you kiddin'? It seems like a suicide to me)
Lexie wrote: "Totally agree. I just found out that it's a one direction fan fiction. I may have to threw up in the very next two minutes. I don't even know if I may laugh or cry. Maybe cry. Very bad.
I just fin..."
It uses the very same tropes that many other NA books use... And, of course, the main characters adore classic books (the same two or three titles that are mentioned in many other stories). And they rip 'em apart by comparing said titles with the monstruosity of this book ;-;
We'll end up reading always the same erotic story in million different ways. Plus, the main character will pretend to be a very classic lover.
I'm not really sure I'm ready for this type of horror, I'm not being able to exit from my room.
I think I'm just going to bar myself at home:)
I'm not ready for it either, but I guess I need to get ready to fight such atrocity with reviews, lol.
Evey wrote: "Lexie wrote: "I'm going to read this book just to spot this quote and write a documented bad interview."
I had the awful idea to read it so I can make a HUGE review with a hundred quotes to clearl..."
It's not worth your time honestly. I read the fanfiction and a few of the chapters of the published book. The differences? The names. And dear fuck is it an abusive relationship. I cried when I found out it was being published. Cried because badly written drivel will be published but good stuff written by non white people won't get published and decent marketing unless the author themselves self publishes and does their promoting of their work.
It's badly written. It's not a good story. And it's not worth anyone's time reading this crap.
That's why I finally decided to avoid it like the plague! I have tons of books to read which I'm sure I'll enjoy a hundred times more than this one, even if said books are bad. After enrages me D:
OH MY GOD that's exactly what I've been thinking during the reading of this joke, HEY FUCKTARDS THIS IS A QUOTE FROM THE FUCKING WUTHERING HEIGHTS, FOR FUCK'S SAKE.
There, this "book" made me become vulgar
I don't know if the book says it because I haven't read it but in the fan fiction in Wattpad it is CLEARLY SAID WHERE THE QUOTE COMES FROM. I don't know what's your problem - most of nowadays writers try to imitate or even copy the plot or phrases from classical books. Anna is just one of hundreds to do this but she admits it in Wattpad. It's not like she's illegally copying it! -_-
Dimena wrote: "I don't know if the book says it because I haven't read it but in the fan fiction in Wattpad it is CLEARLY SAID WHERE THE QUOTE COMES FROM. I don't know what's your problem - most of nowadays write..."
I don't know what's your problem with people stating their opinion. I also don't know why you aren't able to read the whole thing, where I state IT'S NOT Todd's fault that this quote appears as a quote from After.
Also... "Most of nowadays writers try to imitate or even copy the plot or phrases from classical books." Really? REALLY? Great fallacy over there.
Tsunami wrote: "Several "trying to be writers" nowadays profit from fanfiction, which is essentially plagiarism. I wonder what's our problem? If so many can get away with it, and added bonus, harvest a large fanba..."
I think I love you. Why all the counterarguments have to be fallacies? Can't they defend the book with solid, logic arguments at least?
Evey, I'm sorry I can't give proper arguments about my opinion and sorry for the not perfect English but I'm 16 I live in Bulgaria and I am really TRYING to learn English as well as you do but it's not that simple, you know. And sorry if my comment looked like I'm insulting you or something, I didn't mean it. Nothing personal ;) I just read the first couple lines and got irritated a bit :D
Tsunami wrote: "I don't think you were nearly as rude and inflammatory as others who visited this thread to defend the book, Dimena. If you take a cursory glance at the other comments, you'll see the reason for Ev..."
It's commonly used in several groups I'm in (groups for Wattpad writers, may I add). If only someone gave me money each time I read that kind of arguments...
@Dimena: I didn't even criticize your English skills, so I don't know why you felt the need to defend yourself.
This is how books are published nowadays: "Oh! Your book is so freakin sht and it has million reads! LET'S PUBLISH IT!" QUANTITY OVER QUALITY.
Losing my faith over the type of Literature nowadays.
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Yo pensé lo mismo, viendo la clase de cosas que se atreven a publicar... Es vergonzoso y a mí realmente me enoja. ¿Qué ejemplo le están dando al público que lo consume? Bien se sabe que son pibas adolescentes, generalmente influenciables -_-' Es como que ya estamos "fabricando" generaciones ignorantes, con una literatura que cada vez se hunde más en el vocabulario pobre y las tramas predecibles. Al menos me quedo tranquila que todavía se puede encontrar algo de calidad, perdido entre el mar de clichés con tapas bonitas.
