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Do you believe we are living in a computer simulation (aka the matrix)?

No
 
  286 votes 62.0%

Unsure
 
  89 votes 19.3%

Yes
 
  86 votes 18.7%

461 total votes

Poll added by: James



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message 1: by James (last edited Mar 09, 2018 02:20AM) (new)

James Morcan Are we living in a Matrix-style simulation? https://phys.org/news/2016-11-matrix-...

“A number of philosophers, futurists, and technologists have come to believe that we are living in a computer-simulated world, kind of like a real-life version of The Matrix. The so-called "simulation argument" was popularized in a 2003 paper by University of Oxford professor Nick Bostrom and has since become a high-profile topic of discussion in classrooms and conferences across the country.”

“For Elon Musk and Neil deGrasse Tyson, there's a good chance that our entire existence is a program on someone else's hard drive, that we're the playthings of our technologically advanced future descendants. "I think the likelihood may be very high," Tyson said. "We would be drooling, blithering idiots in their presence." As Musk put it, "There's a billion to one chance we're living in base reality."

Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2016-11-matrix-...


message 2: by (Alice) Aley (new)

(Alice) Aley Martin Clearly, we live in a world devoid of reason and personal responsibility. People follow trends, groyps, causes. The majority of peop!e dont read or think for themselves. There is a problem with accountabilty and lack of integrity. The dumbing down of society has left us like cogs in a wheel, or brains in a vat. There is a reliance on the opinions of foolish others and demi strate a lack of agency for elders, babies and the poor. Shifting political memes and safety issues are rampant, as well as violence and lack of proper mental healthcare. We have allowed ourselves to be pawns in the game of life, not realizing we are the creators of our own reality, and many of us live in and identify with a different vibrational universe than others do. This does not make us better than them, only more open minded and aware.


message 3: by James (last edited Mar 09, 2018 02:29AM) (new)

James Morcan This was a great book I read on the philosophical themes explored in The Matrix trilogy of films (the book covers everything from AI sentience, metaphysics, quantum physics, Taoism and especially Hinduism - the Indian religion which thousands of years ago mentioned how this world is illusory and unreal "Maya"):

Like a Splinter in Your Mind

Like a Splinter in Your Mind by Matt Lawrence

Also like this 2 minute stand-up excerpt from the late great comedian Bill Hicks where he says this world is "Just A Ride" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgzQu...


message 4: by Björn (last edited Mar 09, 2018 05:44AM) (new)

Björn Slettemark Define computer?
If you mean computer simulation like the computer we have today?
Not likely.
If you mean computer as a system of matrices with simple binary operations making up a whole, and we pilot a vessel through this matrix then yes. This can be experientially true if you follow the buddhist tradition of the path of negation. What remains when you define everything you are not?


message 5: by David (new)

David Smith I have always seen the Matrix as a representation of the electronic propaganda deluge (Left and Right) we face each day. Reality is based on what one is told, so we do live in the electronic Matrix. It will be up to each individual to break away from the deluge and find true enlightenment.


message 6: by Daniel (new)

Daniel If you are a good reader and truth seeker, I'd recommend "My Big TOE" by Thomas Campbell. In my opinion this is, by far, the most serious attempt so far to a rational explanation of reality.
Note: TOE stands by Theory Of Everything.


message 7: by Donna (new)

Donna Haworth I believe it is highly likely and makes more sense than most everything I've heard so far.


message 8: by James (new)

James Morcan This poll was inspired by this epic discussion thread in the group: Could the matrix be real? https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


message 9: by James (last edited Mar 09, 2018 12:20PM) (new)

James Morcan Björn wrote: "Define computer?
If you mean computer simulation like the computer we have today?
Not likely.
If you mean computer as a system of matrices with simple binary operations making up a whole, and we pilot a vessel through this matrix then yes. This can be experientially true if you follow the buddhist tradition of the path of negation. What remains when you define everything you are not? ..."


