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asiya | アセヤ (free palestine) wrote: "🤣🤣🤣"

Watcha laughing at

bella ♡ ♡ wrote: "guys tbh let’s remember that palestine attacked israel first 😬😬 (i’m neutral but i’m just stating the facts)"

erm this started 76 years ago not october 7th

okay what the hell is going on?? This conversation js got easily heated bc there's so many people and misunderstandings.

Moon☽༊ ‧˚ {Free Palestine} wrote: "bella ♡ ♡ wrote: "guys tbh let’s remember that palestine attacked israel first 😬😬 (i’m neutral but i’m just stating the facts)"

erm this started 76 years ago not october 7th"

realllll

Moon☽༊ ‧˚ {Free Palestine} wrote: "okay what the hell is going on?? This conversation js got easily heated bc there's so many people and misunderstandings."

I'm reading everything and I'm so confused rn out of all the conversations I've had

Moon☽༊ ‧˚ {Free Palestine} wrote: "okay what the hell is going on?? This conversation js got easily heated bc there's so many people and misunderstandings."

its because there are many people with different beliefs who cant settle with some one believing a different thing than them

Nour (semi-hiatus ~ FREE PALESTINE) wrote: "What's been going on (ty niyya)

Okay, so people call this a war but this isn't a war AT ALL. In 1917, when the British occupied Palestine, they made the Balfour Declaration, which says that they w..."

Okay, thank you SO much Nour! I've been wanting to mention all of this but.. idk, I don't really have an excuse but I'm SO HAPPY someone did it!!

AND ALSO THERE ARE THE MOST VOTES FOR PALESTINE!!! 81!! so far

I’m 100% pro palestine, that’s all I know

🫐ava 🫐 wrote: "Moon☽༊ ‧˚ {Free Palestine} wrote: "okay what the hell is going on?? This conversation js got easily heated bc there's so many people and misunderstandings."

its because there are many people with ..."

can we js go to the topic in this group called middle ground: let's talk?😭

What group is this it wont tell me

🫐ava 🫐 wrote: "What group is this it wont tell me"

https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/...

you can leave later or sm if u want but the discussion is more likely to not get heated bc that's an instant time out since it's a middle ground and any kind of disrespected or attack-like comments will not be tolerated

Moon☽༊ ‧˚ {Free Palestine} wrote: "🫐ava 🫐 wrote: "What group is this it wont tell me"

https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/...

you can leave later or sm if u want but the discussion is more ..."

^^

Moon☽༊ ‧˚ {Free Palestine} wrote: "🫐ava 🫐 wrote: "What group is this it wont tell me"

https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/...

you can leave later or sm if u want but the discussion is more ..."
Okay thanks!

I also want to add a couple things that make me so mad. (That involves Israel's alliance with America --the free country??--)

First of all, America was never a free country. Joe (I don't even feel like showing respect anymore, though I have to) should really just ship the Statue of "Liberty" back to France, saying, "It never worked, France, sorry!" LIKE

BECAUSE there never WAS freedom! Civil War, because of SLAVERY, which was not freedom!
And look: America says that we're "Democratic" Yeah, if you mean the opposite! There are 100 main, rich, families that basically judge the fate of America, and what America supports. Which is so... ARGH.

If we're so democratic, then we'd be supporting Palestine! 53% of U.S. Citizens support PALESTINE, 34% supports Israel--which includes those 100 families-- and 13% is unknown.

So we're NOT democratic! Whoever says we are is lying to themselves, sorry, but it's the truth.

Also, there are many things to address.
You know all of our taxes? Yeah, they go to the roads and cities and city workers, but a LOT of it goes to Israel! It's not fair. Because of all the money they're getting they get FREE healthcare! While some Americans here are going broke and are in debt because of healthcare, or can't even access it at all!

Another thing to address: Israelis are liars. Sorry to say it, and if I'm bold to those who support them. But if you really think about it, it'll make you laugh.
The security in Israel is CRAZY. And in Palestine too. There are MULTIPLE cameras --which they're able to do because of OUR money!!--- and they say they're able to see EVERYTHING that is going on.... (TO THE POINT WHERE THEY ARE ABLE TO SEE INSIDE HOUSES AND THERE ARE EVEN CAMERAS IN BACKYARDS)

But they ALSO say that they are ONLY trying to cleanse Hamas, which is NOT true, because if they're able to see EVERYTHING, then they wouldn't be bombing everyone! Just the Hamas families!!

