While both rejected the wealth of the papacy and embraced poverty, the Waldensians also rejected pilgrimage as ‘just a way of spending money’ and said that relics were no different from any other bones. They did allow their followers to eat meat, but more extreme Waldensians are reported to have suggested the priesthood was depraved, declared the papacy the anti-Christ, and rejected transubstantiation – the transformation of the bread and wine of the Eucharist into the body and blood of Christ.