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Mics *amante de los spoilers* wrote: "Si, cada vez es peor se nota que solo publican cualquier cosa con tal de ganar plata. ¿Adonde vamos a parar?"Fanfics de fanfics. De fanfics. *plop*
Que yo me acuerde esa frase no sale como de After. No se si en el libro si pero en Wattpad a cada rato se compara con W.H. y esa frase es referente a W.H.
Freja wrote: "Que yo me acuerde esa frase no sale como de After. No se si en el libro si pero en Wattpad a cada rato se compara con W.H. y esa frase es referente a W.H."Esa frase es de Wuthering Heights, pero salía como quote de este libro en el apartado de quotes. Aparentemente, ya la sacaron. Por suerte.
Mahmuda wrote: "In the book, they recognize that it's a quote from Wuthering Heights, it's not Anna Todd's fault that it's listed as a quote from After. So..And another thing: This book is for entertainment. A g..."
Nowhere did I say she claimed it to be her own, and the only thing I stated is that in goodreads it appeared as a quote from this book. Nowhere did I mention the author regarding that either, nor did I blame her for the fact someone decided to put that quote as a quote from After. Period.
About the rest, I stated no opinion about the future of classics whatsoever. The only thing I did state is that it's atrocious that this piece uses many quotes from classics when it's just a tale of abusive relationships. Plus, the fact that is a book "for entertainment" makes it any better because the issues remain the same and the message being send to young girls is the same: it's okay to be psychologically abused and manipulated in the name of "love". I don't care about Anna Todd nor about her literary tastes. I don't care about her and that's why I'm not talking about her, but her book, which is what reviews are for. Classics will remain classics, but that doesn't quit that modern literature is going downhill and it's more common to find bad books than good ones, because editorial houses only care about making tons of money in the fastest way possible. And what do they do then? Sell poor quality books that follow mass tastes, which stories have been previously told in a better way and have been proved to be successful.
Mahmuda wrote: "Evey wrote: "Mahmuda wrote: "In the book, they recognize that it's a quote from Wuthering Heights, it's not Anna Todd's fault that it's listed as a quote from After. So..And another thing: This b..."
Again, it's about NOWADAYS LITERATURE. I'm not talking about classics there, but the books that are being published nowadays and what will be left of them in future generations. I'm not talking about classics that are currently classics, and will keep being so in the future.
If you believe it's not targeted to that audience, I'm sorry to tell you that it's for Young Adults/New Adults. Even, this is being marketed as a YA book for the spanish-speaking readers. And the fact that many of its readers are younger than eighteen must say something. Also, the fact that it has millions of reads doesn't mean the book is any good. Popularity it's not a synonym of quality (and, by the way, I know how Wattpad works and having a billion reads doesn't mean you have a billion readers... One click in the story, in any chapter = one read. If I reload the page, it counts as another read. Simple as that.)
Besides, being a reader yourself doesn't mean knowing how the industry works, not really. I'm a former editing student and I'm getting my degree in a couple of months after my internship, so I do know what I'm talking about. It's what I'm studying, and the world I'm getting into now that I'm in an editorial project to become a professional publisher. I met many editors, from little editorial houses to people that worked for Planeta and other big groups. I got to know how the industry works, from the inside and not just the finished products.
About storyline, I'm not talking about what could've inspired this book, but the fact that huge editorial houses publish stories that have quite similar plots due to said plots already proved to be succesful and widely liked by a certain public. Basically, it's a proccess of rinse & repeat.
About the message, I beg to differ. I read parts of it, several quotes and many other reviews of people that actually read this "book", and not only it was written terribly but the characters itself are loathsome. Harry/Harden/Hardin is an abusive a**hole, Tessa is spineless and does whatever she's told to. This ain't controversial material in a way of "this relationship isn't what you should aspire to" but the kind of material that screams "this is the love life you want". And that's undeniable considering the huge amount of girls I've seen that claimed to want a relationship like Hessa.
You liked this book? Great for you! Got a message out of it? Awesome! You don't want a relationship like Hessa's? I'm quite relieved. You may as well write your very own review about it if you still didn't do so. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion and mine won't change, no matter how many comments you leave defending After. Again, if you want to do so, that's what reviews are for. Write your own instead of commenting in each negative review you find.
@Cole - I'm asking myself the same. How the hell did this happen? At least in Argentina, the book is not being that much succesful. Even, I've heard of book sellers complaining about the fact that they didn't know what to do with the copies they had.