And everyone says that Hamas is a terrorist organization, and we all know its not, but in reality, Hamas was created in 1987 for SELF DEFENSE! FROM ISRAEL!!

I'm so mad right now. Also, I'm being very random, but there's just so much!!

Some things to remember:
1. When talking about the people supporting Palestine, say "Zionists" not "Jews" because there are TONS of Jews that were in the college campus protests against Israel! It's just a religion! Anti-Semitism should not be a thing!
2. When referring about Gaza, say "Occupied" Gaza, or "Colonized" Gaza, just to get the nail into the heads of people. Drill it in.

Thankfulness to the College Students of this generation!! <333
There's a history in America of College Students protesting and they're mostly on the right side!
There are 150+ colleges now that the students are standing up for Palestine.
Challenging the system by standing up in educational systems has an impact on politics, elections, etc;.

More to remember about colleges:
Encampments started in April, why not earlier? President of Harvard & President of UPen were being grilled by Congress and they gave neutral answers-- both came out of commission. Why were they giving this attention? Grilling people on Anti-Semitism.
While these cases were going on in Columbia University, the kids stood up against this. Columbia Univ. was supporting Israel, and student's didn't want their money and education supporting Israel.

Shafeeq (from Columbia Univ.) needed to stick to her words against anti-semitism. A bunch of students got arrested from the pressures of Zionists, and here are some things about this:
1. Many other campuses followed suit.
2. It showed the youth are not lazy & selfish, they are aware & courageous; educated and taking action.
3. They were against the fact that financially their universities were completely invested in businesses in support of Israel.
4. They sacrificed themselves by risking final exams, school, admissions, being blacklisted from jobs, and even life for this.

Emcampments: The youth were organized, and really were taking action. They had medic camps, liaisons, arts and creating, drafting demands, yoga and self care, knowledge in political engagement,
it takes a lot of organizations, providing meals, (ex. 150 students - thousands of dollars per meal), buying supplies for posters, etc;.

Asna Tabassum (her mom worked in my school!!) actually did a minor in resistance to genocide yet she couldn't even talk (though she was valedictorian)-- because the school taught them about that stuff, but they said no, "safety protocols" but Allah SWT (God) gave her an international platform, Ma Sha Allah (for Muslims!!!)

Do your best. Work as hard as these students.
Read, educate yourself on the situation.

Haneefah wrote: "I also want to add a couple things that make me so mad. (That involves Israel's alliance with America --the free country??--)

First of all, America was never a free country. Joe (I don't even fee..."

Thank you, Haneefah.

Haneefah wrote: "I also want to add a couple things that make me so mad. (That involves Israel's alliance with America --the free country??--)

First of all, America was never a free country. Joe (I don't even fee..."

You dropped this 👑

Haneefah wrote: "I also want to add a couple things that make me so mad. (That involves Israel's alliance with America --the free country??--)

First of all, America was never a free country. Joe (I don't even fee..."

wow
lets be friends

palestine 100% its where im from <33

Haneefah wrote: "I also want to add a couple things that make me so mad. (That involves Israel's alliance with America --the free country??--)

First of all, America was never a free country. Joe (I don't even fee..."

oh i like you.

Rae (Jurdan's Version) wrote: "palestine 100% its where im from <33"

#FreePalestine

Haneefah wrote: "I also want to add a couple things that make me so mad. (That involves Israel's alliance with America --the free country??--)

First of all, America was never a free country. Joe (I don't even fee..."

Wow thanks i never knew have that stuff im trying to educatyseld

Haneefah wrote: "I also want to add a couple things that make me so mad. (That involves Israel's alliance with America --the free country??--)

First of all, America was never a free country. Joe (I don't even fee..."

You go girl!

Oh, well, it looks like Link voted on this. ☠️ L.O.L. I didn't even see him pop up.

But being pro-Palestine is winning, y'all!! 🥳 🥳 🥳

🫐ava 🫐 wrote: "Haneefah wrote: "I also want to add a couple things that make me so mad. (That involves Israel's alliance with America --the free country??--)

First of all, America was never a free country. Joe ..."

If you have questions, please do ask in the questions/doubts topic. I think everyone misunderstood what you were saying and thats why it got heated, so I'm sorry

Nour (semi-hiatus ~ FREE PALESTINE) wrote: "invite your friends to this so you know where they stand "

Nour, it's not working. It says I've reached the end of a sidewalk. Maybe something in the link got messed up.

