Flatland: I'm not claiming knowledge of metaphysics, just knowledge of science. Science has made the gods gratuitous.
Socrates: And therefore they do not exist? How could you know
that, unless you also know that whatever is gratuitous does not exist? But surely that is not only a thing you cannot know, it is also a thing that is not true. Many gratituous things exist, such as grace, or beauty, or generosity, or excess facial hair, or perhaps this very argument.