Like everyone else who had watched it on television, Ailes had seen how Nixon had bombed in his debate against John F. Kennedy in 1960. For people listening to the debate on the radio, it wasn’t clear who won, but to people watching it on TV, the loser was painfully obvious.
What’s interesting to me about this though is that I thought Trump came off *horribly* in televised debates, most especially the Megyn Kelly one and the one where he apparently hoped to give Biden Covid. But people who liked trump did not see what I saw; they thought he was great.