But before you can create order, you have to make a mess.” “I’m following.” “That’s what painting is like for me. Inevitably, there’s a moment when I’ve pulled everything out of me, and it’s just … it’s chaos on canvas. I feel like I should never have started. But then I keep going, and somehow things find their order. I know when I’ve finished because I feel … I feel this click that means everything’s in its place. It’s all where it should be. Total peace.” “How long does that last?” “Maybe seven-point-five seconds. And then I start thinking about the next piece.” “Sounds exhausting,” said
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