Björn, after I worded this poll and people began voting already I actually thought of what you are getting at here...Polls like this are difficult to word and possibly the off-the-top-of-my-head wording chosen might've been a bit limiting...I guess I meant a matrix of any kind, whether some super computer designed system, whether an "organic computer", or whether a naturally occurring matrix that is still however not reality but rather illusory or "Maya" like those Ancient Indian scriptures in Hinduism and Yoga say - or even what they say in children's nursery rhymes, like "row row row your boat, gently down the stream. Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream."

In the film The Matrix, Keanu Reeves' character wakes up in another body outside of the matrix which is stated or heavily implied to be his real self...

I guess there's also a metaphorical interpretation of The Matrix rather than the literal one. So if you take the film literally, then it seems to be implying we are in some kind of man-made or alien-made techno super world purposefully designed to enslave us and trick us to think it's all real. However, the metaphorical interpretation would be that it is still a matrix but it's not technology based, but some kind of organically developed world of amnesia where everyone is kinda dreaming reality and there are every so often glitches like deja vu or things like that which confirm we are asleep and dreaming... So it's possible the filmmakers behind The Matrix just used all the technology as a plot device to create stunning visuals etc and that they actually believe the Hindu version of this world being all Maya/illusory...

The plot thickens!


message 10: by [deleted user] (last edited Mar 10, 2018 04:39AM) (new)

If we are it needs a reboot as its just breaking down writing silly code and even more stupid plots.


message 12: by M (new)

M Was the Matric that movie where those two stoners got stuck inside the dome? Yeah, I think about that all the time actually.


message 13: by QContinuum (last edited Mar 10, 2018 10:30AM) (new)

QContinuum Everything for the next 30 years is determined by the matrix which works like a subconscious. It determines every aspect of the physical 3 dimensional universe and only exist in the fourth dimension. The only way to relate to seeing an interpretation of future events is to have out of body experiences.


message 14: by Rob (new)

Rob Williams I voted no on this one, but only if the movie is really taken literally. Like a lot of science fiction there is symbolism and commentary on things about the present that are real. To a large extent people are perceiving only the parts of reality that are handed to them by the mainstream media or other authority figures and they're not questioning enough. So I think even if the red pill and blue pill don't literally exist, they are symbolic of two different approaches I see people taking.


message 15: by WILLIAM (new)

WILLIAM George Bryant PHD If you have ever read the book the keys of Enoch, in it J.J. Hurtak states that we live in a hologram within a super hologram created by lord Metatron . He exhibits a very convincing case for this scenario.


message 16: by Donna (last edited Mar 11, 2018 10:28PM) (new)

Donna Haworth When looking to discover there are smaller and smaller things and bigger and bigger things. Yet here we are in a reality of our own, sharing a greater reality with others in a bigger reality and on it goes bigger and bigger and smaller and smaller. Who knows the source, the true meaning, the control. Just the moment of interpretation of the illusion, the expansion of consciousness, the contraction of disbelief. The peace of surrender. The fear of nothingness. The weight of cognition.


message 17: by WILLIAM (new)

WILLIAM George Bryant PHD Donna wrote: "When looking to discover there are smaller and smaller things and bigger and bigger things. Yet here we are in a reality of our own, sharing a greater reality with others in a bigger reality and on..."

I think that your assessment of this question is directly on point.


message 18: by Viktoriya (last edited Mar 13, 2018 02:06AM) (new)

Viktoriya Padurya James wrote: "Are we living in a Matrix-style simulation? https://phys.org/news/2016-11-matrix-...

“A number of philosophers, futurists, and technologists have come to believe that we are ..."



