Sarah and Hogan called me into her office to ask if I was pursuing the job. I let them know that if it was offered to me, I would have to seriously consider it. Hogan said he obviously would be honored to have the job, but if it wasn’t him, he’d want it to be me—and I said I felt the same. Sarah let us know that she was supportive of both of us. Looking back, that was probably the most adult and professional meeting I ever attended in my four years at the White House.