Haneefah wrote: "Nour (semi-hiatus ~ FREE PALESTINE) wrote: "invite your friends to this so you know where they stand "

Nour, it's not working. It says I've reached the end of a sidewalk. Maybe something in the li..."

That's really weird; it worked for me...

....um
idk?

ellie (pippin’s version) (free palestine) wrote: "bella ♡ ♡ wrote: "guys tbh let’s remember that palestine attacked israel first 😬😬 (i’m neutral but i’m just stating the facts)"

Go read the list of attacks in the earlier comments <33"

okay, i see. thank you!!

Haneefah wrote: "I also want to add a couple things that make me so mad. (That involves Israel's alliance with America --the free country??--)

First of all, America was never a free country. Joe (I don't even fee..."

ilysm for this can we be friends

bella ♡ ♡ wrote: "ellie (pippin’s version) (free palestine) wrote: "bella ♡ ♡ wrote: "guys tbh let’s remember that palestine attacked israel first 😬😬 (i’m neutral but i’m just stating the facts)"

Go read the list o..."

i didn’t realize ppl had already replied 😭 sorry for clogging your notifications

omg thank you for all this info nour!! i actually saw a sad tik tok abt this and i started donating to some of the family’s. i wish i could do more but im just in highschool without a consistent job. this is incredibly sad 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

this is so horrible. i hate this. why on earth someone have to kill thousands of people just for fun? what for? they are humans, they have homes, families, kids to feed. and so many children have lost their parents, they’re completely alone. it’s so terrible. is this the world we wanna live in? that’s is not right, that is so wrong. israel is killing palestines just for disposal. think about the people who have lost everything. their family, home, friends and property. don’t be silent about this, this is something what people have to talk about. this infringe all the laws of humanity. i’m so sorry that you have to experience this. i wanna help every one of them. why can’t we live at peace side my side? this has to end. this is not okay at all. i’m sending so much hugs & love for all of you 🤍 i’m so sorry.

Marcie wrote: "Goodreads is not the place to talk politics"

oh so basic fucking human rights are politics now? good to know.

bella ♡ ♡ wrote: "guys tbh let’s remember that palestine attacked israel first 😬😬 (i’m neutral but i’m just stating the facts)"

sure hamas attacked first on October 7th but do you not understand that this has been going on for 75 years (even more)?? this did NOT start on October 7th

Marcie wrote: "Goodreads is not the place to talk politics"

I disagree. Politics dictates whatever happens in our world. So we should be talking about political issues, unless you don't live in this world and live in the Metaverse.

🫐ava 🫐 wrote: "Can we not just be a happy book community this is what goodreads is for"
Goodreads is for community and I'm sure talking about a genocide won't hurt anyone

izzy (less active rn) wrote: "omg thank you for all this info nour!! i actually saw a sad tik tok abt this and i started donating to some of the family’s. i wish i could do more but im just in highschool without a consistent jo..."

izzy thats amazing and I’m so proud of you <3

little shooting star 💫 (semi-hiatus) wrote: "this is so horrible. i hate this. why on earth someone have to kill thousands of people just for fun? what for? they are humans, they have homes, families, kids to feed. and so many children have l..."

<33

there is a lot of nonsense in these comments, but all i will say for the ones saying not to bring politics into good reads, is this politics? to be a decent human being and care abt palestinians is being political? if u think so, ur insane and please unfriend me or get far away from my account. Whats happening in palestine is not politics but a gruesome genocide. Women, men, children, babies and even unborn babies are living in danger every single second, u dont need to understand politics to care about palestinian lives, you just need to be a decent human being. As a palestinian its feel so insane to see these people trying to deny the genocide or use excuses as “goodreads shouldnt involve such topics”, bro just say that ur a zionist who supports the death of innocent palestinian people JUST because they are palestinian. no matter what religion, what color, what gender, palestinians are getting killed for absolutely no reason.
Palestine will be free 🇵🇸

Marcie wrote: "Goodreads is not the place to talk politics"

and what about the political books on goodreads ? y’all really think goodreads resumes to your romance books and basta ? GROW UP.

Lilyya wrote: "Marcie wrote: "Goodreads is not the place to talk politics"

and what about the political books on goodreads ? y’all really think goodreads resumes to your romance books and basta ? GROW UP."