Wow ! What a coincidence ! I was searching similar answers while analyzing from movie “Matrix” Maybe whole Universe is “a living órganism “ and this things we call “the matrix “ .. we never know !


message 19: by Sarah (new)

Sarah Baker I think that if we were living in a matrix that it would be pretty advanced to hold everyone. So, I think if we were then it would be controlled, mostly, by an AI. Just because what if the people outside fixing everyone, couldn't reproduce or continue existing for some reason? Maybe we could be in a matrix for an alien culture where theres no need to reproduce. And if we were in a matrix then for what purpose exactly? Maybe to just gather information, or answer interaction questions? And if so, are we the next generations. Or were we included at a young age where we wouldn't even remember being plugged in, to say. Wouldn't the first people, if this was run by a human, have given a consent or have some remembrance of it. Or is it so advanced that we all, chose to forget giving our consent. Also, if we all chose to forget giving our consent to being plugged in, then couldn't it be a rogue operation. Where the consent isn't considered because it's just forgotten anyways? And if it was run by humans, and they died, would the machine or whatever we're all supposed to be stationary in, able to sustain us for a lifetime which we signed up for? Or will we die. Technically since we're questioning whether we live in a matrix and we are indeed inside of one then it has to faulty. Because not all of us remember being plugged in. Even tho if earlier generations were plugged in and kids had no questions earlier on then there were people/aliens/something/someone/AI keeping a good enough eye on things that no one questioned it. But technically how can we doubt the system now if we weren't the earlier generations? Unless those people who are curious weren't plugged in right? Are they then destined to die because they might not be sustainable?


message 20: by Danail (new)

Danail Hristov We created the artificial world and we live in it and we are fatally dependent on it. This is a fact that does not need faith.


message 21: by Raven (new)

Raven I'm golf the believe that we are all on our own construct. We see things differently, we hear things differently, we love differently. We are all subjects to put our Constructs. God help is if I be ES a reality, for then er will have no thoughts of our own
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message 22: by Edward (new)

Edward Chalk I.e. have we become plastic people?

Probably, to a large extent, judging by the number of people walking down the pavement looking at their smartphones.

As long as a personal authentic response is not commercially rewarded, it will be discouraged.

Computers are not necessarily responsible for our departure from reality, but they certainly facilitate the process.


message 23: by Raven (new)

Raven I believe there is already to much sorrow & conflict in the word, both personally and on a global scale, to have the absolute buffoonery created by a "Matrix" (computer simulation) to cause all of today's strategies. In the famous words of "The Architect", people couldn't be relied upon to comply if the simulation was too perfect." So yes, he created some chaotic events, but not even an A.I. Could introduce this much harm to the world & still expect to exist w/o a huge protest, movement, and/or fights while hoping to subsist on the humans body like a battery. Suicides up, mass shooting on a scale we've never seen, uprisings on any number of topics ; all their energy would drain away.


message 24: by Crissie (new)

Crissie Nah! No way this can be mere figments of our imagination but appear virtually identical to everyone that some mortal man created or simulated by computerized software!


message 25: by Michael (new)

Michael I don't think we have the ability to know if we are, or are not a part of a simulation. How could we? If we're not part of a simulation there would likely be no evidence of a simulation. unless the stimulation intentionally includes information that says something to the effect "Yaaay! You've progressed to the point of figuring out you are a part of a simulation of a universe." That would be rather interesting wouldn't it?


message 26: by Andy Blank (new)

Andy Blank Does it even matter? Our reality exists as a metaphysical primary. To us. To deny it is the equivalent of suicide; no one could meet the requirements of survival, in this reality, and be loyal to the belief that they don't exist. Usually the denial of this reality is a cheap trick used by philosophers or priests since the dawn of time to convince us that only a chosen few have "access" to true, superior, reality. Not surprised cronies like Musk endorse it.


message 27: by James (new)

James Morcan Really good little doco this one that gets you wondering what the likes of Elon Musk might know (or more likely, have been "told" in the circles he's mixing in) about research (including possibly classified research) that reveals indications that we are living in a computer simulation...As I still find it odd that Musk said "there is a one in a billion chance" that we are not living inside a simulation of some kind...

Watch "What If the Earth Does Not Exist?" on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CyN8...


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