Mics *amante de los spoilers* wrote: "My Gosh. Este libro sigue perpetuando la mierda esa de que esta bien estar en una relación abusiva. No me jodas. Esta mierda junto con Twlight, BD, 50 shades y otras porquerías del estilo no hacen ..."Twilight es un bebé de pecho con hadas y glitter (?) Al menos el glitter está, trolololol xD A poco tengo que soportar en mi "reseña" (así con comillas, eh) me vengan a decir que es un buen libro. Omaigawd.
PD: deberías leer Stalk Me, bwahahahaha. Ese libro por dios... Tan malo que lo leía en voz alta con la vocecita de la prota y con una amiga nos moríamos de risa.
Mahmuda wrote: "Evey wrote: "Mahmuda wrote: "Evey wrote: "Mahmuda wrote: "In the book, they recognize that it's a quote from Wuthering Heights, it's not Anna Todd's fault that it's listed as a quote from After. So..."First, I can do whatever I want as a reader. I can write a review stating my opinion without reading a book if I want to. As I said, EVERYBODY IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN OPINION. Which aparently you don't get, because you're still discussing while I politely asked you to go to your own review section instead of filling up mine with comments against whatever I said, without even getting to understand what I say first.
And you know what? I'm defending my opinion ON MY OWN REVIEW. I'm not going to other people's reviews to defend it, as you are doing. And, particularly, you're invading negative reviews to state your point of view, which you can clearly do in your own profile instead. See the difference? Besides, did I attack the author? No, I did not. I'm reviewing a book, not the author itself, even though I do not support her and I do believe what she's doing is unethical. If I read or not the book, THAT'S MY DECISION. I can do whatever I well damn please, as far as I know. I don't need to read a 600-pages book to form my opinion. Had enough with the re-caps I read, the first chapter and other reviews. An editor doesn't even need that much to decide if a book is worth reading or not, may I tell you. With a synopsis and a review from a professional reader is more than enough.
And, to finish this pointless drivel you're driving me into, being "interested in publishing" is not the same than being a former student about to get an Editing degree. Just saying. I already had to plan editorial projects, have contact with editorials/editors and other professionals in the editing world. And, by the way, I did assume nothing about you. I stated that "being a reader yourself doesn't mean knowing about the industry of publishing" in a general way, not a particular one.
Please, avoid commenting again. It's ridiculous, as you offer no points in why this book is good and why should I give it a chance more than "it's purely for entertainment" and "millions of people read it and loved it". Both are really, really bad reasons and not objective at all.
@Mics: lo que tengo que soportar... Mínimamente que me dieran argumentos válidos. Algo <.<
Al menos habló con propiedad y no como una fangirl con ataque de rabia D: Algo es algo.
Yo a veces las leo y la verdad ni me mosqueo :P Solo se me pasa preguntarme cómo es que no le gustó y sigo adelante con mi vida. Total, les guste o no a los demás, a mí me va a seguir gustando.
A veces te hacen ver cosas que no viste owo Pero en la mayoría de los casos mi opinión no cambia.
En cualquier momento las saco a la venta, pintadas a mano por mí (?)
Thank you very much, Zia! I'm glad you like it :D
*leyendo los comentarios* Dios que intensa puede ser la gente cuando no se les da la razón. .. esta moda de los novios psicópatas y relaciones abusivas disfrazadas de amor ya me tienen harta. Realmente no entiendo toda esa bullshit!!
Yo menos. Y me asusta porque estoy por recibirme de editora este año D: Debe ser que mi visión es demasiado romántica y todavía creo que el valor cultural es más importante que el comercial :c
Tsunami wrote: "Shaya wrote: "Honestly if you read the book. Tessa and Harry love Wuthering Heights. Actually in the book they recognize that quote. So, no Anna did not STEAL that from Emily. She was recognizing ..."Thank you so much for dealing with that! I don't really get why they comment without checking their "facts" first. Geeeez.
A la pareja protagónica les gusta Cumbres Borrascosas? jajaja uff que raro, eso nunca lo había leído en otra parte y MENOS en Twilight!
Tsunami wrote: "Evey wrote: "Thank you so much for dealing with that! I don't really get why they comment without checking their "facts" first. Geeeez."Well, she should be thankful someone in this forum could be..."
Oh, my first sock puppet attack. I need to take pictures!
@Monkique: SO ORIGINAL. Hay quotes por aquí y por allá de varios libros en After, como si eso fuere a otorgarle cierto tipo de prestigio. Ajam.