OMG AMAZING POINT

Ira ｡⁠♡ wrote: "🫐ava 🫐 wrote: "Can we not just be a happy book community this is what goodreads is for"
Goodreads is for community and I'm sure talking about a genocide won't hurt anyone"

ok I take it back now everyone can stop coming for me, the mod of this group let me know I was wrong and that it was okay so maybe read the whole conversation and then come back and coment.

Marcie wrote: "Goodreads is not the place to talk politics"
i would argue and say that goodreads is the best place to talk “politics” seeing as many of the books we love and cherish are strongly based on politics.
However your comment made me question how far, as a population, we are willing to ignore and close our eyes to the atrocities surrounding us to maintain a semblance of peace and joy.
We lie to ourselves and ignore our humanity to maintain our belief in the same humanity we refuse to acknowledge within ourselves.
It is our duty to open our eyes, it’s hard and difficult to remove the shades beautifying our surroundings and see our world as it really is, but other people owe us that, moreover we owe that to ourselves.
Seeing the world as it is is the first step to doing something about its current state and maybe improving it.
Open your eyes, educate yourself, speak up about sudan and congo and palestine everywhere, breakfast, lunch, teatime, graduation party, on the bus, tiktok, instagram, goodreads… everywhere is a good place to talk politics because politics is the state of us as humans and we are human everywhere we go !

asiya | アセヤ (free palestine) wrote: "*sucks in breath*

Okay, guys. I invited EVERY SINGLE buddy (all 81 of them) that I have (who hasn't taken this poll yet), so fingers crossed that the results come out good. 😊😭

Yes, even my four a..."
THAT THE ENERGY WE LOVE AND WANT !!!!

This issue is far more complex than people take it as. I am pro the innocent civilians that got dragged into the war on both sides. I am pro the innocent people just simply trying to live being hate-crimed for being Jewish or Palestinian. I am pro the end of this war. That's it. F the politicians and terrorists on all sides. Innocent men, women and kids are being sacrificed whilst awful people are playing land grab chess.

Yousra (is a tired student) 🇵🇸 wrote: "Marcie wrote: "Goodreads is not the place to talk politics"
i would argue and say that goodreads is the best place to talk “politics” seeing as many of the books we love and cherish are strongly ba..."

yes yes yes. that is exactly right <33

Marcie wrote: "Goodreads is not the place to talk politics"

100% agree.

I think Palestine and Israel should both vouch for peace, even though this is a terrible affair, I can’t imagine how people in Israel will feel if their home is taken over or it doesn’t exist anymore, I understand that has happened to the Palestinians but two wrongs do not make a right, do they? I support Palestine but I will not be an anti-Jew or any of that because that is pure racism, perhaps I can condemn Israel’s government for this but pro-Hamas is definitely wrong too(there is nothing right with wanting to eradicate the entirety of Jews). If you are a Jew, a Christian, a Muslim, I will not treat you differently based on purely that and I think that people should just find a way to give Palestinians their land, without a terrorist leader but let Israel stay in that land too—perhaps they will not share it and will section one for the other but seeing only Israel remain or just Palestine remain is a horrid thing to see for those whose country no longer exists will suffer horrendously.

Alice wrote: "I think Palestine and Israel should both vouch for peace, even though this is a terrible affair, I can’t imagine how people in Israel will feel if their home is taken over or it doesn’t exist anymo..."

I agree to some of what you have said…
I do agree to not wanting the eradication of jew from Palestine, that just makes sense, especially for the new generations that have been born in there, however I do agree to the eradication of israel, israel is a state that represents terrorism and bloodshed, oppression, Islamophobia and racism and it will continue to represent that because that is its foundation. The 2 states solution is no option as it has been proven many of times.
Palestinians and now israelis (but in the future also Palestinians) should have equal rights (not including people who have served in the IOF, or what others call IDF, those who did should be treated as criminals, pay fines and help rebuild palestine), israelis with more than 1 estate should relinquish those to Palestinians who have lost their homes and illegal settlers (who are very violent ) should be returned to where they came from.
Israel created a “solution” to a nonexistent problem in the region, a solution that turned out to be a massive problem disguised as a solution and has and continues to harm jews more than aid them.
This is at least what I think and believe to be the best solution and the fairest to all parties.

let's stop attacking ava guys, I dont think you realized she's understood now😭