Advocates of peace like Suttner worried from time to time that humanizing warfare would rule out its elimination. And the sniping back and forth between proponents of the two goals was far more open and vivid before World War II than in any era since. The truth was, though, that the peace movement need not have worried, since for all its failures the cause of making war more humane was faring worse. Humane war did not get off the ground, so it could not yet threaten peace.