were in Breckenridge, that’s the time where I really experienced that closeness with others. When you become a public person, the closeness is hard to find because a lot of times people want something from you. But that period was relaxed, it was fun, my professional success was around the corner. In some ways, looking back, it’s like I had a hunch it was coming. Anyway—you were my entrée into the Octagon, obviously.