ETA: I see that the quote was apparently credited in the story, (not going to read far enough to find out) but still, that is fucking blasphemy. Is nothing sacred anymore? I am DISGUSTED. I seriously want to barf that she is getting credit for Emily Bronte's famous line.
Carolyn wrote: "ETA: I see that the quote was apparently credited in the story, (not going to read far enough to find out) but still, that is fucking blasphemy. Is nothing sacred anymore? I am DISGUSTED. I serious..."I don't know for sure, but anyway I was just referring to the Goodreads quotes (so I'm not blaming her, yup). Fortunately, the last time I checked it was removed from After's quotes! But, seriously, who the hell added it at first? :/
I saw it yesterday as attributed to Anna Todd. Ummm no.
Eww. EWWWWWWWWWW. Emily should be resurrected somehow and then kick some asses.
honestly, I love this trilogy. And I agree with the whole feminism within the stories about how abusive and make ip sex should not be permitted and women should not strive for this love. especially with the society in this generation. But truthfully this story is deeper then sex and arguments. And actually, the Wuthering Heights quote is meaningful to the story. Yes, women shouldn't step down and submit to men like dogs and do everything they say but this story foes have an interesting storyline. and if you didn't like it then its not the authors fault its nobody's, you just didn't like it and there is no explanation for that. After isn't for everyone. 50 shades isn't for everyone. The hunger games, harry potter, percy jackson, the mortal instruments, lola and the boy next door, twilight, endless love, the notebook, are not for eveyone but you can't blame it on the writing style, the endless no point plot, the bad grammar, etc. I didn't enjoy the notebook or many other books but I'm not going to endure hate on the author when the point of the matter is that the book isn't for everyone. So I'm sorty that you think it deserves 1 star and its a disgrace to literature and disowns women. And I'm sorry that I enjoyed the book, and the plot and the endless fighting and the fact that I love the book and it changed me, on the soul reason that Anna Todd took classics and worked them into a modernized version of her own.
Bri wrote: "honestly, I love this trilogy. And I agree with the whole feminism within the stories about how abusive and make ip sex should not be permitted and women should not strive for this love. especiall..."—I have not rated the book.
—In no place of my review did I stated I hate its author.
—I can blame the horrible writing and the nonsense of the plot for not liking it, because those are the reasons why I don't like it. Not because "it's not for everybody." I don't like this book because it promotes an abusive relationship as a HEALTHY relationship. And, of course, I can blame the author for it because she is the one promoting it with all the "Hessa" merchandise and tweets and blah, blah, blah.
—Again, if someone doesn't like a book, THERE IS AN EXPLANATION other than "eh, it wasn't for me." Your argument is really weak if that's the only reason you can find for someone not liking any written piece.
—You loved the book? Great, go write your own review explaining why you liked it that much (instead of telling people they're "just insane to give a 1 star. that's crazy." Yes, I'm quoting your review). Go fangirl in positive reviews, maybe? But don't come around my review to try to diminish my statements with counterarguments that are laughably basic.
—And last but not least, before coming around to defend this piece of trash, learn some proper grammar.
Tsunami wrote: "re·viewrəˈvyo͞o/
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verb: review; 3rd person present: reviews; past tense: reviewed; past participle: reviewed; gerund or present participle: reviewing
.write a critical appraisal of (a book, pl..."
Thank you for existing.
Tsunami wrote: "Evey wrote: "Tsunami wrote: "re·viewrəˈvyo͞o/
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.write a cri..."
Just checked it and I'm laughing like a "stupid, dumb bitch", LOL xD
Mics, como diría una canción que detesto, "la gente está muy loca" *inserte el punchi-punchi de la música electrónica*
Es que con la literatura está pasando casi lo mismo que con la música :/ y venden más los que son más "triviales". La humanidad llegó a su fin? XD
Más bien, la inteligencia de la humanidad xD
Evey wrote: "Más bien, la inteligencia de la humanidad xD"Ahora que lo dices, pues sí :S
Suddenly I pop up :D Even if I don't share your opinion, I understand your opinion and you wrote a good review.
in Germany, the book is sold as erotic novel, so not YA-like, and as a erotic novel I kinda enjoyed the book, and I dont think it romaticides abusive relationship, but okay, your review, your opinion. :)
I'm going to read this book just to spot this quote and write a documented bad review.
Lexie wrote: "I'm going to read this book just to spot this quote and write a documented bad interview."I had the awful idea to read it so I can make a HUGE review with a hundred quotes to clearly show why this supports and promotes and abusive relationship... But I'm lazy, so I'll probably do it only if I find a buddy to read it along with, lol.
Totally agree. I just found out that it's a one direction fan fiction. I might have to threw up in the very next two minutes. I don't even know if I might laugh or cry. Maybe cry. Very bad. I just finished reading Easy and I'm just in the mood to report promotes, abusive relationship and stuff so I'm going to do the dirt work.
( I still have to digest the fact that this author used my favourite quote from my favorite book and made it hers.
Really, Emily Brontë? Are you kiddin'? It seems like a suicide to me)
Lexie wrote: "Totally agree. I just found out that it's a one direction fan fiction. I may have to threw up in the very next two minutes. I don't even know if I may laugh or cry. Maybe cry. Very bad. I just fin..."
It uses the very same tropes that many other NA books use... And, of course, the main characters adore classic books (the same two or three titles that are mentioned in many other stories). And they rip 'em apart by comparing said titles with the monstruosity of this book ;-;
The new age of horror:
Shallow books who's got appealing covers and everybody loves because there's ton of sex inside them.
We'll end up reading always the same erotic story in million different ways. Plus, the main character will pretend to be a very classic lover.
I'm not really sure I'm ready for this type of horror, I'm not being able to exit from my room.
I think I'm just going to bar myself at home:)
I'm not ready for it either, but I guess I need to get ready to fight such atrocity with reviews, lol.
Evey wrote: "Lexie wrote: "I'm going to read this book just to spot this quote and write a documented bad interview."I had the awful idea to read it so I can make a HUGE review with a hundred quotes to clearl..."
It's not worth your time honestly. I read the fanfiction and a few of the chapters of the published book. The differences? The names. And dear fuck is it an abusive relationship. I cried when I found out it was being published. Cried because badly written drivel will be published but good stuff written by non white people won't get published and decent marketing unless the author themselves self publishes and does their promoting of their work.
It's badly written. It's not a good story. And it's not worth anyone's time reading this crap.
That's why I finally decided to avoid it like the plague! I have tons of books to read which I'm sure I'll enjoy a hundred times more than this one, even if said books are bad. After enrages me D:
OH MY GOD that's exactly what I've been thinking during the reading of this joke, HEY FUCKTARDS THIS IS A QUOTE FROM THE FUCKING WUTHERING HEIGHTS, FOR FUCK'S SAKE.There, this "book" made me become vulgar
I don't know if the book says it because I haven't read it but in the fan fiction in Wattpad it is CLEARLY SAID WHERE THE QUOTE COMES FROM. I don't know what's your problem - most of nowadays writers try to imitate or even copy the plot or phrases from classical books. Anna is just one of hundreds to do this but she admits it in Wattpad. It's not like she's illegally copying it! -_-
Dimena wrote: "I don't know if the book says it because I haven't read it but in the fan fiction in Wattpad it is CLEARLY SAID WHERE THE QUOTE COMES FROM. I don't know what's your problem - most of nowadays write..."I don't know what's your problem with people stating their opinion. I also don't know why you aren't able to read the whole thing, where I state IT'S NOT Todd's fault that this quote appears as a quote from After.
Also... "Most of nowadays writers try to imitate or even copy the plot or phrases from classical books." Really? REALLY? Great fallacy over there.
Tsunami wrote: "Several "trying to be writers" nowadays profit from fanfiction, which is essentially plagiarism. I wonder what's our problem? If so many can get away with it, and added bonus, harvest a large fanba..."I think I love you. Why all the counterarguments have to be fallacies? Can't they defend the book with solid, logic arguments at least?
Evey, I'm sorry I can't give proper arguments about my opinion and sorry for the not perfect English but I'm 16 I live in Bulgaria and I am really TRYING to learn English as well as you do but it's not that simple, you know. And sorry if my comment looked like I'm insulting you or something, I didn't mean it. Nothing personal ;) I just read the first couple lines and got irritated a bit :D
Tsunami wrote: "I don't think you were nearly as rude and inflammatory as others who visited this thread to defend the book, Dimena. If you take a cursory glance at the other comments, you'll see the reason for Ev..."It's commonly used in several groups I'm in (groups for Wattpad writers, may I add). If only someone gave me money each time I read that kind of arguments...
@Dimena: I didn't even criticize your English skills, so I don't know why you felt the need to defend yourself.
This is how books are published nowadays: "Oh! Your book is so freakin sht and it has million reads! LET'S PUBLISH IT!" QUANTITY OVER QUALITY.Losing my faith over the type of Literature nowadays.
